Johnson - the perfect BBD replacement

[the_Bird]

But, they're going to NEED to spend the MLE on a center, so if we only have the LLE or veteran minimum contracts to give out,   

You are assuming that there will still be a MLE and LLE to give out in the new CBA.....

Well, we've got to make SOME assumptions for the time being, otherwise, what the hell are we going to talk about?

[clover]

Yep, Danny's got to bring in a veteran center, then I'd have Murphy (or a Murphy-like signing) as a third-string 4 and 5. 

Doc is right, they've got to get him out playing to really know how he can stand up to NBA players.  But in the best case, he and the MLE center would split Baby's minutes next year.

[Who]

I want Danny to bring BBD back. A one year $5-6 million deal.

Not certain enough about JJ's ability to be a quality rotation player on a title contender right off the bat. Especially since the C's depth at center might not be great. They could become very vulnerable at the big man slots very quickly if JJ isn't ready. 

[Marcus13]

Well if the recent reports on JO are accurate ; there's a good chance we're needing both of them

[clover]

I want Danny to bring BBD back. A one year $5-6 million deal.

Not certain enough about JJ's ability to be a quality rotation player on a title contender right off the bat. Especially since the C's depth at center might not be great. They could become very vulnerable at the big man slots very quickly if JJ isn't ready. 

Ugh--I'd hate it and I think Baby'd only take the one-year deal if he's really rejected by the rest of the league, but there is some cap management logic to it if he'd go for it.  Would likely also mean that Johnson wouldn't get any minutes to speak of through the year.

[Chris]

I want Danny to bring BBD back. A one year $5-6 million deal.

Not certain enough about JJ's ability to be a quality rotation player on a title contender right off the bat. Especially since the C's depth at center might not be great. They could become very vulnerable at the big man slots very quickly if JJ isn't ready. 

Yeah, depending on the CBA (assuming this signing wouldn't stop them from using the MLE, etc.), I think signing Davis to a 1 year deal would be as good as the C's could hope for. 

Takes some pressure off Johnson, and gives them some much needed beef down low, while taking advantage of Bird rights.

[Spilling Green Dye]

I want Danny to bring BBD back. A one year $5-6 million deal.

Not certain enough about JJ's ability to be a quality rotation player on a title contender right off the bat. Especially since the C's depth at center might not be great. They could become very vulnerable at the big man slots very quickly if JJ isn't ready. 

5 to 6??  I bet he won't get more than $3.2, especially considering the upcoming reduction in salaries w/ the new CBA.

I could see the desire to have Davis back so that JJ doesn't play as many minutes, but we all know Doc's penchant for playing Davis a ton of minutes (and not playing rookies).  My point is also that JJ does many of the things that Davis already does.

My ideal scenario is to get a Center with the MLE and then bring back Murphy and let Davis walk.

[Who]

I want Danny to bring BBD back. A one year $5-6 million deal.

Not certain enough about JJ's ability to be a quality rotation player on a title contender right off the bat. Especially since the C's depth at center might not be great. They could become very vulnerable at the big man slots very quickly if JJ isn't ready. 

5 to 6??  I bet he won't get more than $3.2, especially considering the upcoming reduction in salaries w/ the new CBA.

I could see the desire to have Davis back so that JJ doesn't play as many minutes, but we all know Doc's penchant for playing Davis a ton of minutes (and not playing rookies).  My point is also that JJ does many of the things that Davis already does.

My ideal scenario is to get a Center with the MLE and then bring back Murphy and let Davis walk.

Yeah, I don't think he'll get more than $3-4 million per annum either but I do expect him to get offered a multi-year deal over three to four seasons.

Say a $12 million three year deal. I think that is the most likely range for him. A four year $16 million deal being on the upper level.

The Celtics will need to overpay BBD to get him to pass up that long term money for a one year contract. So I think they'll probably have to pony up about $6 million to have a chance of getting it done.

[snively]

I want Danny to bring BBD back. A one year $5-6 million deal.

Not certain enough about JJ's ability to be a quality rotation player on a title contender right off the bat. Especially since the C's depth at center might not be great. They could become very vulnerable at the big man slots very quickly if JJ isn't ready. 

I think replacing Baby, not resigning him, should be their priority.  I don't think they're counting on a skinny rookie to do that. 

With KG and JO's health issues and minutes limitations, there's a 30 mpg role for our 3rd big.  I think BBD is toxic in that role.

Only, if we resign Jeff Green to a multi-year deal (a bad idea with Pierce on board for 2-3 years, IMHO) and we avoid any other multi-year deals to preserve 2012 cap space, would I acknowledge the necessity of retaining BBD in this way.

[cman88]

Being a 4 year player in college he should be able to contribute some...the biggest comparison to me is taj gibson. In his rookie year he was able to average 9ppg. And 7rpg. If johnson could give us that it would be great. But we need to sign a more veteran pf as well.

[manl_lui]

well I like Johnson, but he hasn't prove himself in the league yet...

lets see how he does in the pre-season then during the season first

[BballTim]

I want Danny to bring BBD back. A one year $5-6 million deal.

Not certain enough about JJ's ability to be a quality rotation player on a title contender right off the bat. Especially since the C's depth at center might not be great. They could become very vulnerable at the big man slots very quickly if JJ isn't ready. 

I think replacing Baby, not resigning him, should be their priority.  I don't think they're counting on a skinny rookie to do that. 

With KG and JO's health issues and minutes limitations, there's a 30 mpg role for our 3rd big.  I think BBD is toxic in that role.

Only, if we resign Jeff Green to a multi-year deal (a bad idea with Pierce on board for 2-3 years, IMHO) and we avoid any other multi-year deals to preserve 2012 cap space, would I acknowledge the necessity of retaining BBD in this way.

  You also need a 4th big that's going to play meaningful minutes at some point in time. Is that Murphy? The problem with dumping Baby (I'm not a huge fan of his btw) is that the odds of bringing in two bigs that will contribute more than he's capable of is slim at best. Without (my) checking, how many of the final 8 had a 4th big better than Glen?

[mc34]

JJto NBDL
pick a real player as KG backup
enough of fairy tales provoked because of extra draft day pumping

People forget so quickly that even Luke Harangody averaged 9 minutes per game with us. We need bodies, plain and simple. Expect to see Johnson get at least 10 minutes per game.

[Fafnir]

JJto NBDL
pick a real player as KG backup
enough of fairy tales provoked because of extra draft day pumping

People forget so quickly that even Luke Harangody averaged 9 minutes per game with us. We need bodies, plain and simple. Expect to see Johnson get at least 10 minutes per game.

9 mins per game, but he only appeared in 23 game out of 55.

MPG is deceptive when you get so many CD-DNPs

[erisred]

But, they're going to NEED to spend the MLE on a center, so if we only have the LLE or veteran minimum contracts to give out,   

You are assuming that there will still be a MLE and LLE to give out in the new CBA.....

Well, we've got to make SOME assumptions for the time being, otherwise, what the hell are we going to talk about?

There will be something in the new CBA. Might not be MLE and LLE, but there will be some way of adding players...I think. A lower, harder cap, might be coming, but I think it will be phased in over a couple of years.  We'll see what happens.