Moving Pierce is key to Rebuilding

[wdleehi]

AS much as I want Pierce to retire as a Celtics, I would never say never to a trade. 

[indeedproceed]

1) Pierce should retire a Celtic.

2) If we trade Pierce, Thompson, Thorton and Garcia is a poo-poo platter I pass on 10 times outta 10.

3) If we did trade Pierce, it would be for either A) a expiring money, a young player, and draft picks, or B) along with our existing draft picks for a bigger younger star.

4) Pierce should retire a Celtic.

[Michael Anthony]

Pierce retiring as a Celtic is a cute idea. I can get behind it. He meant a lot to us when we were terrible, and even more when we were champions.

Holding on to your good old players is a bad strategy, because they keep you good enough to make the playoffs, but not good enough to win.

Parish, Maxwell, Ainge and DJ all played for different teams. Tiny and Cowens did too.

Pierce is retiring as a Celtic. If you accept that or not is up to you, but Paul Pierce has earned the right to retired as a Celtic no matter what he does for the rest of his career.

Pierce is good enough to be on a championship team still and that is all that matters. End of story.

Danny Ainge, is that you?

Don't need to be Danny Ainge to realize what I said is true.

You don't hand a guy who has been with your team through thick and thin a 4 year contract worth a lot of money at the age of 33 without the intentions of having him retire with your team.

I love Pierce. He is all heart.

Let me put this question to you differently:

Would you rather keep Pierce and have Atlanta Hawks level success, or would you rather move Pierce and compete for championships?

Keeping Pierce means not clearing enough cap space OR collecting attractive enough pieces to lure Howard to Boston in 2012.

[footey]

Pierce will retire as a Celtic. Case closed.

[clover]

When Danny mentioned the potential for Green to start next year, I actually wondered whether he might be warming Pierce up to the possibility of a trade.

Listen to Wyc a year or two ago and it would have been a no-way, no-how.  But I haven't heard much from him lately and don't know whether that's still the owners' stance.

[Cman]

Pierce will retire as a Celtic. Case closed.

And Dwight Howard is not coming to Boston.  Another case closed.

[Michael Anthony]

1) Pierce should retire a Celtic.

2) If we trade Pierce, Thompson, Thorton and Garcia is a poo-poo platter I pass on 10 times outta 10.

3) If we did trade Pierce, it would be for either A) a expiring money, a young player, and draft picks, or B) along with our existing draft picks for a bigger younger star.

4) Pierce should retire a Celtic.

Thompson, Thorton and Garcia is not a super offer, but it is about $8 million in 2012 cap savings, and nets us a solid starting power forward and a very good sixth man.

We don't get to see Thorton a lot around here, but check out his usage rate, scoring, and per - he is a Jamal Crawfor clone at a much lower cost.

I am certainly open to other ideas, but the parts need to be the same - cap savings, starter at PF, good sixth man.

[Michael Anthony]

Pierce will retire as a Celtic. Case closed.

And Dwight Howard is not coming to Boston.  Another case closed.

Did you both consult Miss Cleo?

[indeedproceed]

Pierce will retire as a Celtic. Case closed.

And Dwight Howard is not coming to Boston.  Another case closed.

Did you both consult Miss Cleo?

I haven't seen Howard say one single thing giving any indication that he would be open to coming to Boston. I haven't seen anyone leak any info that he would come to Boston. On top of that, Boston has never landed a top tier free agent that has worked out in a positive manner.

I just don't see it working out like you see..not from history, not from what's been said by Howard or leaked by his agent..

The only feasible way that Howard comes to Boston is via trade, and Boston doesn't have the ammo for that from my POV.

[Who]

Pierce will retire as a Celtic. Case closed.

And Dwight Howard is not coming to Boston.  Another case closed.

Did you both consult Miss Cleo?

I haven't seen Howard say one single thing giving any indication that he would be open to coming to Boston. I haven't seen anyone leak any info that he would come to Boston. On top of that, Boston has never landed a top tier free agent that has worked out in a positive manner.

I just don't see it working out like you see..not from history, not from what's been said by Howard or leaked by his agent..

The only feasible way that Howard comes to Boston is via trade, and Boston doesn't have the ammo for that from my POV.

I am not convinced that Dwight Howard is even thinking about specific teams he'd like to join if he decides to leave Orlando yet.

Be patient. Wait for next year's free agency to draw closer. Wait for Dwight Howard's frustrations to reach boiling point. Wait for him to make up his mind and realize that he wants to leave Orlando.

Then he'll evaluate his options properly and at that point we'll have an idea of whether or not Boston is in the mix.

I give absolutely no credibility to anything being said about Dwight's preferred destinations at this point.

[indeedproceed]

Pierce will retire as a Celtic. Case closed.

And Dwight Howard is not coming to Boston.  Another case closed.

Did you both consult Miss Cleo?

I haven't seen Howard say one single thing giving any indication that he would be open to coming to Boston. I haven't seen anyone leak any info that he would come to Boston. On top of that, Boston has never landed a top tier free agent that has worked out in a positive manner.

I just don't see it working out like you see..not from history, not from what's been said by Howard or leaked by his agent..

The only feasible way that Howard comes to Boston is via trade, and Boston doesn't have the ammo for that from my POV.

I am not convinced that Dwight Howard is even thinking about specific teams he'd like to join if he decides to leave Orlando yet.

Be patient. Wait for next year's free agency to draw closer. Wait for Dwight Howard's frustrations to reach boiling point. Wait for him to make up his mind and realize that he wants to leave Orlando.

Then he'll evaluate his options properly and at that point we'll have an idea of whether or not Boston is in the mix.

I give absolutely no credibility to anything being said about Dwight's preferred destinations at this point.

The thing that worries me, is that both NJ and LA make way more sense than Boston. Better player (Kobe) in LA with better trade chips, Better player (D Will) in NJ with better trade chips.

Boston..I just don't see how that would work.

[StartOrien]

If the Boston Celtics traded Paul Pierce for Jason Thompson, Marcus Thornton and Fransisco Garcia I would stop watching basketball for at least a year. Not kidding.

[clover]

Pierce will retire as a Celtic. Case closed.

And Dwight Howard is not coming to Boston.  Another case closed.

Did you both consult Miss Cleo?

I haven't seen Howard say one single thing giving any indication that he would be open to coming to Boston. I haven't seen anyone leak any info that he would come to Boston. On top of that, Boston has never landed a top tier free agent that has worked out in a positive manner.

I just don't see it working out like you see..not from history, not from what's been said by Howard or leaked by his agent..

The only feasible way that Howard comes to Boston is via trade, and Boston doesn't have the ammo for that from my POV.

I am not convinced that Dwight Howard is even thinking about specific teams he'd like to join if he decides to leave Orlando yet.

Be patient. Wait for next year's free agency to draw closer. Wait for Dwight Howard's frustrations to reach boiling point. Wait for him to make up his mind and realize that he wants to leave Orlando.

Then he'll evaluate his options properly and at that point we'll have an idea of whether or not Boston is in the mix.

I give absolutely no credibility to anything being said about Dwight's preferred destinations at this point.

Agreed.  The last time Doc was interested in a longer-term commitment from Danny was when they were rebuilding and Doc wanted to still be there for the good times to follow.  I think he's signed up for something similar again.  Doc's ready to be patient and Danny's ready for some big-game hunting--even if it takes a year.

[angryguy77]

If the right deal is there, you have to do a trade.
I love PP, but I would I would trade him 100 times over if it would make us better. But I don't know if we would get enough value back for him.

If loyalty helped our chances of landing talent in the long run, then I would be all for keeping him. But it doesn't work that way.

[PosImpos]

That trade is repugnantly awful.