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sign and trade davis to pistons
« on: May 16, 2011, 09:36:26 AM »

Offline jc3celticsphan

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Since glen davis wants to be a starter and pistons were previously interested in glen davis I see the pistons as a good trade partner. Since detroit is in rebuild mode they will take expiring contracts. How bout big baby and JO for rip hamilton and ben wallace plus we stay with our MLE

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Re: sign and trade davis to pistons
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2011, 09:41:08 AM »

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The problem is Hamilton's contract; he's owed $12.5 million next year, and at least $9 million the year after.  That's a pretty bad contract, especially since the team seemingly wants cap space in 2012.


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Re: sign and trade davis to pistons
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2011, 09:43:15 AM »

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any trade that keeps glen davis away from boston is ok by me.  maybe detroit will give us peanuts. 

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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2011, 09:50:11 AM »

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The problem is Hamilton's contract; he's owed $12.5 million next year, and at least $9 million the year after.  That's a pretty bad contract, especially since the team seemingly wants cap space in 2012.

Yeah, I agree, Hamilton's contract is a no-go.  He also does not bring the young legs this team will likely be looking for, particularly if they are going to be breaking the bank. 

If Detroit really were still interested in Davis (which I am skeptical about) I would be much more interested in someone like Gordon (who I think is underrated right now, and will thrive playing next to a real PG again), or maybe Maxiell (basically what a lot of us want Davis to be).

Both of them would be on the books in 2012, but they are at least guys who I could see being decent pieces to have on the team going forward, and guys who could play well with Rondo.

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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2011, 09:51:05 AM »

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The problem is Hamilton's contract; he's owed $12.5 million next year, and at least $9 million the year after.  That's a pretty bad contract, especially since the team seemingly wants cap space in 2012.
yeah that's true we can also go after maxiell he expires in 2012 and probly keep JO and his contract we could use for another trade or see if he wants to play one more year.

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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2011, 10:32:35 AM »

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A lot of people have the Pistons taking Tristan Thompson in the draft.  If that's the case, I don't think they'd be interested in Davis.  They have young guys in Monroe and Daye there already who need minutes, I don't think you'll see them focusing on bigs in free agency.
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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2011, 10:55:01 AM »

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Realistically any trade where we get something for Glen Davis is a good one. Even if we just get a conditional second and a trade exception.

He's an unrestricted free agent so he can leave for nothing.
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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2011, 10:59:23 AM »

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any trade that keeps glen davis away from boston is ok by me.  maybe detroit will give us peanuts. 

I'll accept any flavor of peanuts too (honey roasted would be preferable though). 

If I wanted to watch a bench player take tons of shots and play starter minutes then I'd go back and watch the Celtics around 2006. 

I just don't see a S&T working out with Davis though.  We have absolutely no leverage in the deal, and in fact I think we're at a disadvantage b/c we can't guarantee him a starting role. 

Like Evantime said, it'd be amazing if we could get anything for his departure.

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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2011, 11:07:15 AM »

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I rather get Kwame Brown or Jason Maxiell. Ben Wallace is a little too old to me

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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2011, 11:39:24 AM »

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I think a S & T of Baby and our 1st rd pick (#25) for Charlotte's two First rd picks (#9 and #19) is more likely.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/05/14/2297418/bobcats-gm-we-will-get-this-right.html

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Assuming the Bobcats don't move up in the draft lottery, Higgins said he's open to exploring trade possibilities.

That could include looking to package Nos. 9 and 19 for one high pick or trading one of the two first-rounders for a young veteran.

The Bobcats have shown interest in Baby in the past, and according to reports nearly dealt Agustin for Davis last season.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/13010/celtics-bobcats-in-trade-talks

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The Boston Celtics and Charlotte Bobcats are discussing a trade centered around Glen "Big Baby'' Davis and D.J. Augustin, according to league sources.

The sources cautioned that nothing is imminent, but said the clubs are having discussions.

The Bobcats have been searching for a power forward, and the 6-9 Davis could be their man. The Celtics, meanwhile, have been longing for a backup point guard, and Augustin, who's fallen out of favor with Charlotte coach Larry Brown, would be more than adequate.

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« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2011, 11:49:51 AM »

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Realistically any trade where we get something for Glen Davis is a good one. Even if we just get a conditional second and a trade exception.

He's an unrestricted free agent so he can leave for nothing.
Not any trade. Picking up a bad contract can be worse than being left with nothing.

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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2011, 11:51:18 AM »

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I think a S & T of Baby and our 1st rd pick (#25) for Charlotte's two First rd picks (#9 and #19) is more likely.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/05/14/2297418/bobcats-gm-we-will-get-this-right.html

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Assuming the Bobcats don't move up in the draft lottery, Higgins said he's open to exploring trade possibilities.

That could include looking to package Nos. 9 and 19 for one high pick or trading one of the two first-rounders for a young veteran.

The Bobcats have shown interest in Baby in the past, and according to reports nearly dealt Agustin for Davis last season.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/13010/celtics-bobcats-in-trade-talks

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The Boston Celtics and Charlotte Bobcats are discussing a trade centered around Glen "Big Baby'' Davis and D.J. Augustin, according to league sources.

The sources cautioned that nothing is imminent, but said the clubs are having discussions.

The Bobcats have been searching for a power forward, and the 6-9 Davis could be their man. The Celtics, meanwhile, have been longing for a backup point guard, and Augustin, who's fallen out of favor with Charlotte coach Larry Brown, would be more than adequate.


I would be OK with this trade, but what contract would have to come back?

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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2011, 11:52:45 AM »

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I think a S & T of Baby and our 1st rd pick (#25) for Charlotte's two First rd picks (#9 and #19) is more likely.

The draft takes place before free agency, so this wouldn't be legal.  I suppose there could be a pre-arranged trade, but even then, Charlotte doesn't have the right to get BBD's consent yet, and with the prospect of a long lockout and the uncertainty of the CBA, it's very unlikely that a team would take a gamble like that.

(Not to mention, BBD isn't worth the #9 pick in the draft, even a weak one.)


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« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2011, 11:54:26 AM »

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I can't see Detroit wanting Big Baby. I don't see a fit with Monroe, and the Pistons already have enough guys who are prone to  taking excessive midrange jumpers.

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« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2011, 12:21:25 PM »

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I think a S & T of Baby and our 1st rd pick (#25) for Charlotte's two First rd picks (#9 and #19) is more likely.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/05/14/2297418/bobcats-gm-we-will-get-this-right.html

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Assuming the Bobcats don't move up in the draft lottery, Higgins said he's open to exploring trade possibilities.

That could include looking to package Nos. 9 and 19 for one high pick or trading one of the two first-rounders for a young veteran.

The Bobcats have shown interest in Baby in the past, and according to reports nearly dealt Agustin for Davis last season.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/13010/celtics-bobcats-in-trade-talks

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The Boston Celtics and Charlotte Bobcats are discussing a trade centered around Glen "Big Baby'' Davis and D.J. Augustin, according to league sources.

The sources cautioned that nothing is imminent, but said the clubs are having discussions.

The Bobcats have been searching for a power forward, and the 6-9 Davis could be their man. The Celtics, meanwhile, have been longing for a backup point guard, and Augustin, who's fallen out of favor with Charlotte coach Larry Brown, would be more than adequate.

I had seen that news item, but had forgotten about the earlier discussions involving Davis. Nice connection there, Eddie.

It would be something to explore, definitely. Roy rightly points out that a draft night trade would not be possible (and I also doubt Davis could net the #9 pick).

Charlotte could make a first round selection, not sign him, and trade his rights plus a contract for filler (maybe Najera?) to Boston in a sign-and-trade for Davis, I suppose. But they could also just sign Davis to a FA contract that involved some of their MLE, and not have to give up a rookie to do it.
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