Celtics biggest needs/wants for 2011-12 season...

[kozlodoev]

Also note that we have slightly over $3 million in trade exceptions from the Daniels and Erden/Harangody trades, so we can take a roleplayer on a long, reasonable contract... not that someone is looking to get rid of these, in principle.

[Lucky17]

We need athleticism in the frontcourt. That's the only way we will be able to go deep in the playoffs. Deandre Jordan is the best option as many people have said and he will be expensive. But if next year is the big 3's last year, don't you pull out all the stops? I'm not saying give him a franchise crippling contact but definitely overpay a little.

He's not simply expensive. He's unattainable -- no money or pieces to offer.

If Jermaine retired we could trade his contract along with cash (Sterling loves cash) and their firs that we have for him.

No one was unattainable, it is just simply very very unlikely.

Why would they give their starting center for spare parts? To clear space for Kaman, who's shown a decided inability to play alongside Blake Griffin?

You're much more likely to be able to pry out Kaman for a combination of Glen Davis and Jermaine O'Neal's contract.

Agreed. Boston can likely only offer the MLE, which is at least what every other team in the league can offer.

The only way you get Jordan is to sell him on the stability and culture of the Celtics franchise, his ability to help the team compete this year, and his status as a future cornerstone of the team next to Rondo.

[Chris]

Also note that we have slightly over $3 million in trade exceptions from the Daniels and Erden/Harangody trades, so we can take a roleplayer on a long, reasonable contract... not that someone is looking to get rid of these, in principle.

Can't combine trade exceptions though.  

[Lucky17]

Also note that we have slightly over $3 million in trade exceptions from the Daniels and Erden/Harangody trades, so we can take a roleplayer on a long, reasonable contract... not that someone is looking to get rid of these, in principle.

Those can't be combined, unfortunately. The Daniels TE is of a decent size ($2.35 mil), though.

In another thread, I lobbied for using it to shoehorn into a rekindled Indiana-Memphis trade (like the one that fell through at the deadline) to acquire Josh McRoberts in a sign and trade. I think he'd be a great replacement for Davis.

[kozlodoev]

Also note that we have slightly over $3 million in trade exceptions from the Daniels and Erden/Harangody trades, so we can take a roleplayer on a long, reasonable contract... not that someone is looking to get rid of these, in principle.

Those can't be combined, unfortunately. The Daniels TE is of a decent size ($2.35 mil), though.

In another thread, I lobbied for using it to shoehorn into a rekindled Indiana-Memphis trade (like the one that fell through at the deadline) to acquire Josh McRoberts in a sign and trade. I think he'd be a great replacement for Davis.

Unfortunately, if JO retires then our priority shifts to a C who can start and play 20+ minutes (as opposed to a Davis replacement at the backup PF spot). Of course, that means we have to resign Krstic and play Green at PF a lot. But the realities of the salary cap are such; you simply can't have everything.

It's good though that we also have the biannual exception this year. This can probably net us a piece.

[toine83]

Also note that we have slightly over $3 million in trade exceptions from the Daniels and Erden/Harangody trades, so we can take a roleplayer on a long, reasonable contract... not that someone is looking to get rid of these, in principle.

Those can't be combined, unfortunately. The Daniels TE is of a decent size ($2.35 mil), though.

In another thread, I lobbied for using it to shoehorn into a rekindled Indiana-Memphis trade (like the one that fell through at the deadline) to acquire Josh McRoberts in a sign and trade. I think he'd be a great replacement for Davis.

I think McRoberts is a FA

[Lucky17]

Also note that we have slightly over $3 million in trade exceptions from the Daniels and Erden/Harangody trades, so we can take a roleplayer on a long, reasonable contract... not that someone is looking to get rid of these, in principle.

Those can't be combined, unfortunately. The Daniels TE is of a decent size ($2.35 mil), though.

In another thread, I lobbied for using it to shoehorn into a rekindled Indiana-Memphis trade (like the one that fell through at the deadline) to acquire Josh McRoberts in a sign and trade. I think he'd be a great replacement for Davis.

Unfortunately, if JO retires then our priority shifts to a C who can start and play 20+ minutes (as opposed to a Davis replacement at the backup PF spot). Of course, that means we have to resign Krstic and play Green at PF a lot. But the realities of the salary cap are such; you simply can't have everything.

It's good though that we also have the biannual exception this year. This can probably net us a piece.

I'd be surprised if JO retires. He came back from that knee injury to play quite well down the stretch. He can still contribute 20 minutes a night.

[Lucky17]

Also note that we have slightly over $3 million in trade exceptions from the Daniels and Erden/Harangody trades, so we can take a roleplayer on a long, reasonable contract... not that someone is looking to get rid of these, in principle.

Those can't be combined, unfortunately. The Daniels TE is of a decent size ($2.35 mil), though.

In another thread, I lobbied for using it to shoehorn into a rekindled Indiana-Memphis trade (like the one that fell through at the deadline) to acquire Josh McRoberts in a sign and trade. I think he'd be a great replacement for Davis.

I think McRoberts is a FA

Yes. I advocate having Indiana sign and trade him to Boston for a pick or cash as part of a modified deal to acquire Mayo from Memphis, as they tried to do just before the deadline (New Orleans pulled out at the last minute).

[kozlodoev]

I'd be surprised if JO retires. He came back from that knee injury to play quite well down the stretch. He can still contribute 20 minutes a night.

Latest I heard is that he's leaning toward retirement for personal rather than medical reasons. Not sure what to make out of it.

In any case, I'd rather have a starter that is healthier. Jermaine has been great, but he has been out a lot, too. That destroys team rhythm.

[slamtheking]

Needs: athletic youth that hopefully comes in the form of a rebounding/defensive machine at PF/C and a SG/SF scorer that can penetrate and finish at the rim.  that would be a really good start.

I'd cap that off with getting another head coach that can figure out how to incorporate those young players and the bench in general to keep the starters fresh into the playoffs.  someone who can't be outcoached by Spoelsta -- setting the bar fairly low for initial expectations.

What I think they actually need is the reality to set in that this roster has been exposed as too old and they make the deals to move the older players for good young players and/or picks to restock the team.  2 years in a row the primary (old) players ran out of gas in the playoffs. 

[kozlodoev]

I'd cap that off with getting another head coach that can figure out how to incorporate those young players and the bench in general to keep the starters fresh into the playoffs.  someone who can't be outcoached by Spoelsta -- setting the bar fairly low for initial expectations.

That's really funny.

[Lucky17]

I'd be surprised if JO retires. He came back from that knee injury to play quite well down the stretch. He can still contribute 20 minutes a night.

Latest I heard is that he's leaning toward retirement for personal rather than medical reasons. Not sure what to make out of it.

In any case, I'd rather have a starter that is healthier. Jermaine has been great, but he has been out a lot, too. That destroys team rhythm.

In that case, JO's contract becomes a decent trade chip. Your off-hand comment about using it to acquire Kaman merits consideration, I think. He's not terribly athletic, but he can rebound and score, and his contract is the right length.

[Assassin70]

I'd cap that off with getting another head coach that can figure out how to incorporate those young players and the bench in general to keep the starters fresh into the playoffs.  someone who can't be outcoached by Spoelsta -- setting the bar fairly low for initial expectations.

That's really funny.

The first part I would agree with 2nd part not so much.  Spoelstra didn't outcoach Rivers.  His younger more athletic players outplayed his team.

Yeah as usual some of Doc's lineup were turrible @ times.  But he wasn't calling plays to have them turn the ball over not rebound or execute the plays he draws up.

[Evantime34]

Also note that we have slightly over $3 million in trade exceptions from the Daniels and Erden/Harangody trades, so we can take a roleplayer on a long, reasonable contract... not that someone is looking to get rid of these, in principle.

Can't combine trade exceptions though.  

Can you combine an exception as part of a trade? Let's say we wanted to trade JO if he retires plus our exception for a guy who makes 8.5 MM can we do that?

[Lucky17]

Also note that we have slightly over $3 million in trade exceptions from the Daniels and Erden/Harangody trades, so we can take a roleplayer on a long, reasonable contract... not that someone is looking to get rid of these, in principle.

Can't combine trade exceptions though.  

Can you combine an exception as part of a trade? Let's say we wanted to trade JO if he retires plus our exception for a guy who makes 8.5 MM can we do that?

No, we can't.