Phil Jackson's view of the trade

[hibbamax]

I don't know if anyone saw this, but Bill Simmons interviewed Phil Jackson and this is what he said about the trade:

After we ordered our food, we started discussing the Kendrick Perkins trade, which left Jackson confused because the Celtics made such a significant chemistry gamble during a season. He hadn't watched much of them lately, so for a minute or so, he flipped the conversation and pushed for my take. (That's a Jackson specialty -- he's naturally curious, so even if you're supposed to be interviewing him, he'll flip things without you realizing it.) I thought the Celtics had lost their identity, that they believed in two things: their overall toughness, and Doc Rivers' concept of ubuntu (togetherness). The trade undermined both beliefs. They didn't know what they were.

Jackson nodded in agreement. He's a big identity guy, obviously. He wondered why Boston worried about the future when it was clearly built for the present. He didn't say it, but the following was implied: When you have a chance for a title, you don't mess around. And how much did Kevin Garnett have left?

Very interesting view that mirrors my opinion. I am still so disappointed.

Here is the link: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/110513&sportCat=nba

[angryguy77]

And when you dont have a chance, you either change teams or retire.

The trade didn't kill this team. Injuries and poor coaching took it down.

[jv2764]

I don't know if anyone saw this, but Bill Simmons interviewed Phil Jackson and this is what he said about the trade:

After we ordered our food, we started discussing the Kendrick Perkins trade, which left Jackson confused because the Celtics made such a significant chemistry gamble during a season. He hadn't watched much of them lately, so for a minute or so, he flipped the conversation and pushed for my take. (That's a Jackson specialty -- he's naturally curious, so even if you're supposed to be interviewing him, he'll flip things without you realizing it.) I thought the Celtics had lost their identity, that they believed in two things: their overall toughness, and Doc Rivers' concept of ubuntu (togetherness). The trade undermined both beliefs. They didn't know what they were.

Jackson nodded in agreement. He's a big identity guy, obviously. He wondered why Boston worried about the future when it was clearly built for the present. He didn't say it, but the following was implied: When you have a chance for a title, you don't mess around. And how much did Kevin Garnett have left?

Very interesting view that mirrors my opinion. I am still so disappointed.

Here is the link: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/110513&sportCat=nba

For the love of God can we just understand Perk does not bring what this team needs the most.  Low post scoring.  They are fine defensively.  P

[GreenFaith1819]

I think that the most frustrating thing here is that IMO The Trade was facillitated by Marquis going down with the injury.

We needed a replacement for him, and I guess Danny didn't like what was out there, sooooooo.....

The rest is history.

I think it's already been discussed here on the blog over the last several weeks the pros and cons of the trade.

Phil Jackson is the greatest basketball coach of our time - it's been debated on here whether he is the greatest ever.

With that being said, he is not all-knowing. If he was, maybe he could've predicted LA's meltdown with DAL.

[barefacedmonk]

[CelticG1]

Lebron and Wade would have been terrified if Perk was in the lane. Cause those guys shy away from big angry centers. Perk would have averaged 6 point and 8 rebounds but with his chemistry we would have obviously swept the heat

[OsirusCeltics]

Lebron and Wade would have been terrified if Perk was in the lane. Cause those guys shy away from big angry centers. Perk would have averaged 6 point and 8 rebounds but with his chemistry we would have obviously swept the heat

Oh yeah emotion and "meanness" wins championships 

[barefacedmonk]

Lebron and Wade would have been terrified if Perk was in the lane. Cause those guys shy away from big angry centers. Perk would have averaged 6 point and 8 rebounds but with his chemistry we would have obviously swept the heat

I think the problem with Perk, as far as free agency and the market, is that other teams don't see the value that we see in Perk. We watch him under a microscope constantly so we know all the little things that he does well. Not sure if all the other GM's around the league see as much value in Perk as we do. It also seems like GM's tend to look toward the more athletic players and the ones the have "star" potential. I'm not sure if Perk has that "star" potential. To me he is just an absolutely solid NBA center and top 3 defensive center in the league. I believe that Perk could definitely become an all star center at some point. I DO hope that Perk gets the money he deserves though. Not sure if anyone has worked as hard as he has over the past 5 years in the entire NBA

i liked Perk his rookie year in the league when he showed a couple flashes of quality play. Then I was pretty down on him for a few years but it really seems like once KG came to town he really got motivated to become a defensive presence and just an all around solid presence in the league. Now I just  can't get enough of what he brings and I love the pride he takes in his game. Each year that goes by I like him more and more and value him that much more

You really think Perk is an atrocious b-ball player huh?

Are you the same guy?

[barefacedmonk]

Lebron and Wade would have been terrified if Perk was in the lane. Cause those guys shy away from big angry centers. Perk would have averaged 6 point and 8 rebounds but with his chemistry we would have obviously swept the heat

Oh yeah emotion and "meanness" wins championships 

Nope....inconsistency and keeping the bench warm for the starters wins championships.

[alley oop]

Lebron and Wade would have been terrified if Perk was in the lane. Cause those guys shy away from big angry centers. Perk would have averaged 6 point and 8 rebounds but with his chemistry we would have obviously swept the heat

Oh yeah emotion and "meanness" wins championships  

With Perk on the team, Wade may have feared, and would have had reason to fear, the consequences of breaking the arm of Rondo.

[Marcus13]

Yes, Phil and eveyone else in the NBA outside of the Celtics Organization knows it was a stupid mistake.

[BballTim]

  From the article it looks like Phil's opinion of the trade was no opinion.

 

[Eja117]

Lebron and Wade would have been terrified if Perk was in the lane. Cause those guys shy away from big angry centers. Perk would have averaged 6 point and 8 rebounds but with his chemistry we would have obviously swept the heat

Oh yeah emotion and "meanness" wins championships 

Well Tim Duncan won a bunch of rings, but a lot of winners have emotion and nastiness. This team was seriously seriously lacking nastiness.

I'm so tired of this "Perk only had a scowl" thing.

The scowl comes after he applies pain.  There's a difference

[Eja117]

And when you dont have a chance, you either change teams or retire.

The trade didn't kill this team. Injuries and poor coaching took it down.

When you don't have anything to coach you look like a worse coach.  Hard to coach with a bunch of junior varsity players, which is what we got for a starting center.

[blceltsfan]

Phil did a great job of keeping his group together right through the sweep.