My idea of improving/re-shuffling the Celtics

[OsirusCeltics]

I think the Big 3 maybe aren't young enough to carry a team anymore.

I think they should start Rondo (If he's not traded anyway) and Jeff Green should start, while the Big 3 come off the bench. Then the 2,4,5 positions would come from signing younger players who can make an impact

And that problem this team had with bench scoring? It would be solved. The Big 3 have the advantage of playing way less minutes. Have the skills to score in bunches, which makes them the best bench in the league. Delonte stays also

The rest of the team (Big Baby, Kristic, JO, Wafer, Arroy, Murphy) should all be used as trade chips to get impact players to fill out the starting lineup

Whose with me? lol

[jacksmedulaoblongata]

I think KG should do something that he doesn't want to do but in my view would help the team and move to the 5.  You move Green in at 4 and the leave the other three positions the same, then do some work on the bench.

[OsirusCeltics]

I think Pierce should play meaningful minutes, but should still be on the bench

[SHAQATTACK]

I think the Big 3 maybe aren't young enough to carry a team anymore.

I think they should start Rondo (If he's not traded anyway) and Jeff Green should start, while the Big 3 come off the bench. Then the 2,4,5 positions would come from signing younger players who can make an impact

And that problem this team had with bench scoring? It would be solved. The Big 3 have the advantage of playing way less minutes. Have the skills to score in bunches, which makes them the best bench in the league. Delonte stays also

The rest of the team (Big Baby, Kristic, JO, Wafer, Arroy, Murphy) should all be used as trade chips to get impact players to fill out the starting lineup

Whose with me? lol

I agree with most of what you said, I see what your saying and want you really want to say...its like kicking your own child out of ther house for their own good.. , I think Boston fans are TOO good hearted sometimes for their own good, the players become family and we turn our heads, at their age , injuries , other issues. .  But, I think we are going to have to do a NY Knicks type of deal .. sooner the better... yes it will hurt... and I'm betting Danny is going to do this too.. basically let most ANYBODY and  everybody go.. to get the cap way way way down and fish for the BIGGEST FISH in the sea.  Offer a few minimums to the starting three , or let em retire. What ever ..its time folk to say good bye  Depends on WHO danny goes after, as to who I'd try and keep.  I think D. West is steal and I'd hide him somewhere   .  I would trade ROndo or Green to get the Center piece for my team.

 

Come on Boston fans ...bite your lip , put your head down and say lets put a new better team together , rather than suffer and have a huge pity party after next years predictable down turn ..followed by a disaster the next year..

[jc3celticsphan]

I think the Big 3 maybe aren't young enough to carry a team anymore.

I think they should start Rondo (If he's not traded anyway) and Jeff Green should start, while the Big 3 come off the bench. Then the 2,4,5 positions would come from signing younger players who can make an impact

And that problem this team had with bench scoring? It would be solved. The Big 3 have the advantage of playing way less minutes. Have the skills to score in bunches, which makes them the best bench in the league. Delonte stays also

The rest of the team (Big Baby, Kristic, JO, Wafer, Arroy, Murphy) should all be used as trade chips to get impact players to fill out the starting lineup

Whose with me? lol

good idea its actually best for the team but we be better off with ray and paul coming off the bench and having a solid back up for kg.... but we are still in need of iguodala..
Rondo
Iggy
Green
Kg
Deandre jordan

Bench...

West
Ray
Pierce
Blank
Blank

We are in need of some bigmen

[Surferdad]

I think KG should do something that he doesn't want to do but in my view would help the team and move to the 5.  You move Green in at 4 and the leave the other three positions the same, then do some work on the bench.

Frankly, this is the only proposal on this thread that makes any sense.  I just can't see ALL the vets going to the bench, just won't happen.  Anyway, putting Green in gives you good talent at every position, but small up front.  This lineup could be used in certain cases, but hard to imagine as a starting lineup.

[GreenNote]

What about getting an international player who would be under the radar, kinda like how San Antonio did with Manu? I know it's a lot harder these days but it could be a cost-saving alternative worth looking into. But the again I can't think of defensive stoppers coming from abroad (at the wing position)

[KindBass]

There's no way KG would ever come off the bench.  You would have to chain him to it.  Besides, the Garden wouldn't be the same without The Big Ticket hopping around, screaming and beating his chest at the crowd right before tip-off.  It just wouldn't be right.  He just needs a few less minutes.

I don't see why Ray Allen can't still start.  He doesn't seem to noticeably tire throughout a game, like Paul and KG.  And he does more running around than anyone.  Dude is ageless.  He's like the Ichiro of basketball.  I wouldn't be surprised if Ray Allen were a robot from another planet and was 9000 years old and once trained under Yoda.

However, I can totally see Jeff Green starting.  Doc can incorporate him more into the offense, and he can play more minutes with Rondo, Ray, and KG.  I can picture Pierce, being the awesome team captain that he is, not having much of a problem assuming the Manu Ginobili role.  He can solve the bench's scoring problem, and he'll still have his legs when he needs to throw daggers in crunch time.

[chambers]

I think KG should do something that he doesn't want to do but in my view would help the team and move to the 5.  You move Green in at 4 and the leave the other three positions the same, then do some work on the bench.

You will never get anywhere with that starting 5- it's leaving too much pressure on KG to rebound- which he is terrible at.
Green is a terrible rebounder too and we would get dominated on the glass. Maybe if KG was 6-7 years younger and even then it's a stretch.

You need to bench Pierce and start Green or alternate them more to keep Pierces legs fresh for the playoffs. Same with KG.

Ideally we need someone like Iguadala who can play starter for Pierce but I feel like Danny won't go after Iggy because he wants to ride out his Green experiment. Ray can last another season at the SG, it's the PF and SF that we need to rest KG +Pierce, they are just too old to last a whole regular season and then be expected to handle the top tier PF's and SF's in the league for 3-4 playoff rounds.
ie Eastern Playoffs:
KG vs Amare then
KG vs Bosh
Then KG vs Boozer.
And that's just to reach the ECF.

Same with Pierce (even worse)
Pierce vs Carmelo
Pierce vs Lebron
Pierce vs Deng
Pierce vs Durant (in finals vs OKC)

It's just too much for him to handle at his age.

I really think the key to our success is moving Green and getting Iggy and/or going after young studd like Deandre Jordan to help KG.

[KindBass]

There's no way KG would ever come off the bench.  You would have to chain him to it.  Besides, the Garden wouldn't be the same without The Big Ticket hopping around, screaming and beating his chest at the crowd right before tip-off.  It just wouldn't be right.  He just needs a few less minutes.

I don't see why Ray Allen can't still start.  He doesn't seem to noticeably tire throughout a game, like Paul and KG.  And he does more running around than anyone.  Dude is ageless.  He's like the Ichiro of basketball.  I wouldn't be surprised if Ray Allen were a robot from another planet and was 9000 years old and once trained under Yoda.

However, I can totally see Jeff Green starting.  Doc can incorporate him more into the offense, and he can play more minutes with Rondo, Ray, and KG.  I can picture Pierce, being the awesome team captain that he is, not having much of a problem assuming the Manu Ginobili role.  He can solve the bench's scoring problem, and he'll still have his legs when he needs to throw daggers in crunch time.

All that being said, we still have other problems.  We need to get younger.  Guys like JO and Shaq aren't going to cut it.  We can't sign anyone, and we don't exactly have trade pieces, except for maybe Rondo if they decide to go that route.  I really have no idea what to expect out of next season.

[arctic 3.0]

I think KG should do something that he doesn't want to do but in my view would help the team and move to the 5.  You move Green in at 4 and the leave the other three positions the same, then do some work on the bench.

alas i think this may be the most realistic scenario.

we don't have the room or assets to bring in much talent this year.(mid level, vet min and bbd sign and trade will not fill the holes)

unless we can get dalembert(or oden) for the mid level we'll be short on big men.

other option is to keep JO and KG in the starting lineup, start green at the 3 and have pierce play SUPER6th man. (he's got the right mental make up to accept this (ala Kevin Mchale).

in this scenario pierce comes in, JO sits, KG swings to the 5 and jeff green to the 4.

[arctic 3.0]

I think the Big 3 maybe aren't young enough to carry a team anymore.

I think they should start Rondo (If he's not traded anyway) and Jeff Green should start, while the Big 3 come off the bench. Then the 2,4,5 positions would come from signing younger players who can make an impact

And that problem this team had with bench scoring? It would be solved. The Big 3 have the advantage of playing way less minutes. Have the skills to score in bunches, which makes them the best bench in the league. Delonte stays also

The rest of the team (Big Baby, Kristic, JO, Wafer, Arroy, Murphy) should all be used as trade chips to get impact players to fill out the starting lineup

Whose with me? lol

good idea its actually best for the team but we be better off with ray and paul coming off the bench and having a solid back up for kg.... but we are still in need of iguodala..
Rondo
Iggy
Green
Kg
Deandre jordan

Bench...

West
Ray
Pierce
Blank
Blank

We are in need of some bigmen

I forgot Deandre Jordan was a FA (restricted?)
little chance we nab him for the mid level hu?
What about a sign and trade for baby and MD's exemption?

Seriously, If we are looking for a physically dominant, athletic center with the mindset to dominate on defense,at a bargain price, he should be our number one target.
KG would love that kid!
he will eat minutes at the 5, block lots of shots, give a good impersonation of "the scowl", and miss 1/2 his free throws.
just what we're missing right?

rondo,west
allen, pierce (SUPER6th man)
green, pierce
KG, green
d jordan, jo
nice tight 8 man rotation

[moiso]

This is a wierd thread.  I didn't respond last night because I seriously couldn't tell if the whole thread was meant to be sarcastic or not.

There has to be some serious talent in the starting lineup for the big 3 to come off the bench but that's not going to be the case.  Danny can't put 3 stiffs in the starting lineup so the big 3 can come off the bench.

Also, unless KG puts on 30 lbs in the offseason I would never want him to start at center.  Never going to happen.

The only thing I agree with is that Danny said- we might be more potent with Green in the starting lineup and Paul playing a significant role off the bench.

[BballTim]

I think KG should do something that he doesn't want to do but in my view would help the team and move to the 5.  You move Green in at 4 and the leave the other three positions the same, then do some work on the bench.

You will never get anywhere with that starting 5- it's leaving too much pressure on KG to rebound- which he is terrible at.

  I don't think I'd really describe KG as a terrible rebounder.

[eugen]

Seems to me that Green is totally overrated. This is now a tendency. I do not see him able to replace RY or PP