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KG or Tim Duncan?
« on: July 10, 2011, 11:46:16 PM »

Offline syfy9

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In 2007, if Danny had a choice of whether to pick KG or Tim Duncan to add to the Celtics at the time, who would you rather have had in green? Do you think we'd be better off with KG or Duncan?

To me, personally, I prefer Garnett because of his intensity playing and the soul he brings to the team. Duncan is a better choice on the offensive side, and I'd imagine he'd convert more offensively with Rondo's help. In terms of D, they are about the same caliber except I don't see Tim screaming like a mad man and banging his head on things.
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2011, 12:00:38 AM »

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Quote from: syfy9 on July 10, 2011, 11:46:16 PM
In 2007, if Danny had a choice of whether to pick KG or Tim Duncan to add to the Celtics at the time, who would you rather have had in green? Do you think we'd be better off with KG or Duncan?

To me, personally, I prefer Garnett because of his intensity playing and the soul he brings to the team. Duncan is a better choice on the offensive side, and I'd imagine he'd convert more offensively with Rondo's help. In terms of D, they are about the same caliber except I don't see Tim screaming like a mad man and banging his head on things.

KG!!!! Timmy is not the perimeter defender KG is. Also remember in 2008 how Gasol killed Duncan in the WCF and then KG killed him in the Finals? KG > TD at defense.
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2011, 12:05:31 AM »

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In 2007, fresh off of Duncan leading San An to the title, I would have picked Tim Duncan over KG but it would have been the wrong choice.

Kevin Garnett has aged much better than Timmy and has been the more effective player over the last couple of seasons.
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KG, because I think he fits better with our team, and has a bit less wear and tear on him.  Hard to go wrong with either in '08, though.
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2011, 12:51:22 AM »

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Quote from: Who on July 11, 2011, 12:05:31 AM
Kevin Garnett has aged much better than Timmy and has been the more effective player over the last couple of seasons.

But shouldn't that be because of the development of Rondo/ KG was given easier looks?
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2011, 12:53:24 AM »

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Quote from: syfy9 on July 11, 2011, 12:51:22 AM
Quote from: Who on July 11, 2011, 12:05:31 AM
Kevin Garnett has aged much better than Timmy and has been the more effective player over the last couple of seasons.

But shouldn't that be because of the development of Rondo/ KG was given easier looks?


Not like Tony Parker can't deliver the ball to a guy.
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2011, 01:46:33 AM »

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Quote from: syfy9 on July 11, 2011, 12:51:22 AM
Quote from: Who on July 11, 2011, 12:05:31 AM
Kevin Garnett has aged much better than Timmy and has been the more effective player over the last couple of seasons.

But shouldn't that be because of the development of Rondo/ KG was given easier looks?

I think it's more due to the fact that KG hasn't had to carry the Celtics the past few years the way Timmy's been expected to carry the Spurs (except for last year, when Manu took over the task).
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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2011, 01:49:18 AM »

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If it was a fantasy draft I'd probably go with Timmy, but for this Celtics team, I'd stay with KG ... I think he just fits better with this group than Duncan would, but it's a real tough call.
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2011, 06:06:25 AM »

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A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush and all of that, but I do think we would have won more with Duncan. I think we would have won with him in 2008, and probably in 2009, as well. KG's injury really hurt.
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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2011, 06:20:09 AM »

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At that time, I probably would have liked Duncan. The guy was coming off another 20-10 season, with a title an All NBA First Team pick. It would have been wrong though. There's no way we win all those hard fought series without unbelievable defense, that Duncan cannot give.
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2011, 08:37:04 AM »

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Last season Duncan looked all but done, other then that always been Duncan
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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2011, 08:39:25 AM »

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Quote from: Who on July 11, 2011, 12:05:31 AM
In 2007, fresh off of Duncan leading San An to the title, I would have picked Tim Duncan over KG but it would have been the wrong choice.

Kevin Garnett has aged much better than Timmy and has been the more effective player over the last couple of seasons.

Thats actually a ridicoulous concept...KG missed half a season and all of the playoffs the year we were trying to repeat (never happened to duncan) and was a shell of himself all the next season...Last year Duncan looked done and KG had a bit of a bounce back year, i guess that must be what ur basing that off of
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Quote from: scaryjerry on July 11, 2011, 08:39:25 AM
Quote from: Who on July 11, 2011, 12:05:31 AM
In 2007, fresh off of Duncan leading San An to the title, I would have picked Tim Duncan over KG but it would have been the wrong choice.

Kevin Garnett has aged much better than Timmy and has been the more effective player over the last couple of seasons.

Thats actually a ridicoulous concept...KG missed half a season and all of the playoffs the year we were trying to repeat (never happened to duncan) and was a shell of himself all the next season...Last year Duncan looked done and KG had a bit of a bounce back year, i guess that must be what ur basing that off of
I was also confused by that statement.  Duncan has been significantly better then Garnett in every season except last year and it hasn't really been close.  Not only has he played more games, he played more minutes per game, was more efficient, and had better totals.  Now some of that certainly could have been as a result of their respective roles, but the numbers don't lie.
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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2011, 10:14:32 AM »

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Duncan.  I think we still would have won in 08 and it would have given us a good shot in 09
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Quote from: Moranis on July 11, 2011, 09:01:57 AM
Quote from: scaryjerry on July 11, 2011, 08:39:25 AM
Quote from: Who on July 11, 2011, 12:05:31 AM
In 2007, fresh off of Duncan leading San An to the title, I would have picked Tim Duncan over KG but it would have been the wrong choice.

Kevin Garnett has aged much better than Timmy and has been the more effective player over the last couple of seasons.

Thats actually a ridicoulous concept...KG missed half a season and all of the playoffs the year we were trying to repeat (never happened to duncan) and was a shell of himself all the next season...Last year Duncan looked done and KG had a bit of a bounce back year, i guess that must be what ur basing that off of
I was also confused by that statement.  Duncan has been significantly better then Garnett in every season except last year and it hasn't really been close.  Not only has he played more games, he played more minutes per game, was more efficient, and had better totals.  Now some of that certainly could have been as a result of their respective roles, but the numbers don't lie.
My view of their performances

2008 -- Garnett = Duncan -- the two best big man in the league. Comparable output.

2009 -- Duncan > Garnett -- Garnett outplaying Duncan until he got injured. Duncan hurt and slowed late in season but still played and gave his team a solid performance in the playoffs which is much better than KG's absence due to injury. I would have expected the Celtics to make the Conference Finals or NBA Finals runner up with Timmy.

2010 -- Garnett > Duncan -- Timmy's harsh decline defensively and lack of athleticism leads to San Antonio losing in the second round to Phoenix because Timmy can't defend the pick and roll or cover as much ground defensively as he used to. Meanwhile, KG is a leading figure in Boston making the Finals.

2011 -- Garnett >> Duncan -- large advantage for KG by this point due to the huge difference in each player's respective defensive contributions. Comparable rebounders. Slight edge offensively for KG too.
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