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Re: Difference between Nowitski and Bosh/Lebron
« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2011, 02:49:01 PM »

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Difference between Nowitski and Bosh/Lebron

In the Finals?

The difference is David Stern and his officials.  And about 10 tons of class and humility.

-No Mark Cuban owned team will ever win an NBA championship under this NBA regieme.

The Finals' officiating  between the messiahs and the Mavericks will make the Lakers-Kings game 7 look like a Globetrotters-Generals exhibition.

Re: Difference between Nowitski and Bosh/Lebron
« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2011, 02:51:00 PM »

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The main reason i think Miami is going to destroy Dallas, is that Miami is killing passing lanes and penetration like no team since the Jordan Bulls.

Lebron's defense has been remarkable.

Dallas, like Boston, needs good ball movement to run their offense. Their passing better be super crisp.

What Dirk has done so far this post season has been amazing, but can he go supernova from the field for 4 or 5 more games?

Re: Difference between Nowitski and Bosh/Lebron
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2011, 03:23:51 PM »

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It will be interesting.


Lebron will go from defending Rose in the 4th to defending Dirk in the 4th.




They key for Dallas is the  bench.

Re: Difference between Nowitski and Bosh/Lebron
« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2011, 03:43:04 PM »

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I love the way he reminds me of Larry at times, but he's very soft. 

If you think Dirk is soft, you are just not watching.

Hey, Dirk is European, so he must be soft, right? I mean, all of us Europeans are. I'm the softest of them all  ::)

Man, the soft schtick is so old and so outdated it's just ridiculous.

Re: Difference between Nowitski and Bosh/Lebron
« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2011, 04:51:25 PM »

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I love the way he reminds me of Larry at times, but he's very soft. 

If you think Dirk is soft, you are just not watching.

Hey, Dirk is European, so he must be soft, right? I mean, all of us Europeans are. I'm the softest of them all  ::)

Man, the soft schtick is so old and so outdated it's just ridiculous.

Agreed.

Nothing soft about Dirk's game on offense. And then on D the guy doesn't put forth the effort needed to be a good defender. But he certainly isn't soft.

Bosh and Gasol are probably the only soft all stars I can think of. And what makes them soft? They are finesse players that are not mentally strong compared to other all stars.

..Dirk doesn't shy away from contact, and is ready to be the man in the biggest moments.

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« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2011, 05:20:53 PM »

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Bosh and Gasol are probably the only soft all stars I can think of. And what makes them soft? They are finesse players that are not mentally strong compared to other all stars.

Another outdated sentiment. Anyone that has watched Gasol and Bosh over the last couple years would realize they are not "soft" and "mentally weak". Christ, Gasol has two rings and carried the Lakers in the 2010 Finals. Bosh, in spite of an avalanche of criticism, has been excellent in the playoffs both defensively and offensively. 

Re: Difference between Nowitski and Bosh/Lebron
« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2011, 05:29:38 PM »

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Bosh and Gasol are probably the only soft all stars I can think of. And what makes them soft? They are finesse players that are not mentally strong compared to other all stars.

Another outdated sentiment. Anyone that has watched Gasol and Bosh over the last couple years would realize they are not "soft" and "mentally weak". Christ, Gasol has two rings and carried the Lakers in the 2010 Finals. Bosh, in spite of an avalanche of criticism, has been excellent in the playoffs both defensively and offensively. 

If Gasol doesn't still have softness to him, what the heck happened to him in the playoffs this year?

As for Bosh: yes he is an excellent player, a true all star. However he has been up and down this post season, and is essentially a jump shooting garbage man in the Heat offense. A mentally strong all star doesn't disappear for a game here and there in the playoffs. A mentally strong all star doesn't talk openly about his fear and insecurity to the media.

Despite all their talent, Gasol and Bosh could never be a number 1 on a serious contender because they dont have the mental make up for it.

Re: Difference between Nowitski and Bosh/Lebron
« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2011, 05:33:58 PM »

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Bosh and Gasol are probably the only soft all stars I can think of. And what makes them soft? They are finesse players that are not mentally strong compared to other all stars.

Another outdated sentiment. Anyone that has watched Gasol and Bosh over the last couple years would realize they are not "soft" and "mentally weak". Christ, Gasol has two rings and carried the Lakers in the 2010 Finals. Bosh, in spite of an avalanche of criticism, has been excellent in the playoffs both defensively and offensively. 

Also to say that Gasol carried the Lakers to a title implies that Kobe, Bynum and Odom practically did nothing. Gasol played the best for them that year. Again, he's an excellent player who did a great job that spring.

Gasol's talent for his size says he should be the best PF in the NBA every year. But he's not.

Re: Difference between Nowitski and Bosh/Lebron
« Reply #23 on: May 26, 2011, 06:01:07 PM »

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Bosh and Gasol are probably the only soft all stars I can think of. And what makes them soft? They are finesse players that are not mentally strong compared to other all stars.

Another outdated sentiment. Anyone that has watched Gasol and Bosh over the last couple years would realize they are not "soft" and "mentally weak". Christ, Gasol has two rings and carried the Lakers in the 2010 Finals. Bosh, in spite of an avalanche of criticism, has been excellent in the playoffs both defensively and offensively. 

Also to say that Gasol carried the Lakers to a title implies that Kobe, Bynum and Odom practically did nothing. Gasol played the best for them that year. Again, he's an excellent player who did a great job that spring.

Gasol's talent for his size says he should be the best PF in the NBA every year. But he's not.

It's fair to say Gasol carried them to last year's title as he was the only player on either team getting every single call.  Additionally, he played like the best PF in the NBA in last season's playoffs.

Re: Difference between Nowitski and Bosh/Lebron
« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2011, 06:02:32 PM »

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I think Dirk is a Jerk.  He is a soft player who  needs constant sympathy and love from the officials to have the tremendous impact he has.  I admire his shot, and I recognize that his athleticism and ballhandling are amazing for  a seven-footer,   and I love the way he reminds me of Larry at times, but he's very soft.  And the way he ****es and cries and complains if he doesn't get a call, or if - heaven forfend - something gets called on him is just pathetic.  And look what happens;  Durant rarely ****es, and as a result, he gets mugged and no calls.  Refs want to be respected, but do they deserve respect?   Players have been trained by the refs themselves that you have to work the refs constantly, and flop constantly, to get calls.  

And what I wonder is this:  will Dirk get all the love he needs from the refs in the finals?  Remember, the Heat are clearly the favorites in the eyes of the League and the TV companies.  They are the chosen ones.  Dirk, are you still gonna get all those cheap calls down the stretch that keep winning games for you, when you are playing the Heat?  I really wonder...

Durant does get the calls..he just has stretches where he settles for contested outside jump shots and doesn't attack the rim.  Dirk actually draws fouls. I'm not saying every call he gets isn't based on his super star status, but Durant got those calls too, he just made it far to easy by jacking up outside shots.  

Re: Difference between Nowitski and Bosh/Lebron
« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2011, 06:14:10 PM »

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Bosh and Gasol are probably the only soft all stars I can think of. And what makes them soft? They are finesse players that are not mentally strong compared to other all stars.

Another outdated sentiment. Anyone that has watched Gasol and Bosh over the last couple years would realize they are not "soft" and "mentally weak". Christ, Gasol has two rings and carried the Lakers in the 2010 Finals. Bosh, in spite of an avalanche of criticism, has been excellent in the playoffs both defensively and offensively. 

Also to say that Gasol carried the Lakers to a title implies that Kobe, Bynum and Odom practically did nothing. Gasol played the best for them that year. Again, he's an excellent player who did a great job that spring.

Gasol's talent for his size says he should be the best PF in the NBA every year. But he's not.

It's fair to say Gasol carried them to last year's title as he was the only player on either team getting every single call.  Additionally, he played like the best PF in the NBA in last season's playoffs.


Gasol carried the Lakers??? Really?

Kobe's averages in the 2010 playoffs:

ppg 29.2 on 46% FG shooting, and 6 rpg and 5.5 apg. Those are superstar numbers.

I get that we all hate Kobe, but the guy was still a beast last year. I do think that Gasol should have been the finals MVP. But to suggest that he carried the Lakers throughout the entire playoffs is a severe exaggeration.

And yes, for just 1 year in his career, Gasol has played like the best PF in the NBA. Thats it. Excellent player. But a little too mentally weak and a little too finesse to bring it every year, like a top 5 or 10 player in the NBA should.