Athleticism at the 2 & 4 spots - the key

[BballTim]

I agree with the topic of this post, athleticism at the 2 and 4 are key.

In the  "If you had to trade one of the Big 3" thread I proposed this trade which would give us more athletiism at both the 2 and 4, but at the expense of Ray whom we would have to replace with the full MLE:

"Ray Allen and our 1st round pick this year and throw in the Clips pick next year if we have to the Bulls

Taj Gibson, Corey Brewer and Omar Asik to us.

Bulls get the gunner they need at the 2 and we get depth up front, D at the wing and youth (all 3)and athleticism at the wing and the 4.

With our MLE (if there is one with the new CBA) we get the best sharpshooter out there to try to replace Ray."

Whaddya think?

  Corey Brewer's on Dallas, isn't he?

[mc34]

I like the idea of Przybilla and McRoberts. No thanks to Kris Humphries - he'll probably be expensive and NJ thinks pretty highly of him so you'll probably see him stick around there. I think JR Smith should be a priority with that MLE. And trust me, you don't want to see Hilton Armstrong. I live in DC, watched enough Wizards games last year to know that he is a liability

[LooseCannon]

If you want more athleticism at the 2, I would suggest telling Avery Bradley to work on his long-range shot instead of point guard skills and give him 5-10 mpg as the shooting guard paired with a real point guard in the backcourt.

[Celtic#9]

If we were to get Humphries I would start him at PF. Slide KG to % or have him come off the bench. Humphries has been a beast this last season. He averaged 10 a game playing 28 minutes. This is probably around 12 per game since Favors was traded.

Is that "slide KG to Center"?  If it is that's a viable idea.

in my mind sliding kg to center is a recipe for disaster...he can't play that position against championship caliber centers...

1. yes it is supposed to be center 
2. I think we can slide KG to center for situations and for few minutes a game. I wouldn't mind it if KG played 8-10 minutes a game at center if the situation is right. For example, he can go up against a back up center or times such as when Chris Bosh or Pau plays center against us or even against smaller centers.

[kozlodoev]

Przybilla is pretty much done. He had a pretty serious injury last season, and he reinjured the same foot again this season. At this point he may be a worse signing than Troy Murphy was.

[csfansince60s]

I agree with the topic of this post, athleticism at the 2 and 4 are key.

In the  "If you had to trade one of the Big 3" thread I proposed this trade which would give us more athletiism at both the 2 and 4, but at the expense of Ray whom we would have to replace with the full MLE:

"Ray Allen and our 1st round pick this year and throw in the Clips pick next year if we have to the Bulls

Taj Gibson, Corey Brewer and Omar Asik to us.

Bulls get the gunner they need at the 2 and we get depth up front, D at the wing and youth (all 3)and athleticism at the wing and the 4.

With our MLE (if there is one with the new CBA) we get the best sharpshooter out there to try to replace Ray."

Whaddya think?

  Corey Brewer's on Dallas, isn't he?

+1...meant Ronnie....thanks for the correction

[csfansince60s]

I agree with the topic of this post, athleticism at the 2 and 4 are key.

In the  "If you had to trade one of the Big 3" thread I proposed this trade which would give us more athletiism at both the 2 and 4, but at the expense of Ray whom we would have to replace with the full MLE:

"Ray Allen and our 1st round pick this year and throw in the Clips pick next year if we have to the Bulls

Taj Gibson, Corey Brewer and Omar Asik to us.

Bulls get the gunner they need at the 2 and we get depth up front, D at the wing and youth (all 3)and athleticism at the wing and the 4.

With our MLE (if there is one with the new CBA) we get the best sharpshooter out there to try to replace Ray."

Whaddya think?

  Corey Brewer's on Dallas, isn't he?

True as acknowledged above, but some interesting similarities.

Both played for SEC schools, both drafted in top 14, both wings, both born in Portland (Ore and TN), 25 and 26, 4 yr vet and 5 yr vet, nearly identical career stats in ALL categories.

Major difference:Corey is 2 inches taller but 40 pounds lighter.

[Kane3387]

J.R. Smith anyone? I think having Ray Allen as a mentor would be great for him. He is possibly a better player then Jeff Green...

[ScoobyDoo]

I'm not wedded to Pryzbilla or Humphries and didn't know Pryz was reinjured, forget it then. With Humphries I was thinking maybe he's finally arrived based on his play and that we could get him for cheap....

I think we just need some decent young center with "some" experience who can handle the pounding of the NBA season until the playoffs. And there are a number of guys I think would work as upgrades to our current roster and that would get us #18, if healthy.

For potential free agent signings I think would give us what we need, my list is:

Center:
Dalembert, DeAndre Jordan,  would be my first choices
Aaron Gray and Jeff Foster would also be sufficient.
And I wouldn't mind seeing Semih back either.
* Get one of the above, trade Jermaine, keep Shaq...

Power Forwards, my short list is:
Carl Landry, Josh McRoberts, Humphries

Off Guards:
JR Smith, Crawford, Forbes, CDR and Weems

I could definately live with Aaron Gray / Krstic, Shaq - center by committee.

The spend some money at the off guard position and small change on a McRoberts at PF,

Resign Baby if you want...but I wouldn't mind seeing what the combo of a resigned Big Baby at reasonable money, traded along with Jermaine's contract could get us in terms of young talent from a team that's looking to move some player...

[ScoobyDoo]

Also, I'm not as concerned with the center position - because I don't think we need a legend there. Just some serviceable guys who are willing to hit people. Get some more athleticism at OG and same with length at power forward.

Until we sign Dwight that is... 

[birdwatcher]

Also, I'm not as concerned with the center position - because I don't think we need a legend there. Just some serviceable guys who are willing to hit people. Get some more athleticism at OG and same with length at power forward.

Until we sign Dwight that is... 

I don't think we need a legend at the 5 either, but we do need someone who can play above the rim there.

[Cman]

Some nice ideas in this thread, and fun to think about given that Wyc has said he is willing to spend (but I'll believe it when I see it).

Here's my preferred "realistic" scenario:

First, I'm operating under the assumption that neither JO or Shaq retire, but that Shaq is basically done bc of injuries (both are under contract in any case).

Signings:
(1) sign Carl Landry to the MLE
(2) convince Jeff Foster to take the 2 year LLE
(3) sign Jeff Green to the QO
(4) resign Von Wafer and West (to what would be their salary last year + whatever % increase they are entitled to).

Rondo/West/Bradley
Ray/Wafer
Pierce/Green
KG/Landry
JO/Foster/(Shaq)

[homericepisode]

Some nice ideas in this thread, and fun to think about given that Wyc has said he is willing to spend (but I'll believe it when I see it).

Here's my preferred "realistic" scenario:

First, I'm operating under the assumption that neither JO or Shaq retire, but that Shaq is basically done bc of injuries (both are under contract in any case).

Signings:
(1) sign Carl Landry to the MLE
(2) convince Jeff Foster to take the 2 year LLE
(3) sign Jeff Green to the QO
(4) resign Von Wafer and West (to what would be their salary last year + whatever % increase they are entitled to).

Rondo/West/Bradley
Ray/Wafer
Pierce/Green
KG/Landry
JO/Foster/(Shaq)

but wasn't JO signed with the MLE?

[Cman]

Some nice ideas in this thread, and fun to think about given that Wyc has said he is willing to spend (but I'll believe it when I see it).

Here's my preferred "realistic" scenario:

First, I'm operating under the assumption that neither JO or Shaq retire, but that Shaq is basically done bc of injuries (both are under contract in any case).

Signings:
(1) sign Carl Landry to the MLE
(2) convince Jeff Foster to take the 2 year LLE
(3) sign Jeff Green to the QO
(4) resign Von Wafer and West (to what would be their salary last year + whatever % increase they are entitled to).

Rondo/West/Bradley
Ray/Wafer
Pierce/Green
KG/Landry
JO/Foster/(Shaq)

but wasn't JO signed with the MLE?

Yes, but it can be used again each year (unlike the LLE), at least according to current rules, which might change...

BTW, here's reason #2 I don't want the Cs to sign Kris Humphries:
http://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/thefamous/take-a-closer-look-at-kim-kardashians-engagement-ring/1367

[ScoobyDoo]

I Like that Cman. I think that "if healthy" that team can raise a banner. I thought if we were healthy this year, we would easily have raised one as well. We need some luck with injuries, it's not just our vets that are getting hit with them....

One question, what do we do with Krstic? Could we sign and trade him for something? Maybe Rudy Fernandez or Wesley Matthews from Portland. I doubt Portland lets Matthews go but I bet we could get Rudy for him. It would add more athleticism for us at the two spot, and Portland get a decent back up for the ever injured Oden...

JO / FOSTER / SHAQ
KG / LANDRY
PIERCE / GREEN
RAY / RUDY / WAFER
RONDO / WEST / BRADLEY

What about this? Portland has had obvious issues with Oden and they need a back up power forward for Aldridge...and yet they are still very competitive.

Re-signed Big Baby / JO's expiring or a re-signed Krstic
for
Oden and Rudy
* Risky for Portland but they've gotten nothing out of Oden. At least Krstic can get on the floor, they get some cap with JO and a back up for Aldridge in Baby.

* Risky for us because Oden might never see the court consistently in his career...

Boston:
JO or Nenad/Oden/Shaq/Semih or similar as Insurance
KG / Landry
Pierce / Green
Ray / Rudy / Wafer
Rondo /West / Bradley

Portland:
Krstic / Camby
Aldridge / Baby
Wallace / Batum
Matthews / Roy
Miller / Patty Mills

Portland basically gets two guys they can prove can stay on the court in Baby and Krstic and for them, Rudy is probably expendable with the emergence of Matthews...

If you can't do that bigger deal, I still like the Krstic for Rudy deal, especially if you are going add Foster or someone else...