Could Rondo be the MVP?

[moiso]

He's a top 5 point guard, not a top 5 player.

[nickagneta]

I started this exact same thread after 10 games or so of last year.

I was wrong.

He's just not offensively minded enough to score to win an MVP and no MVP ever shot less than 60% from the line and was shorter than 6'2". And it never will happen, IMHO.

[chambers]

With his current skillset, he could be in the race, but never a true contender.
If he improves his jump shooting+free throws (and thus point production) he could be a serious contender.
He ticks all the boxes except scoring.
He is essentially like Chris Paul but he has more assists instead of points and plays better defense.

If he could run a pick and roll like CP3 he would be unstoppable.
He'll never be an MVP until he starts hitting a jump shot and averages at least 20ppg.

[slamtheking]

It's possible if the following happens:
- he becomes the guy that the team looks to make the final play in a close game.
- he develops a respectable jumper to 18-20 feet.
- he becomes a solid FT shooter around 80% where other teams have no incentive to play hack-a-Rondo.

MVP's are people that their teams look to in crunch time.  Rondo isn't that guy yet.  He doesn't have to be a big scorer but he can't be a liability on the floor where his man can ignore him on D.

Other than that, he's definitely got the rest of the tools to be MVP

[JSD]

I started this exact same thread after 10 games or so of last year.

I was wrong.

He's just not offensively minded enough to score to win an MVP and no MVP ever shot less than 60% from the line and was shorter than 6'2". And it never will happen, IMHO.

I agree

[CelticG1]

I started this exact same thread after 10 games or so of last year.

I was wrong.

He's just not offensively minded enough to score to win an MVP and no MVP ever shot less than 60% from the line and was shorter than 6'2". And it never will happen, IMHO.

I agree

You could also say no NBA player has ever shot less than 60% from the line and was shorter than 6'2".

In all seriousness though Rondo could be the MVP someday but he has a long,long,long way to go. It's laughable to think he could be next year. He might be in the conversation the next couple years (top 10) but that's mainly because of team success than him. You could have made the case that any of the Big 4 last year were the MVP of the team. Rondo certainly wasn't a cut above everyone else

[pearljammer10]

Nope.


Not unless he develops a more respectable jump shot and his scoring jumps to the near 20 point a game range. 


That's what he needs to do to get himself on the hype list through out the season. 


Be both exciting and a scorer.  The media loves the scorers. 

Yeah the league and the media loves a player that can score the ball. iF Rondos averaging around 10 to 11 points a game, even with 12 assists and 2.5 steals a game or whatever he wont be rewarded with an MVP.

[wdleehi]

Nope.


Not unless he develops a more respectable jump shot and his scoring jumps to the near 20 point a game range. 


That's what he needs to do to get himself on the hype list through out the season. 


Be both exciting and a scorer.  The media loves the scorers. 

Yeah the league and the media loves a player that can score the ball. iF Rondos averaging around 10 to 11 points a game, even with 12 assists and 2.5 steals a game or whatever he wont be rewarded with an MVP.

Yep.


All we have to do is look at the Kidd years with the Nets where he dragged that team to the finals. 

[OsirusCeltics]

Bill Russell wasn't filling the stat sheet with points. Never averaged over 20 ppg... but he has 5 MVPs

[wdleehi]

Bill Russell wasn't filling the stat sheet with points. Never averaged over 20 ppg... but he has 5 MVPs

11 titles.  Best player. 


Less media hype those days. 

[nickagneta]

Bill Russell wasn't filling the stat sheet with points. Never averaged over 20 ppg... but he has 5 MVPs

But he was averaging 16-18 PPG, over 20 rebounds per game, was the best defensive player in the league and it wasn't close and Boston beat writers used to count his blocked shots because they weren't an official stat and some claim he was averaging over 10 blocks a game. Almost no one in the league has ever tried to say that that claim is invalid.

If Rondo could average 15 PPG, dish out 15 assists per game and average 10 steals a game without being a good shooter or making 60% on his FTs, I am sure he would be MVP, but that's not going to happen.

[Fafnir]

Bill Russell wasn't filling the stat sheet with points. Never averaged over 20 ppg... but he has 5 MVPs

But he was averaging 16-18 PPG, over 20 rebounds per game, was the best defensive player in the league and it wasn't close and Boston beat writers used to count his blocked shots because they weren't an official stat and some claim he was averaging over 10 blocks a game. Almost no one in the league has ever tried to say that that claim is invalid.

If Rondo could average 15 PPG, dish out 15 assists per game and average 10 steals a game without being a good shooter or making 60% on his FTs, I am sure he would be MVP, but that's not going to happen.

I think he'd need to score more, scorers dominate the MVP voting.

The only time the MVP hasn't been a high PPG guy is Nash? Maybe Duncan's? I can't recall how many PPG he was putting up.

[Fafnir]

Bill Russell wasn't filling the stat sheet with points. Never averaged over 20 ppg... but he has 5 MVPs

In Russell's day the players determined the MVP.

From the wiki of NBA MVP:

Until the 1979–80 NBA season, the MVP was originally selected by a vote of NBA players

[pearljammer10]

Bill Russell wasn't filling the stat sheet with points. Never averaged over 20 ppg... but he has 5 MVPs

But he was averaging 16-18 PPG, over 20 rebounds per game, was the best defensive player in the league and it wasn't close and Boston beat writers used to count his blocked shots because they weren't an official stat and some claim he was averaging over 10 blocks a game. Almost no one in the league has ever tried to say that that claim is invalid.

If Rondo could average 15 PPG, dish out 15 assists per game and average 10 steals a game without being a good shooter or making 60% on his FTs, I am sure he would be MVP, but that's not going to happen.

I think he'd need to score more, scorers dominate the MVP voting.

The only time the MVP hasn't been a high PPG guy is Nash? Maybe Duncan's? I can't recall how many PPG he was putting up.

Even so I think Nash was putting up 17 to 18 points a game along with his 10+ assists per game in those years from what I recall.

[Fafnir]

Bill Russell wasn't filling the stat sheet with points. Never averaged over 20 ppg... but he has 5 MVPs

But he was averaging 16-18 PPG, over 20 rebounds per game, was the best defensive player in the league and it wasn't close and Boston beat writers used to count his blocked shots because they weren't an official stat and some claim he was averaging over 10 blocks a game. Almost no one in the league has ever tried to say that that claim is invalid.

If Rondo could average 15 PPG, dish out 15 assists per game and average 10 steals a game without being a good shooter or making 60% on his FTs, I am sure he would be MVP, but that's not going to happen.

I think he'd need to score more, scorers dominate the MVP voting.

The only time the MVP hasn't been a high PPG guy is Nash? Maybe Duncan's? I can't recall how many PPG he was putting up.

Even so I think Nash was putting up 17 to 18 points a game along with his 10+ assists per game in those years from what I recall.

His first MVP had 15.5 PPG and 18.8 PPG for the second both are probably the lowest for an MVP since Russell....