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Possible Trade with Portland
« on: June 12, 2011, 09:03:04 PM »

Offline diconzo

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Celtics trade: Kevin Garnett's 21mil expiring contract

Portland trades: Lamarcus Aldridge, Someone to even out salaries(Camby, Wallace, Oden)

With Boston giving Portland some picks (Clippers 2012, Their own 2012, or others)

Why Boston does this: If Danny is committed to a flawless transition, he needs to either trade KG or Ray's expiring contract. 21mil coming of the books for a team is huge. While I love Kevin Garnett, we need someone younger in the post. I would be thrilled if we brought KG back in the 2012 off season, but for now, we need some value for his contract. Plus Aldridge's contract is very desirable because he took a pay cut a few years back for Brandon Roy.

Why Portland does this: Portland won't win a title until Brandon Roy's contract is up. That means they need to get someone younger than Aldridge. He's 25 and when Roy's contract is up, he will be 28. That really only leaves 2-3 good years left of Aldridge. With that, they're a 5-7 seed at best. Portland needs to rebuild and get draft picks. While I'm not sure we could get Aldridge and Camby, there would have to be someone else to make the salaries work. It may seem odd for Portland to trade their blossoming star, but they won't get anywhere deep with Brandon Roy's contract.

With a core of Green, Aldridge, and Rondo, the Celtics would be set for a big free agent to come in and propel them to the championship. I hate the idea of trading KG, but a 21 million expiring contract is desirable for teams who need to focus on the future. Even if we don't win the championship in 2012, we should still make this trade. Then we could resign KG in the 2012 off season and make a push for Dwight. Rondo and Aldridge are on cost-efficient contracts so he would get the money he is looking for. It would look something like this:

2012-13 roster:

PG) Rondo, West(resign him for 2-3 years this off season)
SG) R.Allen(signed back for min, or close to it) ?
SF) Pierce, Green
PF) Aldridge, KG(signed back for min, or close to it)
C) Dwight Howard(I'm not saying were a lock to get him, but it seems like Ainge is committed to attracting him to Boston), ?

Re: Possible Trade with Portland
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2011, 09:20:17 PM »

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I know it seems very lopsided at first, but Portland has to realize that they have not cap flexibility and Aldridge isn't getting any younger. While they could probably get something better for him, it wouldn't hurt to try.

Re: Possible Trade with Portland
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2011, 09:35:11 PM »

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You know what? That sounds like the DAL-NJ trade involving Harris and Kidd. Although Harris put up star numbers in NJ, eventually trading Kidd hurt NJ because his experience and savvy were missed. I think Aldridge is a future all star, but a drawback to this trade is that we'd miss Garnett's leadership and veteran savvy.

Re: Possible Trade with Portland
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2011, 09:51:20 PM »

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You know what? That sounds like the DAL-NJ trade involving Harris and Kidd. Although Harris put up star numbers in NJ, eventually trading Kidd hurt NJ because his experience and savvy were missed. I think Aldridge is a future all star, but a drawback to this trade is that we'd miss Garnett's leadership and veteran savvy.

That's true. He brings so much more than 14 points and 8 rebounds to each game. But could the Celtics deal with sacrificing this season without KG and resign him in the off season? There would have to be an agreement with KG on this one to make sure he's okay with this.

Re: Possible Trade with Portland
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2011, 11:18:28 PM »

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You know what? That sounds like the DAL-NJ trade involving Harris and Kidd. Although Harris put up star numbers in NJ, eventually trading Kidd hurt NJ because his experience and savvy were missed. I think Aldridge is a future all star, but a drawback to this trade is that we'd miss Garnett's leadership and veteran savvy.

That's true. He brings so much more than 14 points and 8 rebounds to each game. But could the Celtics deal with sacrificing this season without KG and resign him in the off season? There would have to be an agreement with KG on this one to make sure he's okay with this.

There would have to be an agreement with KG? As in a "we trade you, and you resign with us after next season?" I'm pretty sure this would fall under that Joe Smith-kind of thing that got Minnesota crushed. I know people would argue that teams do this anyway with the "we trade you, you get waived, and then you resign with us", I'm not sure it's as easy to prove as this would be.

I don't dislike the deal, especially if it somehow got us Oden or Camby too. I just don't think Portland does it. Even with all the payroll flexibility they gain, they've had such a debacle with their front office staff lately that I think if they essentially said "Screw it; we're rebuilding", the fans would run and never come back. Paul Allen's not exactly the most loved owner, yknow?

Re: Possible Trade with Portland
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2011, 11:25:23 PM »

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This sounds more like the kind of trade Portland goes for mid-season after they re-sign Oden for too much money and too many years, he inevitably gets injured, and they need to trade a useful asset to get someone to take Oden's corpse off their hands.
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Re: Possible Trade with Portland
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2011, 12:05:22 AM »

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Theres no way this would have any chance of happening... Portland laughs at this extremely hard.

Re: Possible Trade with Portland
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2011, 05:09:53 AM »

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LaMarcus is Portland's Robin to Brandon Roy as Batman. Since their Batman is still MIA, they need Aldridge to take the cowl cover up and make sure Portland's is alright.

Trading up their acting Batman for an older, still has a little ass kicking Bruce Wayne, no matter how much money they would save and will eventually land them a Terry McGinnis, is not what's gonna help Portland right now and in some future.
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Re: Possible Trade with Portland
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2011, 02:32:33 PM »

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This sounds more like the kind of trade Portland goes for mid-season after they re-sign Oden for too much money and too many years, he inevitably gets injured, and they need to trade a useful asset to get someone to take Oden's corpse off their hands.

Oden wouldn't be a bad guy to have around incase he does get healthy.(pause for laughter)

You know what? That sounds like the DAL-NJ trade involving Harris and Kidd. Although Harris put up star numbers in NJ, eventually trading Kidd hurt NJ because his experience and savvy were missed. I think Aldridge is a future all star, but a drawback to this trade is that we'd miss Garnett's leadership and veteran savvy.

That's true. He brings so much more than 14 points and 8 rebounds to each game. But could the Celtics deal with sacrificing this season without KG and resign him in the off season? There would have to be an agreement with KG on this one to make sure he's okay with this.

There would have to be an agreement with KG? As in a "we trade you, and you resign with us after next season?" I'm pretty sure this would fall under that Joe Smith-kind of thing that got Minnesota crushed. I know people would argue that teams do this anyway with the "we trade you, you get waived, and then you resign with us", I'm not sure it's as easy to prove as this would be.

I don't dislike the deal, especially if it somehow got us Oden or Camby too. I just don't think Portland does it. Even with all the payroll flexibility they gain, they've had such a debacle with their front office staff lately that I think if they essentially said "Screw it; we're rebuilding", the fans would run and never come back. Paul Allen's not exactly the most loved owner, yknow?

I know it sounds odd, but teams do it. Portland isn't going deep in the playoffs anytime soon and will waste Aldridge's prime like MIN did with KG, unless they trade him and get something of value. Boston has a lot of expiring contracts for next season and Ray+KG's contracts add up to around 31 million. Thats enough cap space to sign a big FA and a sidekick.

Re: Possible Trade with Portland
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2011, 02:36:44 PM »

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Theres no way this would have any chance of happening... Portland laughs at this extremely hard.
Agree.... why on earth would POR want to trade a 25 year old future all star player for a guy who's on a bad knee and clearly has his best days behind him? 

Just another ridiculous trade idea that makes 100% sense for the C's, but 0% for the other team.

Re: Possible Trade with Portland
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2011, 04:02:19 PM »

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Theres no way this would have any chance of happening... Portland laughs at this extremely hard.

There is no way Portland considers this.  They can get a lot more than expiring contracts and one good draft pick for Aldridge.  Aldridge is young and a big.  Deron Williams was worth salary cap relief, a good-not-great point guard, a highly drafted big, plus two other picks.  Aldridge is worth close to the same.  The Cetlics would (probably) have to give KG's salary, Big Baby, two draft picks (including the Clipper's pick), and another high potential young player (which we do not have) to get Aldridge.