Author Topic: BOS/NOH/ORL Trade (legitmate?) (trade idea) (Read 4038 times)

KGs Knee · « **on:** May 16, 2011, 11:10:44 AM »

First off: there are numerous threads related to such topics, but, I do believe the scenario I propose would service all teams involved needs. Furthermore, I am rather reluctant to specualte on a trade involving Rondo, considering: he's good, won a title with the team, a true warrior who will play through pain, and my GF would kill me for mentioning it (I swear she loves Rondo almost a little too much).

That being said, I feel if we got these players we would be right back as one of the elite teams going foward. A big move like this may just what we need to reinvigorate the Big"old"3, and may be our only hope for getting players of this caliber.

Proposed Trade

Boston
sends: Rondo-10m
   Allen-10m*
   Green(S&T)-7m
   J.ONeal-6m*
   2011 1st Rd (rights)
   2012 1st Rd (via LAC)
   2012 1st Rd
   2013 2nd Rd
   2014 1st Rd
gets: Howard-18m
   Paul-16m
   Ariza-7m

New Orleans
sends: Paul-16m
   Okafor-12m
   West-9m
   Ariza-7m
   2011 1st Rd
gets: Rondo-10m
   Allen-10m*
   Green-7m
   J.ONeal-6m*
   Bass-5m
   2011 1st Rd (Orlando)
   2012 2nd Rd (Boston)
Orlando
sends: Howard-18m
   Bass-5m
gets: Okafor-12m
   West-9m
   2011 1st Rd (rights from Boston)
   2011 1st Rd (New Orleans)
   2012 1st Rd (Boston via LAC)
   2012 1st Rd (Boston)
   2013 2nd Rd (Boston)
   2014 1st Rd (Boston)
   2014 2nd Rd (Boston)

*- denotes buyout agreement (value may be less)

CelticsGuy34 · « **Reply #1 on:** May 16, 2011, 11:16:29 AM »

sign me up our roster would look like this

Chris Paul
Ray Allen
Paul Pierce
Kevin Garnett
Dwight Howard

that team litterally has a chance to win 75 games next season

Dwight Howard cures every problem the celtics have downlow, Him being the best rebounder in the league and the best defender

pair him with KG who is probably the second best low post defender would make it very hard to drive on the celtics

Chris paul cures every problem they have on the perimeter because Cp3 can shoot the ball, he is a top 3 pg

Celtics would be the favorites to win the championship for the next 5 years at least

KGs Knee · « **Reply #2 on:** May 16, 2011, 11:27:51 AM »

Ok, my reasons for the trade are such:

For Boston: Obvious, we'd be legit with 2 superstars in their prime, a HOF Big 3 in their twilight, and 2 role players in their prime (Ariza, Delonte), and we'dd still have our MLE.

For New Orleans: They're losing Paul anyways, so get they get Rondo & Green and dump the contracts of Okafor, West, and Ariza.

For Orlando: They need something like this. They are in a cap nightmare for the next 3-4 years. They are also in decline as a team. Okafor and West combined with numerous picks will keep them afloat until they are out of cap prison. In time they may be able to move some of their contracts, but nobody is taking any of them right now. Howard can leave for nothing if Orlando isn't careful.

This trade would need to be done after this years draft, before the season starts. Allen and JO could also be bought out, potentially saving New Orleans more money, and would be almost nessecary for Boston.

Note: Completely depnadant on structure of new CBA

gpap · « **Reply #3 on:** May 16, 2011, 11:28:22 AM »

Believe me, if this trade ever happened, I would be celebrating like it's 1999!

Would NOH and ORL do it? Very doubtful

KGs Knee · « **Reply #4 on:** May 16, 2011, 11:51:26 AM »

Quote from: gpap on May 16, 2011, 11:28:22 AM

Believe me, if this trade ever happened, I would be celebrating like it's 1999!

1999 was a good year

Prom night(1sT),graduated High School, moved out to go to school in Phoenix, Pierce's rookie season, and many others.

Spilling Green Dye · « **Reply #5 on:** May 16, 2011, 12:00:38 PM »

While clicking on this thread I thought "if its a deal where we end up with the 2 best players in the deal, it isn't happening."

But after taking a look at it, it seems rather feasible. And its that fact alone that has me excited. Unlikely, but feasible! I would specifically buy a $100+ bottle of champagne and pop it that night to celebrate knowing the Celtics would at least be good/very good for years to come.

btw Celticsguy34, according to the trade Ray Allen would no longer be on the team. I'm totally fine with that too if the trade nets CP3&Howard!

KGs Knee · « **Reply #6 on:** May 16, 2011, 12:04:11 PM »

Quote from: Spilling Green Dye on May 16, 2011, 12:00:38 PM

While clicking on this thread I thought "if its a deal where we end up with the 2 best players in the deal, it isn't happening."

But after taking a look at it, it seems rather feasible. And its that fact alone that has me excited. Unlikely, but feasible! I would specifically buy a $100+ bottle of champagne and pop it that night to celebrate knowing the Celtics would at least be good/very good for years to come.

btw Celticsguy34, according to the trade Ray Allen would no longer be on the team. I'm totally fine with that too if the trade nets CP3&Howard!

Ray Allen would need to accept a buyout to come back as would (hopefully) JO, in order to save cash thrifty New Orleans even more money (total in excess of 22m) as well as, bolster Boston and satisfy vets who would otherwise retire.

GreenEnvy · « **Reply #7 on:** May 16, 2011, 12:04:27 PM »

I get it for Boston. I get it for New Orleans. But I just don't get it for Orlando. You really think they can't do a lot better than a whole bunch of late picks and a couple of undersized, overpaid, injury-prone bigs?

But with Otis Smith, anything is possible.

Roy H. · « **Reply #8 on:** May 16, 2011, 12:08:40 PM »

Quote from: GreenEnvy on May 16, 2011, 12:04:27 PM

I get it for Boston. I get it for New Orleans. But I just don't get it for Orlando. You really think they can't do a lot better than a whole bunch of late picks and a couple of undersized, overpaid, injury-prone bigs?

But with Otis Smith, anything is possible.

I agree. We've heard potential packages centered around Andrew Bynum or a combination of Gasol / Odom from LA, or Brook Lopez from NJ. I don't think we can compete.

I think it was Hollinger who proposed this deal. I think that one is a little more realistic in terms of what it might take to get Howard, although the Lakers are probably giving up too much.

Moranis · « **Reply #9 on:** May 16, 2011, 12:15:23 PM »

I don't believe you are allowed to trade your own first round pick in consecutive years.

KGs Knee · « **Reply #10 on:** May 16, 2011, 12:19:08 PM »

Quote from: Roy H. on May 16, 2011, 12:08:40 PM

Quote from: GreenEnvy on May 16, 2011, 12:04:27 PM
I get it for Boston. I get it for New Orleans. But I just don't get it for Orlando. You really think they can't do a lot better than a whole bunch of late picks and a couple of undersized, overpaid, injury-prone bigs?

But with Otis Smith, anything is possible.

I agree. We've heard potential packages centered around Andrew Bynum or a combination of Gasol / Odom from LA, or Brook Lopez from NJ. I don't think we can compete.

I think it was Hollinger who proposed this deal. I think that one is a little more realistic in terms of what it might take to get Howard, although the Lakers are probably giving up too much.

Yes, Orlando could get better players possibly, but good enought o make a difference. The East is loaded right now going forward. Chi/Mia/Bos?/NYK?, if Orlando gets a boarderline elite player they're in trouble. They'll be good enough to compete for a potential playoff spot, but never a contender. Nobody is trading a TRUE superstar for Dwight with him set to leave a team with no hope at all.
Bynum, Gasol & Odom, and most other players I have heard rumored are not enough to really compete. Orlando needs to realize they MUST blow it up and get bad soon. Having contracts line up to expire while building draft picks is a sound strategy in my opinion. In that regard, New Orleans might have to throw a pick or two to Orlando.

PosImpos · « **Reply #11 on:** May 16, 2011, 12:22:33 PM »

Quote from: Moranis on May 16, 2011, 12:15:23 PM

I don't believe you are allowed to trade your own first round pick in consecutive years.

Indeed.

As others have said, I think CP3 is a possibility, but we can't really approach an offer for Dwight Howard.

I think we'd have a better chance of trading for CP3 and Okafor and competing that way.

KGs Knee · « **Reply #12 on:** May 16, 2011, 12:25:01 PM »

Quote from: PosImpos on May 16, 2011, 12:22:33 PM

Quote from: Moranis on May 16, 2011, 12:15:23 PM
I don't believe you are allowed to trade your own first round pick in consecutive years.

Indeed.

As others have said, I think CP3 is a possibility, but we can't really approach an offer for Dwight Howard.

I think we'd have a better chance of trading for CP3 and Okafor and competing that way.

I believe, if the trade is a draft day agreement, consumated afterwards, you are then allowed to trade your upcoming 1st pick.

Edit: The Celtics did this to get Allen and Garnett. They just traded the 1st's to different teams in seperate trades.

Army_of_One_Nation · « **Reply #13 on:** May 16, 2011, 05:49:29 PM »

Quote from: KGs Knee on May 16, 2011, 11:51:26 AM

Quote from: gpap on May 16, 2011, 11:28:22 AM
Believe me, if this trade ever happened, I would be celebrating like it's 1999!

1999 was a good year

Prom night(1sT),graduated High School, moved out to go to school in Phoenix, Pierce's rookie season, and many others.

Wasn't good for the Celtics because their 1st round draft pick was traded to Cleveland for Potapenko. They could have taken Shawn Marion, Andre Miller or gasp.......James Posey!

brainpower · « **Reply #14 on:** May 21, 2011, 01:22:29 PM »

I know this is an idea that a lot of people are talking about, but Danny has already said he doesn't want to trade Rondo. I believe him, and agree with him... Rondo and Paul are both elite point guards, it just seems silly to trade one for the other (even if one is a better shooter).

I would love for us to keep Rondo and get Dwight, but I think Orlando is going to want more than draft picks...

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