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Jordan Williams
« on: May 22, 2011, 12:13:47 AM »

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I see a lot of mocks have us taking Jordan Williams and people here seem to like him.  I go to Maryland and I've seen every game he's played in college.  While I love the guy and I'd love to have a Terp on the Celtics, he definitely has some serious limitations.  Here's my take on Jordan:

Strengths: He's a great rebounder; he has really good hands, boxes out well, and he just knows where to be.  He also hustles and really crashes the boards hard.  His touch around the basket is good, and his post moves, though far from refined, have come along nicely.  He loves posting up on the left block, spinning baseline and then either going right up for the layup or doing an up and under for a reverse layup.  He'll occasionally drop a nice jump hook or turnaround jumper, but those are rare.  In terms of his build, he's not that tall(more on that in a second) but he has broad shoulders and could become a real beast with some time in the weight room.  Jordan also is a hard worker; he went from an unheralded recruit to a freshman starter to a star in the ACC as a sophomore.  If Maryland had a better team he would have gotten a lot more attention.  If he fails, it definitely won't be for lack of effort or bad character; he really improved his game and body during his time in College Park, and no one has a bad work to say about him as a person.

Weaknesses: He's really limited as an athlete.  He's not going to dunk on anyone's head or make plays above the rim, in fact the only dunks I've seen from him are on fast breaks.  Defensively he's OK in terms of positioning, but he's not a good shot blocker at all because of his lack of athleticism and height.  He's listed at 6'10" but I think he's more in the 6'8" to 6'9" range.  Right now he also has a little excess body fat.  However, he really slimmed down from his freshman year to his sophomore year, so I think that trend will continue into the pros which should help his athleticism.  Offensively, he's pretty limited.  Besides putbacks, fast break dunks, and the aforementioned baseline move, he really doesn't have much of an offensive repertoire.  He has no range outside 5 feet and he's a HORRIBLE free throw shooter.  Right now in the NBA he'd have a very hard time scoring since hes not athletic and he can't use his size to bully people like he did in college.

Overall I think Jordan would be a solid pick this late in the draft.  At worst he'll be a good rebounder who's a liability outside of that one skill (like a Reggie Evans type).  If he develops his post moves and/or mid-range jumper, he could be a pretty good player, like a poor man's Carlos Boozer or Paul Millsap.  He has some work to do before he's a viable NBA rotation player, but the potential is there and I think he has the right attitude. 

Re: Jordan Williams
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2011, 12:37:05 AM »

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That's great input, thanks for that. Here's a recent video of him that you may find interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnG6MYsjmpE&feature=channel_video_title

Which other prospects do you think we should target with the 25th pick? I would say Jajuan Johnson, Jeremy Tyler, Jordan Williams, or Chris Singleton. Singleton will probably be long gone by 25 but I think he would be a great fit on our team. Also I would love to have Biyombo on this team but unfortunately I don't see that happening.
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Re: Jordan Williams
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2011, 01:36:47 AM »

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He kinda reminds me of a stronger, less athletic Trevor Booker

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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2011, 02:07:16 AM »

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That's great input, thanks for that. Here's a recent video of him that you may find interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnG6MYsjmpE&feature=channel_video_title

Which other prospects do you think we should target with the 25th pick? I would say Jajuan Johnson, Jeremy Tyler, Jordan Williams, or Chris Singleton. Singleton will probably be long gone by 25 but I think he would be a great fit on our team. Also I would love to have Biyombo on this team but unfortunately I don't see that happening.
i like what i see from the big fella very finess can put it on the floor and got a sweet jumper i would take him wit the 25th if hes there. we still need an athletic shotblocker in the second round, any suggestions? i like keith benson but hes too skinny

Re: Jordan Williams
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2011, 03:55:40 AM »

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He's 6'7.75" without shoes and slow, but otherwise fine.

Re: Jordan Williams
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2011, 06:41:12 PM »

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Sounds like a less athletic Brian Skinner.
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Re: Jordan Williams
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2011, 08:51:17 AM »

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Sounds like a less athletic Brian Skinner.

Sean May would be a better comparison I think.  Sean May could have been a good NBA player, but he couldn't control his weight.  The same will be with Williams.  If he controls his weight I think he can be an effective player, if not he could be out of the league in 3 years.
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Re: Jordan Williams
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2011, 09:13:10 AM »

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Dude measured 6'9 in shoes with 12% body fat at the combine.

There were some articles there that were trying to sell him as 6'8.75 barefoot (6'10 in shoes), and claimed he lost weight and trimmed down to 8% body fat.

I am not particularly excited about this pick. No offensive skills, and he will struggle defensively because of his size. I think we can do better at 25.
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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2011, 09:25:13 AM »

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Dude measured 6'9 in shoes with 12% body fat at the combine.

There were some articles there that were trying to sell him as 6'8.75 barefoot (6'10 in shoes), and claimed he lost weight and trimmed down to 8% body fat.

I am not particularly excited about this pick. No offensive skills, and he will struggle defensively because of his size. I think we can do better at 25.

I agree, though the body fat alone isn't an insurmountable issue--size and ability make him someone Danny would happily take late in the second round, but not in the first, I think.

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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2011, 09:26:18 AM »

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Dude measured 6'9 in shoes with 12% body fat at the combine.

There were some articles there that were trying to sell him as 6'8.75 barefoot (6'10 in shoes), and claimed he lost weight and trimmed down to 8% body fat.

I am not particularly excited about this pick. No offensive skills, and he will struggle defensively because of his size. I think we can do better at 25.

Well, the 12% is him losing weight, but I do agree with you.  I'd rather have Jeremy Tyler, yes his body fat % is similar but he's got a little bit more size.  
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« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2011, 10:08:57 AM »

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Dude measured 6'9 in shoes with 12% body fat at the combine.

There were some articles there that were trying to sell him as 6'8.75 barefoot (6'10 in shoes), and claimed he lost weight and trimmed down to 8% body fat.

I am not particularly excited about this pick. No offensive skills, and he will struggle defensively because of his size. I think we can do better at 25.

Well, the 12% is him losing weight, but I do agree with you.  I'd rather have Jeremy Tyler, yes his body fat % is similar but he's got a little bit more size.  
I'd take someone like Jeremy Tyler with our second round pick.
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« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2011, 10:51:14 AM »

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We need someone who can protect the paint on defense and rebound near or above the rim not a 6'9" center with slow feet.  He reminds me of Sean May with worse hands and shooting ability.  Basically a 10th man on any good team in the NBA. 

I would rather trade the pick and re-sign Big Baby with the money vs. draft an undersized project center. 

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« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2011, 12:50:54 PM »

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Dude measured 6'9 in shoes with 12% body fat at the combine.

There were some articles there that were trying to sell him as 6'8.75 barefoot (6'10 in shoes), and claimed he lost weight and trimmed down to 8% body fat.

I am not particularly excited about this pick. No offensive skills, and he will struggle defensively because of his size. I think we can do better at 25.

Well, the 12% is him losing weight, but I do agree with you.  I'd rather have Jeremy Tyler, yes his body fat % is similar but he's got a little bit more size.  
I'd take someone like Jeremy Tyler with our second round pick.

He'll be long gone.  He could even be gone before we pick at 25.  His size and athleticism have teams drooling, especially with it being a weak draft.  He really impressed at the combine as well.
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« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2011, 02:24:08 PM »

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I have little to no knowledge or familiarity with the prospects in the this draft, but considering Jordan Williams nba comparison is Kendrick Perkins his size & height should be a concern. Think about it where would Perk be if he was BBD's height? I'd pass on Williams with the 25th and I'd assume Danny would as well.

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« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2011, 02:26:21 PM »

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I have little to no knowledge or familiarity with the prospects in the this draft, but considering Jordan Williams nba comparison is Kendrick Perkins his size & height should be a concern. Think about it where would Perk be if he was BBD's height? I'd pass on Williams with the 25th and I'd assume Danny would as well.

I don't think his comparison is Perkins at all.  I think his name has been thrown out there because of the C's connection, but their games are not very similar.

I think the Sean May comparisons are a lot closer.  And, had May been able to control his weight, he could have been a very good player.