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98.5 fm putting down the Celtics
« on: July 03, 2011, 02:25:50 PM »

Offline DarkDragon

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I registered just to post this because it made me angry. I heard stuff like "The Celtics are the 4th team in town." "Boston is a Celtics town not an NBA" town. They were wondering how many people will care if most of the season is cancelled and they said not many. The host Im talking about is Rich Keefe. I know 98.5 is the Bruins flagship so they will say the Bruins are more important than the Celtics but that doesnt mean I have to sit and take it.

I mean if youre gonna say Boston is a Celtics town and not an NBA town then why not say Boston is a Red Sox town and not a baseball town because that is also 100% true as well as it being a Patriots town and not a football town. This lockout is gonna give the anti Celtics people in the media a lot of ammunition. I know the general feeling is to say "Just be glad and happy all the local teams are doing well" but its kinda hard to enjoy it when the media treats it differently and we have to listen to them ask questions about popularity, rankings, and importance of the teams and blah blah blah and all there other nonsense.

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Keefe is not the only one on that station who dislikes the NBA.  Michael Felger is an admitted NBA-hater, but that doesn't mean he likes the Celtics.  He constantly has critical comments of Ainge.  His goal is to be able to say "I told you so".  I feel very sorry for such people who must be right and must tell everyone.

The morning show on 98.5 is terrible.  The DJ's are unimaginative, trite and boring.

The Baseball Show with Tony Massaroti is not bad, but that because Tony Maz is so good.  Everything else about that station sucks.

Don't take it personally DD.  Oh, and welcome to CB.

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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2011, 02:38:39 PM »

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I know abut Felger. He also hates college football and college basketball as well so I'm used to his rhetoric by now. I just wish radio hosts, columnists, tv personalities, etc. would stop their obsession over the "Which team is #1, Which team is 2nd, Which team is 3rd, which team is 4th" crap because that is petty and stupid to me especially since a few years ago the Bruins were buried in the 4th spot according to the same media. 98.5 fm is loving that the Bruins have risen up and I expect them to gloat but they arent objective as they put down the Celtics and not the Red Sox because they realize the Celtics are their competition because they are on WEEI.

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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2011, 02:42:59 PM »

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Trust me, it bothers me too (see my "I Hate Felger with a Passion" post a while back.)

What bothers me above millions of reasons is, if you're working at a Boston sports radio station, you're suppose to promote ALL Boston teams. Not just the ones that you like.

Apparently, the pinheads at the Sports Hub didn't get the memo.

Honestly, whenever I listen to them, I really am reminded of the idiot that sits in back of the class in high school, trying to be cool.

That's seriously who Felger, Massaroti, Toucher and Rich and the rest of them remind me of.

Okay, they don't run the Celtics games so they clearly don't care about the NBA, I get it. But at least have some respect for those like us who do like the Celtics.

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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2011, 03:01:14 PM »

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Trust me, it bothers me too (see my "I Hate Felger with a Passion" post a while back.)

What bothers me above millions of reasons is, if you're working at a Boston sports radio station, you're suppose to promote ALL Boston teams. Not just the ones that you like.


Apparently, the pinheads at the Sports Hub didn't get the memo.

Honestly, whenever I listen to them, I really am reminded of the idiot that sits in back of the class in high school, trying to be cool.

That's seriously who Felger, Massaroti, Toucher and Rich and the rest of them remind me of.

Okay, they don't run the Celtics games so they clearly don't care about the NBA, I get it. But at least have some respect for those like us who do like the Celtics.

Could you imagine if they had to deal with multiple teams in multiple sports.

I listen to WFAN here in NYC, and the hosts do a pretty good job at promoting all 9 local teams.

The most putdowns come from the hosts panning their own teams (usually the Mets, Knicks, and Jets).


It's cyclical in Boston IMO. I think the Sox are always number 1 because of the history behind them, then it comes down to which team is doing the best. Right now it's the Bruins. In the early part of the decade, it was the Pats. 2007-10 it was the C's.

I will say I was quite surprised when I went to Boston last season how big of a hockey town it was. I went for the C's-Lakers game and was expecting craziness (not only at the game but around the city - and it was). But the amount of Bruins fans and hockey fans for a college tournament in TD Garden was shocking.
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2011, 03:07:01 PM »

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Yeah, Boston is a very cyclical city and the Boston sports media is very fickle. Like in 2010, the Celtics were clearly miles ahead of the Bruins because the Bruins had that embarrasing collapse vs. the Flyers and the Celtics were literally minutes away from winning an NBA title before LA just outplayed them.

However, this year Danny Ainge made that very unpoplular Perkins trade, the Celts had a very poor playoff showing and the Bruins go on to win the Stanley Cup.

Really, it depends on who's playing well. I must say though, the New York Times is pretty tough on it's teams, especially the Yankees.

I still vividly remember the pic of Jeter in a Red Sox uniform when negotiations with the Yankees weren't going well last winter (lol.)
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In all fairness, the Celtics are the furthest away from competing for a Championship.

Kudos to the Boston Bruins for winning the Stanley Cup Championship and keeping this Golden Age going for Boston sports. They are at the top of the food chain, obviously.

2nd are the Boston Red Sox who if they can get their pitchers back healthy and possibly trade for Carlos Beltran might get there this year.

3rd are the Patriots who frankly should have gone to the Super Bowl but the J--s beat them in Game 17. Their defense gets One Year better but they have not settled that lockout yet.

4th are the Celtics who frankly faded after the trade of Kendrick Perkins. That was an Epic Fail by Danny Ainge and now Grousebeck is coming out in favor of the hard cap and "Sacrificing" a season to "Get an Economic Balance" in the NBA. All he is doing is guarenteeing further decline of his team in the long run because the players won't come to Boston. The player agents and World Wide Wes will see to that. Maybe in 2019, led by our class of 2011 Perdue Boilamaker veterans, we might get to sniff the NBA Finals once more. Meanwhile we will be forced to root for My Hammy to stop the Lakers from passing us in NBA titles won.  :-X  :-X  :-X
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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2011, 03:24:32 PM »

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Yeah, Boston is a very cyclical city and the Boston sports media is very fickle. Like in 2010, the Celtics were clearly miles ahead of the Bruins because the Bruins had that embarrasing collapse vs. the Flyers and the Celtics were literally minutes away from winning an NBA title before LA just outplayed them.

However, this year Danny Ainge made that very unpoplular Perkins trade, the Celts had a very poor playoff showing and the Bruins go on to win the Stanley Cup.

Really, it depends on who's playing well. I must say though, the New York Times is pretty tough on it's teams, especially the Yankees.

I still vividly remember the pic of Jeter in a Red Sox uniform when negotatoins with the Yankees weren't going well last winter (lol.)


I rarely read the Sports section in the newspapers here because of how inaccurate and biased they are, as we have not only the Times, but the Daily News, Post, and Newsday. They are all awful, and I remember seeing that Jeter picture. It was funny, but expected.

Once I got a cable modem I stopped reading the sports section as I find out everything as it's happening online. But I still enjoy the radio, especially WFAN (which is a Mets/Nets/Jets AND Giants station).
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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2011, 03:26:18 PM »

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I disagree. I think all the Celts need is another blockbuster trade (KG/Ray for Josh Smith/Joe Johnson) or a really productive 2012 offseason with tons of cap room to acquire either Paul, Deron or Howard and they're back in business.

I do agree the Perkins trade was a bad idea. It didn't make any short term sense and makes even less long term sense because now the Celts have even more uncertainty with no center for the future.

However, if the Celts can land Dwight Howard or even a lesser player like Chandler, Nene or even Dalembert, all would be forgotten.


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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2011, 03:26:55 PM »

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In all fairness, the Celtics are the furthest away from competing for a Championship.

Kudos to the Boston Bruins for winning the Stanley Cup Championship and keeping this Golden Age going for Boston sports. They are at the top of the food chain, obviously.

2nd are the Boston Red Sox who if they can get their pitchers back healthy and possibly trade for Carlos Beltran might get there this year.

3rd are the Patriots who frankly should have gone to the Super Bowl but the J--s beat them in Game 17. Their defense gets One Year better but they have not settled that lockout yet.

4th are the Celtics who frankly faded after the trade of Kendrick Perkins. That was an Epic Fail by Danny Ainge and now Grousebeck is coming out in favor of the hard cap and "Sacrificing" a season to "Get an Economic Balance" in the NBA. All he is doing is guarenteeing further decline of his team in the long run because the players won't come to Boston. The player agents and World Wide Wes will see to that. Maybe in 2019, led by our class of 2011 Perdue Boilamaker veterans, we might get to sniff the NBA Finals once more. Meanwhile we will be forced to root for My Hammy to stop the Lakers from passing us in NBA titles won.  :-X  :-X  :-X

This is a BS argument because all the teams are capable of winning, and it wouldn't surprise anyone if any did.

The C's won a championship since the Sox and Pats did. They've also been to another championship since the Sox or Pats. The C's recent success (last 5 seasons) is much better than any team, including the Bruins.
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« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2011, 03:38:10 PM »

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In all fairness, the Celtics are the furthest away from competing for a Championship.

Kudos to the Boston Bruins for winning the Stanley Cup Championship and keeping this Golden Age going for Boston sports. They are at the top of the food chain, obviously.

2nd are the Boston Red Sox who if they can get their pitchers back healthy and possibly trade for Carlos Beltran might get there this year.

3rd are the Patriots who frankly should have gone to the Super Bowl but the J--s beat them in Game 17. Their defense gets One Year better but they have not settled that lockout yet.

4th are the Celtics who frankly faded after the trade of Kendrick Perkins. That was an Epic Fail by Danny Ainge and now Grousebeck is coming out in favor of the hard cap and "Sacrificing" a season to "Get an Economic Balance" in the NBA. All he is doing is guarenteeing further decline of his team in the long run because the players won't come to Boston. The player agents and World Wide Wes will see to that. Maybe in 2019, led by our class of 2011 Perdue Boilamaker veterans, we might get to sniff the NBA Finals once more. Meanwhile we will be forced to root for My Hammy to stop the Lakers from passing us in NBA titles won.  :-X  :-X  :-X

If there's a season next year and our big four can stay healthy, then the Boston Celtics are absolutely still a title contender.
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« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2011, 03:48:17 PM »

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In all fairness, the Celtics are the furthest away from competing for a Championship.

Kudos to the Boston Bruins for winning the Stanley Cup Championship and keeping this Golden Age going for Boston sports. They are at the top of the food chain, obviously.

2nd are the Boston Red Sox who if they can get their pitchers back healthy and possibly trade for Carlos Beltran might get there this year.

3rd are the Patriots who frankly should have gone to the Super Bowl but the J--s beat them in Game 17. Their defense gets One Year better but they have not settled that lockout yet.

4th are the Celtics who frankly faded after the trade of Kendrick Perkins. That was an Epic Fail by Danny Ainge and now Grousebeck is coming out in favor of the hard cap and "Sacrificing" a season to "Get an Economic Balance" in the NBA. All he is doing is guarenteeing further decline of his team in the long run because the players won't come to Boston. The player agents and World Wide Wes will see to that. Maybe in 2019, led by our class of 2011 Perdue Boilamaker veterans, we might get to sniff the NBA Finals once more. Meanwhile we will be forced to root for My Hammy to stop the Lakers from passing us in NBA titles won.  :-X  :-X  :-X

If there's a season next year and our big four can stay healthy, then the Boston Celtics are absolutely still a title contender.

Agreed, why people are still treating Perkins like an All Star or HOF tier center is amazing to me. Lets be honest, Perk IMHO is a tough down low center but those are not irreplaceable. He averaged in single digits in ppg and rebounds per game, he was coming off of a terrible injury and the timing of the trade was horrible. However if Jeff Green doesn't out produce him next year I will leave this board. The Celtics need to make some tweaks but lets be honest the top 3 in the East are the Heat Celtics and Bulls in any particular order.

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« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2011, 04:10:09 PM »

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I disagree. I think all the Celts need is another blockbuster trade (KG/Ray for Josh Smith/Joe Johnson) or a really productive 2012 offseason with tons of cap room to acquire either Paul, Deron or Howard and they're back in business.


This trade would leave us mired in mediocrity for the next decade.

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The Red Sox and Patriots are still #1 and #2 respectively, regardless of what the Sports Hub guys would have you think.  They are closely affiliated with hockey and they attract the typical hockey crowd (lower class native Bostonian types), so it seems skewed if you listen to their station.

The Celtics are probably solidly #4 now that they are fading and the Bruins own it.  Prior to this year's playoff run, though, I don't think the Bruins were more popular than the Celtics.  As others have said, it's cyclical.

Felger is a hater.  A sourpuss wind bag if I've ever heard one.


All that said, I think a significant factor in the difficult the Celtics have had in gaining a lasting foothold in this city is race.  Boston (and New England in general) is very predominantly white, and the Celtic teams of recent years have been mostly comprised of black players - especially the '08 team, which had no white rotation players (Scal doesn't count).  It's much easier for the city to rally around a team of white hockey players (even if practically none of them are even American).
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Among the most agonizing to listen to topics on sports radio is the 'which sport is the top in this town' topic.  It is virtually indisputable that popularity is mostly dependent upon which team is playing and winning at the moment.  And regardless, does it really matter whether Joe from Revere thinks this is Hockey town, Ed in Falmouth thinks this is a baseball town, Tom in Swampscott thinks this is a basketball town or Noreen in Taunton thinks this is a football town?  Really?   What an absolute waste of airtime, and what an absolute waste of personal energy if you allow someone's opinion on what sport this 'town' likes best influence your mood or infiltrate your thoughts.  It just doesn't matter.

As for folks thinking that the C's are #4 on the next local team to win a championship, just note that the Bruin's were #4 on EVERYONE'S list 6 months ago.  I guess they were all wrong.  And yet, the world continues to turn.