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Who is most  to blame for the current NBA lockout?

Owners - greed is pushing them for guaranteed profits for every owner and in business there should be no such thing as guaranteed profits
10 (43.5%)
Players - there are just too many players that receive contract guarantees that kill the ability for most teams to compete on a yearly basis as injuries and lack of performance after signing these contracts kill teams with the current CBA rules in place
6 (26.1%)
Both equally - it should never have come to this in a business worth billions of dollars and where franchises reutinely sell for over $400 million dollars and the average player salary is $5 milllion per year.
5 (21.7%)
Other - envy of the success of MLB and NFL, world economic woes, disparaity in big/small market franchises
2 (8.7%)

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Re: Who's to blame for the lockout?
« Reply #45 on: July 06, 2011, 12:42:22 PM »

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Quote from: eja117 on July 05, 2011, 09:51:41 PM
Nobody on the planet gets a deal like the average NBA player. Nobody.  The only place NBA players do worse is the draft.  If you're the #1 pick, you'll get an ok deal, then the team will have two options to exercise, whereas you can be Ryan Leaf in the NFL and get way too much money. Other than that NBA players have it way way way over NFL. 

That's by design.  The combination of max contracts and a rookie-scale have the effect of moving money from those players to everyone else.

I'm not sure comparing NBA and NFL salaries is entirely fair.  A starter in the NBA might play 70% of available minutes.  No NFL player plays 70% of available downs, due to offensive and defensive specialization.  NFL players are also a bigger injury risk, so less money should be committed towards them.

 
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Re: Who's to blame for the lockout?
« Reply #46 on: July 06, 2011, 01:30:29 PM »

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Quote from: nickagneta on July 05, 2011, 06:33:02 PM
Actually what the article states is that the NFL player salaries are about 56% of league revenues, MLB salaries about 58% of league revenues and the NHL salaries are at about 54% of league revenues.

The NBA salaries, as compared to all three other profitable overall sports league is right in line. In all other 3 profitable American sports leagues the players receive 54-58% of the league revenues. MLB and the NHL have significant revenue sharing in place. The NFL does as well though part of that lockout is about revenue sharing as well. The NBA revenue shares less than any sports league in America.

This needs to be resolved for the owners to get it to the point of every team being on an equal playing field without trying to decrease the players' share of revenues to a ridiculously lower level than that of the other three leagues that are all profitable and all have some form of significant revenue sharing.

I think it is tough to compare the NBA to MLB and the NFL.

The NFL has a much more balanced system, because of the massive National TV deals, which are shared evenly among the teams, and does not leave room for individual local TV deals that can vary dramatically from team to team that you have in the NBA, MLB, and NHL.  That allows each team to have more of a fixed income level, so you don't have dramatic differences between teams.

In MLB, you have just a handful of teams paying a huge percentage of the salaries.  When you have 3 or 4 teams with salaries well over $100 million, and then a bunch of teams less than $50 million, it really throws off the balance.  But, in baseball, they can get away with this, because of the nature of the sport, and more importantly because of the very team centric rookie contracts which allows small market teams to keep young stars on relatively cheap deals for much longer than any other major sport.

The NHL on the other hand is comparable.  They work at a lower number though, which makes it easier to control.  And I think if the players will agree to a hard cap like the NHL, then the percentages could be comparable. 
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Re: Who's to blame for the lockout?
« Reply #47 on: July 06, 2011, 01:59:19 PM »

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The owners are crying poor but thats obviously not true. However equal if not more blame is on players. They have WAY too much power in this league. Melo holding the Nuggets hostage for half a season. Miami three planning their move years back. Players just picking the city/team they want to play for (not just a trade). I may be wrong, but i dont think any of the other major sports have such power  their players.

Also, their needs to be a hard cap. That solves the money issue (no more Agent zero and Rashard Lewis cotracts)and it makes teams somewhat more balanced
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