Danny, you are a schmuck !!

[housecall]

Teams usually are looking to find player(s) to help fill their biggest need(s)as quick as possible at the draft...after Avery Johnson said in an interview(after the draft)that it will potentially help them fill one of their biggest needs at the 2g...it reminded me why Danny went the route he did.Our(Celtics)biggest needs seem to be in align with the draft choices he made.A potential good rebounder,defensive-minded,scoring,maturity(4yr.college),etc is what both Johnson and our other pick potentially will bring to the table.The only asset ive heard so far Marshon Brooks has is a possible polific scorer.We already have a decent 2g(Ray&hopefully Delonte)and a good backup the upcoming season.

It comes down to which player(s)fits your team best.

[KCattheStripe]

I agree, most of his shot attempts were contested.

Because:
- he's an extremely ball-dominant player and a shot-hog.
- even against college competition he lacks the ability to create high-percentage shots - and he was a senior playing mostly against underclassmen. It will get worse in the NBA.

Brooks will need to completely reinvent his game to succeed in the NBA. Maybe he can become a Jodie Meeks type of player. Not sure if his gigantic self-confidence is going to be an asset or a liability in achieving that.

you're making the same mistake Danny did,
judging a 22-year old player upon the system
he had to play in. He WAS the Friars last year.
Not a "ball hog", just the only talented player
on the entire team. The criticisms of his defense
are laughably misapplied, as he was only playing
within the system of the organization at that time,
and its skill set. (un-skill set).

So what happens next year when He's nowhere near the best player on his team?

[RyNye]

I am from Providence, and follow the Friars consistently. Marshon Brooks would not be a good fit in the Celtics system, and I don't think he is going to be a multi-year All-Star. He's not that great of a player, honestly, despite your bizarre claims that every one of his points was contested. I am not even entirely sure if you have ever watched a Friars game, based on what you are saying in this thread.

He is a good shooter, yes, but his game is not ready for the NBA. All he really did in college was run iso plays, and he is no good off the ball. In this year's draft class he had the third lowest percentage of catch-and-shoot opportunities, which is indicative of his style of play. Most of his point come off contested jumpers; yeah, he had a good senior year draining these, but in the NBA the defense will be tougher and his horrible shot selection will catch up to him. He needs to make a lot of adjustments to play in the NBA. He has awful court vision, is a mediocre passer, and is not a good defensive player. You can prattle all you want about the Friars system, but that only goes for team defense. His man-on-man effort is lackluster, and he is really bad about getting back to his end of the court (loves admiring his own baskets, which isn't good in the NBA).

Remember, this kid was a 2nd round projection until the combine, and only rose due to having a good athletic showing. An NBA star that does not make. He is going to be a Nick Young or Jordan Crawford level contributor, at best.

[Change]

the only schmuck here is the OP. Take a chill pill and relax.  Being handicapper doesn't lend you credence as a talent evaluator. It wasn't just Danny Ainge, 24 other GMs passed on Marshon. Are you implying that you know more than the NBA scouts?  I would advice you to google Morris Almond. Cause that is who Marshon Brooks reminds me of.

[throwedoff]

Thing is Brooks said he didn't want to be a Celtic and was relieved when he was traded to the Nets so I don't see the big deal here I like JJ Johnson nd think he'll contribute immediately

[snowball]

ok, fine, nobody agrees with me, and I've
even been called a liar for saying I watched every
Friars game. The conversation cannot proceed.
I'll leave with this:

Of the 234 jump shots Brooks took in the half court setting according to Synergy this season, just 27 were of the unguarded, catch-and-shoot variety, but he scored a lethal 1.7 points per shot on those attempts.

Skip Bayless on ESPN First Take
Marshon Brooks is by far the best player in the draft & he went #25 to the Nets.

 "i did all my scoring with 2 or 3 guys on me"

Remember that Danny threw this kid in the trash bin.

good day

[snowball]

ok, fine, nobody agrees with me, and I've
even been called a liar for saying I watched every
Friars game. The conversation cannot proceed.
I'll leave with this:

Of the 234 jump shots Brooks took in the half court setting according to Synergy this season, just 27 were of the unguarded, catch-and-shoot variety, but he scored a lethal 1.7 points per shot on those attempts.

Skip Bayless on ESPN First Take
Marshon Brooks is by far the best player in the draft & he went #25 to the Nets.

 "i did all my scoring with 2 or 3 guys on me"

Remember that Danny had this kid, then threw him away
without giving him a chance to be a Celtic.

good day

[SCBirdman]

...[/b].
Brooks will become a multi-year All Star
and dominant force in the East.
 
...

Oh C'mon, really?  Then why did he fall to #25?  My understanding is Brooks doesn't play much defense.

Neither did Ray or PP until KG and Thib's showed up. Defense is all about want to. Doc could have gotten him to buy into playing D. I too was ecstatic when we drafted Brooks, only to find he was traded....very disappointed.

[RAG50K]

Yeah, I'd rather trust every Draft expert in the world, 24 GM's, the innumerable scouts for colleges and the NBA over Skip Bayless.
This guy was considered an early second round talent till his workouts began and even then only managed to get picked at what is essentially #27. Plus, he's going to a system where the two guard hardly handles the ball, and will depend on catch and shoot a lot( which he apparently sucks at)

[throwedoff]

ok, fine, nobody agrees with me, and I've
even been called a liar for saying I watched every
Friars game. The conversation cannot proceed.
I'll leave with this:

Of the 234 jump shots Brooks took in the half court setting according to Synergy this season, just 27 were of the unguarded, catch-and-shoot variety, but he scored a lethal 1.7 points per shot on those attempts.

Skip Bayless on ESPN First Take
Marshon Brooks is by far the best player in the draft & he went #25 to the Nets.

 "i did all my scoring with 2 or 3 guys on me"

Remember that Danny threw this kid in the trash bin.

good day

Its not that we disagree wit u cuz it was some other fans dissapointed wit not keeping brooks but bruh ur blowing it outta proportion i wont lose any sleep over trading a guy who didnt wanna be here

[u2larkin04]

I was thrilled when we drafted Marshon, but after hearing that he didn't want to play for us that definitely changes things. You can't bring in a guy who doesn't want to be here, would definitely mess up the chemistry.

[oldmanspeaks]

Actually I follow a lot of draft blogs and basically Brooks set a record for varied opinions by both bloggers and NBA clubs. A few number of people and clubs really liked him and a lot of others were really down on him. Different opinions often happen but not to the degree expressed on Brooks. He must have really had some up and down games to have some consider him a lottery pick and others that he shouldn't even be in the first round. I never found out why the opinions were so unbelievably strong in both directions.

[CelticsFanNC]

...[/b].
Brooks will become a multi-year All Star
and dominant force in the East.
 
...

Oh C'mon, really?  Then why did he fall to #25?  My understanding is Brooks doesn't play much defense.

  I watch a ton of Big East games.  Let me correct you a bit.

  Marshon Brooks doesn't play ANY DEFENSE so he doesn't fit in Boston because Doc doesn't play guys who don't play defense.

[tyrone biggums]

All of Brooks' points (and there were obviously
many, with his held Big East records), were
stiffly challenged. As the only player on
Providence worth guarding, habitually 2-3 players
would be guarding against him.

at least he's happy in Jersey, he was born there,
will likely start, and has a great PG.

as a Celtics fan, I am deeply dissapointed in
Danny's failure to evaluate young talent.
Brooks could have been the replacement for either
Pierce or Allen. He's a better player than Jeff
Green, right NOW he's better than Green.
Just watch fellas.. he's going to make Danny
look like an idiot.

that's alls I gots to say !

I stopped reading after that. Jeff Green is a good player, was he worthy of the #5? Probably not. However I think we undervalue him quite a bit. This guy hasn't even seen an NBA court yet, and if your evaluation is correct then Cleveland made a massive mistake passing on this kid TWICE!

[StartOrien]

I was initially disapointed that we didn't keep Brooks, as I think he could be a good bench scorer.

But let's temper the expectations for him down a little - you're hoping that he develops into a poor mans Jamal Crawford.