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Should the Celtics rebuild after this year?

Yes
39 (42.4%)
No
53 (57.6%)

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Re: Blow it up?
« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2011, 10:18:26 PM »

Offline CeltsAcumen

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I want Shaq out of town. I know Kobe is a dirtbag but I totally understand why he hated his guts. He lets down teams year after year. He's so selfish. Look at these weight loss shows. 55 plus year olds losng crazy weight. Shaq is a disgrace. Doesn't make him a bad person but he is a bad teammate in my opinion. Celts clean house with a 30-40 pound lighter Shaq.

While I agree with you about Shaq as a player, lets not get crazy, it was DA who made Shaq the Celtics white knight coming to save the day...

Re: Blow it up?
« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2011, 10:20:28 PM »

Offline GreenEnvy

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Wait and see how this season ends.

Last time I checked, the Boston Celtics are still alive.

As long as they are kicking, I believe in them.

If they hang Banner 18, let's use the MLE wisely and contemplating what to do with BBD.

Anything short of Banner 18, we need to look up and down the roster for sure, but we definitely do NOT need to blow this up.
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Re: Blow it up?
« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2011, 10:26:56 PM »

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depends how far they get.  anything short of the finals, start dismantling for young players and assets.  If they come up short, it's because they either lost to Miami or Chicago -- 2 teams that are younger and the C's don't have the energy to keep up with them.  another year older next year won't improve that situation and the roster has too many holes to fill with the MLE, LLE and vet min contracts.

KG, Ray, JO, Green and BBD would all make valuable additions to contenders looking for that last piece next year.

Re: Blow it up?
« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2011, 10:32:54 PM »

Offline blackbird

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Start with Ainge, I say. He's too much of a tinkerer. Sometimes I think he confuses the Celtics for his fantasy team.

Re: Blow it up?
« Reply #34 on: May 09, 2011, 10:41:29 PM »

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To be honest, we might as well trade PP too. So yeah, I'm thinking we should blow it up.  If we couldn't beat this team now, we aren't going to beat them next year either.


Man we could have if Rondo was healthy! The only thing that has ever stopped us since this core was put together was the injury bug. If there is only half a season next year and you can't get anything for our expiring contracts then I say go for it.


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Re: Blow it up?
« Reply #35 on: May 09, 2011, 10:42:23 PM »

Offline PseudoElite

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BLOW IT UP!

If I have to watch another 4th quarter meltdown in the playoffs because of old legs I'm going to lose it.
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Re: Blow it up?
« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2011, 10:43:49 PM »

Offline PosImpos

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To be honest, we might as well trade PP too. So yeah, I'm thinking we should blow it up.  If we couldn't beat this team now, we aren't going to beat them next year either.


Man we could have if Rondo was healthy! The only thing that has ever stopped us since this core was put together was the injury bug. If there is only half a season next year and you can't get anything for our expiring contracts then I say go for it.

This is a nice thought but in the past two seasons, major injuries to the Big 3 have come in the middle of the season (KG this year, Paul last year).  Also, in a lockout there would be many more back to backs than in a regular season.  The Celtics really, really suck on back to backs.

I don't think the Celtics would actually benefit as much from a lockout as people seem to think.
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Re: Blow it up?
« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2011, 10:45:47 PM »

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I don't want to vote because I don't know what I want. If we can get value, I guess you have to do it, as it will be over for a while if we just let everybody walk. I still think these guys are hungry and have it in them for another run, especially with the lock out.

And for those of you who think Perk would have made a difference this game, you are dreaming. JO played a very decent game and he wasn't even out there in the 2nd half. Do you really think Doc would have played a very offensively limited Perk?

Re: Blow it up?
« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2011, 10:47:58 PM »

Offline Yugocelt

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Is there a way to rebuild but still remain competitive?

Re: Blow it up?
« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2011, 10:48:51 PM »

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Do not see a reason for blowing up: we would get nothing really valuable back (do not see any good options in the market) and despite of all our problems in this series, we are right there with Miami...if we can have a better supporting cast next year, I still think we can win it...

Re: Blow it up?
« Reply #40 on: May 09, 2011, 10:49:56 PM »

Offline PosImpos

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Is there a way to rebuild but still remain competitive?

Not really (in the short term), unless Danny can pull off a trade that nobody sees coming, or convince NO to take Rondo and picks for Chris Paul.

However, the alternative is to be marginally competitive in the post-season (e.g. the Spurs), maybe win a series or two over the next couple of years, and delay the rebuilding process by holding onto what we have right now.
Never forget the Champs of '08, or the gutsy warriors of '10.

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Re: Blow it up?
« Reply #41 on: May 09, 2011, 10:50:04 PM »

Offline PseudoElite

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Okay so we don't blow it up

We stay at around 50 wins a season then fall short in the playoffs every year

Not to mention the back to back losses to lottery teams and 4th quarter meltdowns.

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Re: Blow it up?
« Reply #42 on: May 09, 2011, 10:52:24 PM »

Offline Birdmanbr

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If you present me with a good option (that actually could fly), I would consider...unfortunately, I do not see it happening...

Re: Blow it up?
« Reply #43 on: May 09, 2011, 10:54:25 PM »

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I would definitely support major players movement when this season is over - even to the extent of moving Ray, Rondo, Green, BBD, DWest for young talented players. I think the only guys we can keep are KG, PP and Bradley (who still needs to show what he's got).

Doc I think must also go especially if we are to rebuild. He's just terrible with his substitutions. He misused Green and the other guys we got after the trade. HCA was never among their objectives after the trade and I believe that he could have used them more to keep them attuned to the game and the system. He was too dependent on the OLD THREE. He couldn't let experience and raw talent come together.

Re: Blow it up?
« Reply #44 on: May 09, 2011, 10:56:55 PM »

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And for the record, I'd rather watch a 32-win Celtics team than watch Pierce on Utah, and KG on Portland, and Ray on OKC, and whoever else wherever.

I love this team. Of course because of the uniform, but also because of the group of guys. Trading Perk hurt, but trading the Bird of the new millennium (Pierce) I am not a fan of. He gave us everything he had from Day 1, and as an organization we should reciprocate the loyalty.

If you want to trade KG, Ray, or Rondo, it BETTER blow my socks off.




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