What all-time records could Lebron have when he retires?

[nickagneta]

So in the CB Historical Draft our fellow CBer, Moranis, chose Lebron James with the 12th pick in the 1st round and got some mixed reaction. I happened to think that was a good pick at that spot but others, not so much. So it got me thinking.

If Lebron plays 12 more season and retires after his 20th season and maintains relatively very good health, what all-time records could he be looking to hold and could we be looking at him as one of the best players ever if not the best player ever based on his records?

Games - 1611 held by Robert Parish. LBJ has 627 in 8 years. Given the same pace of about 78 games a year that would leave Lebron about a half season short of the record. Would he return for a 21st year at 38 and 39 years old just to break the record?

Minutes Played - 57446 held by Karem Abdul Jabbar. LBJ has 25171. See above he might need one more year to accomplish this record.

Field goals made and attempted and points - He's about 40% of the way there on all three records and is only 26 having played 8 seasons. Could he maintain a career scoring average of about 27 PPG and pull these three huge records off?

Assists for a non-PG - held by Reggie Theus at 6453. Lebron should shatter this record and probably be amongst the top ten in career assists when all is said and done.

Free throws attempted and made - again he's over 40% of the way there already and it could be very close though with ten years of "Lebron rules" he could reach these before the end.

So, if Lebron James could attain all these career NBA records, where does that put him in comparison to his peers who attained them in a different era, for better or worse?

[CelticG1]

So in the CB Historical Draft our fellow CBer, Moranis, chose Lebron James with the 12th pick in the 1st round and got some mixed reaction. I happened to think that was a good pick at that spot but others, not so much. So it got me thinking.

If Lebron plays 12 more season and retires after his 20th season and maintains relatively very good health, what all-time records could he be looking to hold and could we be looking at him as one of the best players ever if not the best player ever based on his records?

Games - 1611 held by Robert Parish. LBJ has 627 in 8 years. Given the same pace of about 78 games a year that would leave Lebron about a half season short of the record. Would he return for a 21st year at 38 and 39 years old just to break the record?

Minutes Played - 57446 held by Karem Abdul Jabbar. LBJ has 25171. See above he might need one more year to accomplish this record.

Field goals made and attempted and points - He's about 40% of the way there on all three records and is only 26 having played 8 seasons. Could he maintain a career scoring average of about 27 PPG and pull these three huge records off?

Assists for a non-PG - held by Reggie Theus at 6453. Lebron should shatter this record and probably be amongst the top ten in career assists when all is said and done.

Free throws attempted and made - again he's over 40% of the way there already and it could be very close though with ten years of "Lebron rules" he could reach these before the end.

So, if Lebron James could attain all these career NBA records, where does that put him in comparison to his peers who attained them in a different era, for better or worse?

He can break A LOT of records and some of the biggest and prominent ones as well.

He does have the advantage of coming out of high school though where some of those guys, I'm not sure exactly for how long but stayed in College for at least a couple years. I'm sure Kareem could have done some damage if he came straight from high school in his first few years.

[Moranis]

So in the CB Historical Draft our fellow CBer, Moranis, chose Lebron James with the 12th pick in the 1st round and got some mixed reaction. I happened to think that was a good pick at that spot but others, not so much. So it got me thinking.

If Lebron plays 12 more season and retires after his 20th season and maintains relatively very good health, what all-time records could he be looking to hold and could we be looking at him as one of the best players ever if not the best player ever based on his records?

Games - 1611 held by Robert Parish. LBJ has 627 in 8 years. Given the same pace of about 78 games a year that would leave Lebron about a half season short of the record. Would he return for a 21st year at 38 and 39 years old just to break the record?

Minutes Played - 57446 held by Karem Abdul Jabbar. LBJ has 25171. See above he might need one more year to accomplish this record.

Field goals made and attempted and points - He's about 40% of the way there on all three records and is only 26 having played 8 seasons. Could he maintain a career scoring average of about 27 PPG and pull these three huge records off?

Assists for a non-PG - held by Reggie Theus at 6453. Lebron should shatter this record and probably be amongst the top ten in career assists when all is said and done.

Free throws attempted and made - again he's over 40% of the way there already and it could be very close though with ten years of "Lebron rules" he could reach these before the end.

So, if Lebron James could attain all these career NBA records, where does that put him in comparison to his peers who attained them in a different era, for better or worse?

He can break A LOT of records and some of the biggest and prominent ones as well.

He does have the advantage of coming out of high school though where some of those guys, I'm not sure exactly for how long but stayed in College for at least a couple years. I'm sure Kareem could have done some damage if he came straight from high school in his first few years.

I'm not actually sure how much of an advantage it is, as I firmly believe the body only has so many peak years.  Thus, if you strain the body earlier you lose years sooner and those years your body is more physically prepared and you are more experienced you miss out on.

[Eja117]

All time eye rolling?

All time greatest side kick

All time biggest d baggy way to announce a free agency decision

strangest commercials

worst tattoos.  That one will be hard but I definitely think he can do it.  That big huge Chose One on his back puts him in the top 3 by itself

biggest empty house in the Cleveland area...or maybe his mom lives in it. idk

All time gift calls by ref

All time money earned

[papa shuttlesworth]

Most tears?

[CelticG1]

So in the CB Historical Draft our fellow CBer, Moranis, chose Lebron James with the 12th pick in the 1st round and got some mixed reaction. I happened to think that was a good pick at that spot but others, not so much. So it got me thinking.

If Lebron plays 12 more season and retires after his 20th season and maintains relatively very good health, what all-time records could he be looking to hold and could we be looking at him as one of the best players ever if not the best player ever based on his records?

Games - 1611 held by Robert Parish. LBJ has 627 in 8 years. Given the same pace of about 78 games a year that would leave Lebron about a half season short of the record. Would he return for a 21st year at 38 and 39 years old just to break the record?

Minutes Played - 57446 held by Karem Abdul Jabbar. LBJ has 25171. See above he might need one more year to accomplish this record.

Field goals made and attempted and points - He's about 40% of the way there on all three records and is only 26 having played 8 seasons. Could he maintain a career scoring average of about 27 PPG and pull these three huge records off?

Assists for a non-PG - held by Reggie Theus at 6453. Lebron should shatter this record and probably be amongst the top ten in career assists when all is said and done.

Free throws attempted and made - again he's over 40% of the way there already and it could be very close though with ten years of "Lebron rules" he could reach these before the end.

So, if Lebron James could attain all these career NBA records, where does that put him in comparison to his peers who attained them in a different era, for better or worse?

He can break A LOT of records and some of the biggest and prominent ones as well.

He does have the advantage of coming out of high school though where some of those guys, I'm not sure exactly for how long but stayed in College for at least a couple years. I'm sure Kareem could have done some damage if he came straight from high school in his first few years.

I'm not actually sure how much of an advantage it is, as I firmly believe the body only has so many peak years.  Thus, if you strain the body earlier you lose years sooner and those years your body is more physically prepared and you are more experienced you miss out on.

Yeah I was thinking that too but still you'd have to think that peaking earlier say between 24-27 would be better than peaking later say 30-33. No?

[DavorCroatiaFan]

All-time most uncalled traveling violations...

[Moranis]

So in the CB Historical Draft our fellow CBer, Moranis, chose Lebron James with the 12th pick in the 1st round and got some mixed reaction. I happened to think that was a good pick at that spot but others, not so much. So it got me thinking.

If Lebron plays 12 more season and retires after his 20th season and maintains relatively very good health, what all-time records could he be looking to hold and could we be looking at him as one of the best players ever if not the best player ever based on his records?

Games - 1611 held by Robert Parish. LBJ has 627 in 8 years. Given the same pace of about 78 games a year that would leave Lebron about a half season short of the record. Would he return for a 21st year at 38 and 39 years old just to break the record?

Minutes Played - 57446 held by Karem Abdul Jabbar. LBJ has 25171. See above he might need one more year to accomplish this record.

Field goals made and attempted and points - He's about 40% of the way there on all three records and is only 26 having played 8 seasons. Could he maintain a career scoring average of about 27 PPG and pull these three huge records off?

Assists for a non-PG - held by Reggie Theus at 6453. Lebron should shatter this record and probably be amongst the top ten in career assists when all is said and done.

Free throws attempted and made - again he's over 40% of the way there already and it could be very close though with ten years of "Lebron rules" he could reach these before the end.

So, if Lebron James could attain all these career NBA records, where does that put him in comparison to his peers who attained them in a different era, for better or worse?

He can break A LOT of records and some of the biggest and prominent ones as well.

He does have the advantage of coming out of high school though where some of those guys, I'm not sure exactly for how long but stayed in College for at least a couple years. I'm sure Kareem could have done some damage if he came straight from high school in his first few years.

I'm not actually sure how much of an advantage it is, as I firmly believe the body only has so many peak years.  Thus, if you strain the body earlier you lose years sooner and those years your body is more physically prepared and you are more experienced you miss out on.

Yeah I was thinking that too but still you'd have to think that peaking earlier say between 24-27 would be better than peaking later say 30-33. No?

This isn't Tommy Boy, college isn't 6 years long.  I think you'd see the real difference in the first six years and the last six years of a career and not much change in the middle four years.  I believe the advantage of entering the league at 22 rather then 18 is greater then having the twilight of the career come at an earlier age.  I have no evidence to support that however and it is pure speculation.

And I would note that lebron is a once in a lifetime freak of nature, so I'm not sure it applies to him, but most of the other high schoolers took a long time to hit their peak or really make an impact.  Even KG took a few seasons to get going and guys like JO were non-factors for years.

[CelticG1]

So in the CB Historical Draft our fellow CBer, Moranis, chose Lebron James with the 12th pick in the 1st round and got some mixed reaction. I happened to think that was a good pick at that spot but others, not so much. So it got me thinking.

If Lebron plays 12 more season and retires after his 20th season and maintains relatively very good health, what all-time records could he be looking to hold and could we be looking at him as one of the best players ever if not the best player ever based on his records?

Games - 1611 held by Robert Parish. LBJ has 627 in 8 years. Given the same pace of about 78 games a year that would leave Lebron about a half season short of the record. Would he return for a 21st year at 38 and 39 years old just to break the record?

Minutes Played - 57446 held by Karem Abdul Jabbar. LBJ has 25171. See above he might need one more year to accomplish this record.

Field goals made and attempted and points - He's about 40% of the way there on all three records and is only 26 having played 8 seasons. Could he maintain a career scoring average of about 27 PPG and pull these three huge records off?

Assists for a non-PG - held by Reggie Theus at 6453. Lebron should shatter this record and probably be amongst the top ten in career assists when all is said and done.

Free throws attempted and made - again he's over 40% of the way there already and it could be very close though with ten years of "Lebron rules" he could reach these before the end.

So, if Lebron James could attain all these career NBA records, where does that put him in comparison to his peers who attained them in a different era, for better or worse?

He can break A LOT of records and some of the biggest and prominent ones as well.

He does have the advantage of coming out of high school though where some of those guys, I'm not sure exactly for how long but stayed in College for at least a couple years. I'm sure Kareem could have done some damage if he came straight from high school in his first few years.

I'm not actually sure how much of an advantage it is, as I firmly believe the body only has so many peak years.  Thus, if you strain the body earlier you lose years sooner and those years your body is more physically prepared and you are more experienced you miss out on.

Yeah I was thinking that too but still you'd have to think that peaking earlier say between 24-27 would be better than peaking later say 30-33. No?

This isn't Tommy Boy, college isn't 6 years long.  I think you'd see the real difference in the first six years and the last six years of a career and not much change in the middle four years.  I believe the advantage of entering the league at 22 rather then 18 is greater then having the twilight of the career come at an earlier age.  I have no evidence to support that however and it is pure speculation.

And I would note that lebron is a once in a lifetime freak of nature, so I'm not sure it applies to him, but most of the other high schoolers took a long time to hit their peak or really make an impact.  Even KG took a few seasons to get going and guys like JO were non-factors for years.

I don't really see your point. Are you saying that if KG came into the league later he would have been better or have better career statistics than now? I doubt that.

[BballTim]

So in the CB Historical Draft our fellow CBer, Moranis, chose Lebron James with the 12th pick in the 1st round and got some mixed reaction. I happened to think that was a good pick at that spot but others, not so much. So it got me thinking.

If Lebron plays 12 more season and retires after his 20th season and maintains relatively very good health, what all-time records could he be looking to hold and could we be looking at him as one of the best players ever if not the best player ever based on his records?

Games - 1611 held by Robert Parish. LBJ has 627 in 8 years. Given the same pace of about 78 games a year that would leave Lebron about a half season short of the record. Would he return for a 21st year at 38 and 39 years old just to break the record?

Minutes Played - 57446 held by Karem Abdul Jabbar. LBJ has 25171. See above he might need one more year to accomplish this record.

Field goals made and attempted and points - He's about 40% of the way there on all three records and is only 26 having played 8 seasons. Could he maintain a career scoring average of about 27 PPG and pull these three huge records off?

Assists for a non-PG - held by Reggie Theus at 6453. Lebron should shatter this record and probably be amongst the top ten in career assists when all is said and done.

Free throws attempted and made - again he's over 40% of the way there already and it could be very close though with ten years of "Lebron rules" he could reach these before the end.

So, if Lebron James could attain all these career NBA records, where does that put him in comparison to his peers who attained them in a different era, for better or worse?

  Are you assuming his stats in his mid 30s will duplicate his stats in his mid 20s? I don't see that happening.

[Army_of_One_Nation]

All-time most uncalled traveling violations...

Agree 100%! TP for you.

[Anomandaris]

I don't care.

Maybe if he was a Celtic, i would be curious but i couldn't care less what stats some non-Celtic player is racking up or will end up with.

[Moranis]

So in the CB Historical Draft our fellow CBer, Moranis, chose Lebron James with the 12th pick in the 1st round and got some mixed reaction. I happened to think that was a good pick at that spot but others, not so much. So it got me thinking.

If Lebron plays 12 more season and retires after his 20th season and maintains relatively very good health, what all-time records could he be looking to hold and could we be looking at him as one of the best players ever if not the best player ever based on his records?

Games - 1611 held by Robert Parish. LBJ has 627 in 8 years. Given the same pace of about 78 games a year that would leave Lebron about a half season short of the record. Would he return for a 21st year at 38 and 39 years old just to break the record?

Minutes Played - 57446 held by Karem Abdul Jabbar. LBJ has 25171. See above he might need one more year to accomplish this record.

Field goals made and attempted and points - He's about 40% of the way there on all three records and is only 26 having played 8 seasons. Could he maintain a career scoring average of about 27 PPG and pull these three huge records off?

Assists for a non-PG - held by Reggie Theus at 6453. Lebron should shatter this record and probably be amongst the top ten in career assists when all is said and done.

Free throws attempted and made - again he's over 40% of the way there already and it could be very close though with ten years of "Lebron rules" he could reach these before the end.

So, if Lebron James could attain all these career NBA records, where does that put him in comparison to his peers who attained them in a different era, for better or worse?

He can break A LOT of records and some of the biggest and prominent ones as well.

He does have the advantage of coming out of high school though where some of those guys, I'm not sure exactly for how long but stayed in College for at least a couple years. I'm sure Kareem could have done some damage if he came straight from high school in his first few years.

I'm not actually sure how much of an advantage it is, as I firmly believe the body only has so many peak years.  Thus, if you strain the body earlier you lose years sooner and those years your body is more physically prepared and you are more experienced you miss out on.

Yeah I was thinking that too but still you'd have to think that peaking earlier say between 24-27 would be better than peaking later say 30-33. No?

This isn't Tommy Boy, college isn't 6 years long.  I think you'd see the real difference in the first six years and the last six years of a career and not much change in the middle four years.  I believe the advantage of entering the league at 22 rather then 18 is greater then having the twilight of the career come at an earlier age.  I have no evidence to support that however and it is pure speculation.

And I would note that lebron is a once in a lifetime freak of nature, so I'm not sure it applies to him, but most of the other high schoolers took a long time to hit their peak or really make an impact.  Even KG took a few seasons to get going and guys like JO were non-factors for years.

I don't really see your point. Are you saying that if KG came into the league later he would have been better or have better career statistics than now? I doubt that.

I'm saying that KG's first few seasons would have been better had he gone to college.  He still would have had the same peak, it just would have come at an older age and also that KG would have more legs under him now.  KG entered the league as a tall incredibly lanky SF, but had he gone to college he already would have packed on a fair amount of muscle and would have entered the league much more like the player he was in his prime.  It isn't a coincidence that KG's career lows in PPG, RPG, APG, MPG were in his rookie year.  He physically wasn't ready for the league.

[nickagneta]

So in the CB Historical Draft our fellow CBer, Moranis, chose Lebron James with the 12th pick in the 1st round and got some mixed reaction. I happened to think that was a good pick at that spot but others, not so much. So it got me thinking.

If Lebron plays 12 more season and retires after his 20th season and maintains relatively very good health, what all-time records could he be looking to hold and could we be looking at him as one of the best players ever if not the best player ever based on his records?

Games - 1611 held by Robert Parish. LBJ has 627 in 8 years. Given the same pace of about 78 games a year that would leave Lebron about a half season short of the record. Would he return for a 21st year at 38 and 39 years old just to break the record?

Minutes Played - 57446 held by Karem Abdul Jabbar. LBJ has 25171. See above he might need one more year to accomplish this record.

Field goals made and attempted and points - He's about 40% of the way there on all three records and is only 26 having played 8 seasons. Could he maintain a career scoring average of about 27 PPG and pull these three huge records off?

Assists for a non-PG - held by Reggie Theus at 6453. Lebron should shatter this record and probably be amongst the top ten in career assists when all is said and done.

Free throws attempted and made - again he's over 40% of the way there already and it could be very close though with ten years of "Lebron rules" he could reach these before the end.

So, if Lebron James could attain all these career NBA records, where does that put him in comparison to his peers who attained them in a different era, for better or worse?

  Are you assuming his stats in his mid 30s will duplicate his stats in his mid 20s? I don't see that happening.

MJ's and Kobe's stats didn't really trail off much. I don't see why it can't be assumed that Lebron, who is every much a freak of athletic nature as they are couldn't produce consistently into his mid 30's

[CelticG1]

So in the CB Historical Draft our fellow CBer, Moranis, chose Lebron James with the 12th pick in the 1st round and got some mixed reaction. I happened to think that was a good pick at that spot but others, not so much. So it got me thinking.

If Lebron plays 12 more season and retires after his 20th season and maintains relatively very good health, what all-time records could he be looking to hold and could we be looking at him as one of the best players ever if not the best player ever based on his records?

Games - 1611 held by Robert Parish. LBJ has 627 in 8 years. Given the same pace of about 78 games a year that would leave Lebron about a half season short of the record. Would he return for a 21st year at 38 and 39 years old just to break the record?

Minutes Played - 57446 held by Karem Abdul Jabbar. LBJ has 25171. See above he might need one more year to accomplish this record.

Field goals made and attempted and points - He's about 40% of the way there on all three records and is only 26 having played 8 seasons. Could he maintain a career scoring average of about 27 PPG and pull these three huge records off?

Assists for a non-PG - held by Reggie Theus at 6453. Lebron should shatter this record and probably be amongst the top ten in career assists when all is said and done.

Free throws attempted and made - again he's over 40% of the way there already and it could be very close though with ten years of "Lebron rules" he could reach these before the end.

So, if Lebron James could attain all these career NBA records, where does that put him in comparison to his peers who attained them in a different era, for better or worse?

  Are you assuming his stats in his mid 30s will duplicate his stats in his mid 20s? I don't see that happening.

MJ's and Kobe's stats didn't really trail off much. I don't see why it can't be assumed that Lebron, who is every much a freak of athletic nature as they are couldn't produce consistently into his mid 30's

Kobe's first few years in the league weren't the same as James and as for Jordan he started in the league after a few years of college as well. James was playing 40 minutes a game for 80 games when he was 18. You'd have to think that's going to catch up to him somewhat. I just don't see him maintaining that 78 games a year thing. Not the way he plays