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Re: What will the Cavs do with the LBJ exception and the two picks
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2011, 12:49:45 PM »

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Gilbert has shown he is willing to take risks and take on additional payroll in order to improve the Cavs. He could carve up that exception bit by bit like Sam Presti did with the Sonics/Thunder, using it to leverage draft picks from teams desperate to drop payroll.

Yes, this is what I expect them to do with the trade exception.


I also wonder whether he might be able to persuade Minnesota to drop down from #2 to #4, assuming that Minnesota really wants Kanter and not Williams.

That would be a great move by Cleveland.

Kyrie Irving and Derrick Williams would be quite the haul ... especially from a draft as weak as this.

What might the price tag for #2 be? Minnesota really doesn't need any cap help. Would Cleveland have to add a 2012 pick to move up from #4?

Minnesota does not have a 2012 pick.
They have a couple of first rounders from Miami from the LeBron James sign and trade.

Assuming Minny want Kanter or Biyombo more than they want Derrick Williams + assuming that player drops past Utah ... I imagine they'd package one or both of those to make it happen. Maybe they include a low level young player too. Erden or someone like that.
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Re: What will the Cavs do with the LBJ exception and the two picks
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2011, 12:53:04 PM »

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Gilbert has shown he is willing to take risks and take on additional payroll in order to improve the Cavs. He could carve up that exception bit by bit like Sam Presti did with the Sonics/Thunder, using it to leverage draft picks from teams desperate to drop payroll.

Yes, this is what I expect them to do with the trade exception.


I also wonder whether he might be able to persuade Minnesota to drop down from #2 to #4, assuming that Minnesota really wants Kanter and not Williams.

That would be a great move by Cleveland.

Kyrie Irving and Derrick Williams would be quite the haul ... especially from a draft as weak as this.

What might the price tag for #2 be? Minnesota really doesn't need any cap help. Would Cleveland have to add a 2012 pick to move up from #4?

Minnesota does not have a 2012 pick.
They have a couple of first rounders from Miami from the LeBron James sign and trade.

Assuming Minny want Kanter or Biyombo more than they want Derrick Williams + assuming that play drops past Utah ... I imagine they'd package one or both of those to make it happen. Maybe they include a low level young player too. Erden or someone like that.

Yes, 2013 and 2015 1sts from Miami. I'd give either of those up in a heartbeat to move up to #2 if I were Gilbert.
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Re: What will the Cavs do with the LBJ exception and the two picks
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2011, 12:53:45 PM »

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Just for fun, if you were Cleveland, would you give up the #1 pick and Varajao for Rondo?  Would you do that if you were Boston?

I'd do it if I were Boston, but not if I were Cleveland.

Actually, maybe I don't do it either way.
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Re: What will the Cavs do with the LBJ exception and the two picks
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2011, 12:55:02 PM »

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Just for fun, if you were Cleveland, would you give up the #1 pick and Varajao for Rondo?  Would you do that if you were Boston?


I probably would make that trade if I'm Danny Ainge.  Gives the C's a nice young banger to compliment KG and a PG of the future (have West start next year while you work Irving in). 

Yes if Irving proves to be healthy in the combine. But no way the Cavs do that deal.

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Re: What will the Cavs do with the LBJ exception and the two picks
« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2011, 12:56:13 PM »

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Just for fun, if you were Cleveland, would you give up the #1 pick and Varajao for Rondo?  Would you do that if you were Boston?



I'd go with the rare double-no

Re: What will the Cavs do with the LBJ exception and the two picks
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2011, 12:57:46 PM »

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I'd be interested to see what the Cavs can get for Ramon Sessions. Pretty nice backup PG, could start for some teams.

Re: What will the Cavs do with the LBJ exception and the two picks
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2011, 12:58:45 PM »

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Just for fun, if you were Cleveland would you trade Varejao for Jermaine O'Neal, a 2011 Boston 1st, and the rights to the Clips' 2012 1st? If you were Boston?
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Re: What will the Cavs do with the LBJ exception and the two picks
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2011, 12:59:36 PM »

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I'd be interested to see what the Cavs can get for Ramon Sessions. Pretty nice backup PG, could start for some teams.
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Re: What will the Cavs do with the LBJ exception and the two picks
« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2011, 01:03:48 PM »

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Just for fun, if you were Cleveland would you trade Varejao for Jermaine O'Neal, a 2011 Boston 1st, and the rights to the Clips' 2012 1st? If you were Boston?

Cleveland does it in a heartbeat.

Boston hesitantly says no.

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« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2011, 01:28:38 PM »

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Interesting. Chad Ford is saying "don't be surprised if Kahn trades the [#2] pick" for veteran help.
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« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2011, 01:29:18 PM »

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Just for fun, if you were Cleveland would you trade Varejao for Jermaine O'Neal, a 2011 Boston 1st, and the rights to the Clips' 2012 1st? If you were Boston?

Cleveland does it in a heartbeat.

Boston hesitantly says no.

Personally I love Varejao as a play, but im not gonna get on board with any move that locks up complementary players for our future before wer know who the core will be.
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« Reply #26 on: May 18, 2011, 03:08:40 PM »

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Just for fun, if you were Cleveland, would you give up the #1 pick and Varajao for Rondo?  Would you do that if you were Boston?



Not in this horrible draft.

Re: What will the Cavs do with the LBJ exception and the two picks
« Reply #27 on: May 18, 2011, 03:09:42 PM »

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Interesting. Chad Ford is saying "don't be surprised if Kahn trades the [#2] pick" for veteran help.

S&T Glen Davis along with the 25th pick for the 2nd pick and a trade exception?

Kahn is REALLY dumb.

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« Reply #28 on: May 18, 2011, 05:19:32 PM »

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I guess I just have no idea what the market for Rudy Gay is.  He is a great scorer no doubt, but he does have a lot of money left and Memphis nearly made the WCF without him making him a bit expendable on their end.

Rudy Gay has one of the worst contracts out there.  A smart GM won't take on that deal without receiving compensation from Memphis, probably in the form of draft picks.
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