3 point shooting off the bench

[cman88]

One of the things that helped the mavs beat the heat was that they had 5 guys who could space the floor a d knock down 3s. This allowed spacing for jj to have dribble penetration

While our most glaring holes are at the 4 and 5.  I think we need to add some shooters to our bench. Last year we only really had ray as a 3 point threat. We beneffited in 08 from having a guy like eddie house to come off the bench and stretch the floor with his shot. I think this is something danny needs to address this offseason also..mb we could even bring back eddie house. Game 6 showed he can still drain it from 3

[jdub1660]

But it also showed that House was even more a liability on defense. Kidd at age 38 was owning House and Bibby(knocking him out of the rotation). Terry too was lighting them up, along with Barea.

I'm hoping we can get a Marshon Brooks and get JR Smith for MLE if it exists next season. Package BBD and Bradley for a bigman elsewhere if possible.

[Marcus13]

Welll they were able to get good three looks because the defense would collapse on JET and JJ's penetration.  That's the real issue; the only guy who we have that can take the ball to the hoop (Wafer) is buried on the bench...and he doesn't exactly have the best court vision when he does play

[celticinorlando]

go get jamaal crawford

[PortCelt]

One of the things that helped the mavs beat the heat was that they had 5 guys who could space the floor a d knock down 3s. This allowed spacing for jj to have dribble penetration

While our most glaring holes are at the 4 and 5.  I think we need to add some shooters to our bench. Last year we only really had ray as a 3 point threat. We beneffited in 08 from having a guy like eddie house to come off the bench and stretch the floor with his shot. I think this is something danny needs to address this offseason also..mb we could even bring back eddie house. Game 6 showed he can still drain it from 3

You've nailed the point I've been making about spacing and how more of it works to the determent of teams like Miami who close and trap the ball handler using their quickness. That's why the MLE, or a trade, for a scorer (J. R. Smith) is vital. We wouldn't have this urgent need if RR developed his mid range shot, but he remains reluctant to shoot or get fouled and teams with even less athleticism than Miami are able to sag off and rotate to the shooter ... many times with seconds left on the shot clock.

Look, Crawford would also fit, but Smith is 6 years younger and has the potential to be a good defender. I maintain a line up with RR - Smith, and a big like Batum who can park himself in the corners and stroke threes will prove kryptonite for Miami and Chicago.

[Chris]

go get jamaal crawford

I really think he would be an ideal fit, if they can find a way to address the frontcourt without the MLE.

And I agree about the shooting off the bench.  Or more accurately scoring.  I don't think its just a matter of needing a shooter, they need more guys who can score, both by creating their own shots, and within the offense.

[mgent]

Shooting is underrated, I consider it the most important skill off the bench, slightly ahead of defense and rebounding.

The days of multiple 38% 3pt shooters were great (Cassel, House, Posey).

[cman88]

I think history has proven that the celtics system can turn anyone into a decent defender. But what good is getting atops if you can't put up points on the other end? Danny needs to more look for scorers.  If we can address our problem at the 4 and 5 through other means(lle or s&t bbd) using the mle for someone like crawfor would be great.

We just don't have that 3 point threat out there when RA goes to the bench. It would allow that threat all 48mins

[BballTim]

I think history has proven that the celtics system can turn anyone into a decent defender.

  Mikki Moore disagrees.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I'd prefer someone who can create his own shot.

Although 3 pointers are really great since we have Rondo dishing passes everywhere, having someone who can create his own shot off the bench gives defenses some trouble. Someone who can penetrate instead of just waiting in the wings. Someone who can blow somebody off the dribble. And someone who can shoot. This will make opponents defense play out of  their rotation and opens up more people. Rondo can do this but every body else just stands up. If the C's have a double threat like that on the floor, people will be open.

Now, Marshon Brooks is making sense to me.

[Chris]

Now, Marshon Brooks is making sense to me.

My problem with Brooks is that I am not sure he can do much other than create his own shot.

While creating their own shot is important, they also need to be able to play within the system.  Particularly given the fact that Doc will likely be shaking things up a bit more next year, and trying to get more of the starters playing with the bench at times, and vice versa.

Those guys are hard to find of course, but I really think it is what could change this bench.

[cman88]

besides finding bigs....we really need to find some durable wings to backup Ray allen for 20mins a night....delonte will probably get injured at some point..

Von wafer was supposed to be that guy last year but he never really found his 3-point shot.

[mgent]

besides finding bigs....we really need to find some durable wings to backup Ray allen for 20mins a night....delonte will probably get injured at some point..

Von wafer was supposed to be that guy last year but he never really found his 3-point shot.

It's pretty clear Doc didn't fully trust Wafer (plus he was hurt too).  There's no reason that between Wafer and Harangody we couldn't have gotten similar production to what we got from Marquis.

Instead we traded a championship for Green.

[housecall]

Jamal Crawford demands a lot of $$$ for a one dimensional player.From watching his game closely this past season once he goes cold he's not much use anyother way.He's plays lousy one on one defense.The only way i would want Crawford is he came for the vet minimum and thats not going to happen.

[housecall]

besides finding bigs....we really need to find some durable wings to backup Ray allen for 20mins a night....delonte will probably get injured at some point..

Von wafer was supposed to be that guy last year but he never really found his 3-point shot.

It's pretty clear Doc didn't fully trust Wafer (plus he was hurt too).  There's no reason that between Wafer and Harangody we couldn't have gotten similar production to what we got from Marquis.

Instead we traded a championship for Green.

TP,i agree about Doc not trusting guys.I thought about the Celtics adding Aaron Gray but i wonder if Doc would mess up his confidence by not using him most of the season.A.Gray would be a perfect backup center that could possibly develop into a starting center at some point but he is not where Doc would like for players to be yet to get regular playing time.Personally,i am still wondering why they got rid of E.House.Some on this board claim at the time that Nate was a better defender and overall better player.I doubted it then and i doubt it today...where is Nate today?Eddie is still contributing on a contending team.