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The Biggest Mistake Ainge Made
« on: August 06, 2011, 06:06:34 AM »

Offline chenaren

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I think the biggest mistake Ainge made was not resigning Tony Allen last summer.

If Ainge hadn't let him go, we would get no reason to trade Perk for a backup wing player. Tony Allen, who is arguably the best defensive guard in the league (which many of us didn't realize before), would make a tremendous difference in the Heat series. And we still got a legitimate starting center who can set solid screen and play defense.

It could be all different.

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Re: The Biggest Mistake Ainge Made
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2011, 06:19:46 AM »

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Stop living in the past and move on. It's not gonna help discussing what he did wrong, but what he could do to improve this team. Yeah losing Tony Allen was hard to take and trading Perkins was a shock. But, I understand that this is a business and I support Ainge in whatever he does even if I don't agree with it.

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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2011, 09:15:24 AM »

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I agree TA looked great at times and I think he had a very good year at Memphis, BUT TA was here for something like 5 years and in 5 years I saw more bonehead plays, injuries, etc than any C I have ever seen.  I would've like to have kept TA but at #6 money?  Nah...maybe #10 money.

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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2011, 01:28:47 PM »

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I agree TA looked great at times and I think he had a very good year at Memphis, BUT TA was here for something like 5 years and in 5 years I saw more bonehead plays, injuries, etc than any C I have ever seen.  I would've like to have kept TA but at #6 money?  Nah...maybe #10 money.


Thats the point though...tony isnt making #6 money.

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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2011, 01:36:27 PM »

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That was a huge mistake, but not as big as giving away Perk.

I don't think Danny was wrong to not give him that 3rd year, but I would've liked to see him offer a 2yr 12mil deal.  He probably would've taken the same money for 1 less year.
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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2011, 03:51:35 PM »

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Stop living in the past and move on. It's not gonna help discussing what he did wrong, but what he could do to improve this team. Yeah losing Tony Allen was hard to take and trading Perkins was a shock. But, I understand that this is a business and I support Ainge in whatever he does even if I don't agree with it.
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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2011, 04:58:22 PM »

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Nothing TA did the season surprised me. The fact that he struggled to secure the starting spot in Memphis shows how reluctant people are to give him major minutes and yet that is what he needs to be effective. He was never going to get that here. Danny did the right thing by letting him go. Not for the C's maybe; but for TA it was the right thing to do.


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« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2011, 05:13:26 PM »

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Not signing Tony turned out to be a pretty big mistake, although I wasn't up in arms about it at the time.

His worst mistake, though?  Nah.  His worst mistake was probably the Antoine-for-an-already-injured-Raef deal, or drafting Marcus Banks.


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To be honest I dont think this is living on the past
this is state a honest oppinion and is watching history how mistakes are not made again
I am not as high as some on tony and i still think hes a turnover or horrible foul machine when it counts
but he give great effort and some scoring and helps PP and Ray rest even ROndo from time to time
so yes hes valuable
With a healthy delonte hes somehow redundant
so delonte being a better " team player" yes i said that
I think i understand Danys logic
Of course With Daniels out, his fault is magnified too.

Its true that if thats past thats history but next time is better to be overstackedd than to trust and unknown Wafer

When you have a champion you try to keep the core, of course with PJ and Sam ou that becomes a little tough, with KGs injury somehow window reduces because rondos emerging and BBD mirage wasnt enough of course to cover for him

This year there were some very good moves, and thousand of injuries to ruin them.

For some period as usual in this era we were NBAs best team, but our depth ruins again and once more we were on BBDs hand to black holeus out of competition.

For a period we play with 7 healthy guys, hangovery included.
An NBA team wont win with that depth
then the moves came and somehow they worked but its tough to make a rotation with that little time
then shak
year over
Soooooo


Its toung to say what its going to happend we need moves and we need FA bigs to help
we need to get rid of BBD and get some really good help at big wings

Still a lot of time to go but IMHO the big 4 still have some AMMO under their sweatbands


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« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2011, 05:31:59 PM »

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Not signing Tony turned out to be a pretty big mistake, although I wasn't up in arms about it at the time.

His worst mistake, though?  Nah.  His worst mistake was probably the Antoine-for-an-already-injured-Raef deal, or drafting Marcus Banks.

Haha, I was clicking on this thread to comment about Toine for Raef. Thank you very much Roy for bringing up Danny's most obvious mistake in trading a team friendly contract for what could be the most undeserving contract in NBA history. I understand that I need not to live in the past, but it was quite obvious when the trade was made and it played out worse than I even thought it would. Sure, Raef was turned into Theo, who was part of the Ray deal, but that deal put us in the tank for years.

I didn't have a whole lot of respect for Danny back then (and I was an Antoine-lover), but it's hard not to trust in him nowadays.

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« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2011, 07:00:36 PM »

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Not signing Tony turned out to be a pretty big mistake, although I wasn't up in arms about it at the time.

His worst mistake, though?  Nah.  His worst mistake was probably the Antoine-for-an-already-injured-Raef deal, or drafting Marcus Banks.

Raef and a 7th to the Blazers for Telfair and an injured Ratliff was bad too, but the money that was Toine to Raef to Theo was used to aquire KG and it couldn't have happened without it. So it really makes it all worth it right?

The Blount contract and the moves made in the summer following the championship stick out most to me; Not resigning Posey and failing to bring in anyone that could help. KG's injury didn't help.

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« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2011, 07:17:47 PM »

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I think the biggest mistake Ainge made was not resigning Tony Allen last summer.

If Ainge hadn't let him go, we would get no reason to trade Perk for a backup wing player. Tony Allen, who is arguably the best defensive guard in the league (which many of us didn't realize before), would make a tremendous difference in the Heat series. And we still got a legitimate starting center who can set solid screen and play defense.

It could be all different.



Perk would have been traded whether we kept Tony or not.  Danny knew the kind of money Perk was going to want was not the kind of money he'd be willing to give him.  Danny wanted to get some kind of piece for the future.
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I think the biggest mistake Ainge made was not resigning Tony Allen last summer.

If Ainge hadn't let him go, we would get no reason to trade Perk for a backup wing player. Tony Allen, who is arguably the best defensive guard in the league (which many of us didn't realize before), would make a tremendous difference in the Heat series. And we still got a legitimate starting center who can set solid screen and play defense.

It could be all different.



Perk would have been traded whether we kept Tony or not.  Danny knew the kind of money Perk was going to want was not the kind of money he'd be willing to give him.  Danny wanted to get some kind of piece for the future.

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« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2011, 08:29:21 PM »

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Ainge can't really win with the perkins trade..he either lets perk walk and gets nothing in return orhe hindered the team for the future offering a role player who is an offensive liability a big$ long term contract...fans would still be angry..

People on here want to say owners shouldn't overpay stars like joe johnson. And then want ainge to overpay for roleplayers