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Re: Lineup tweaks
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2011, 01:48:16 PM »

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Also I know this will never happen but I want to see Wafer in the game for like 5-10 min.I think that rest could go a long way for Paul/Ray.

The problem with that is that not only is Wafer mistake prone, he is not used to playing with these guys that much.  Given how good the Heat are at taking advantage of every mistake the C's make (really, it is what has them up 2 games right now), I just don't think adding more to the equation like that is a good idea right now.

If the C's make it to the next round, then perhaps an argument can be made however.

Re: Lineup tweaks
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2011, 02:22:49 PM »

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The only lineup tweak I want is the one I saw in game 3 i.e. Davis playing no more then a quarter of total time.  He is killing the team when he is playing 20+ minutes, keep him no more then 11 (and frankly I'd rather just have Krstic or Murphy play and leave Davis on the bench the whole game, but that isn't going to happen).
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Re: Lineup tweaks
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2011, 02:26:32 PM »

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No, JO has earned the starting job and it would be wrong to take it away from him.

However if I were Doc I would love to see Jeff Green first off the bench playing the 4. Also I know this will never happen but I want to see Wafer in the game for like 5-10 min.I think that rest could go a long way for Paul/Ray.


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Miami has been better then Boston when Boston goes small. 

Re: Lineup tweaks
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2011, 02:41:35 PM »

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No, JO has earned the starting job and it would be wrong to take it away from him.

However if I were Doc I would love to see Jeff Green first off the bench playing the 4. Also I know this will never happen but I want to see Wafer in the game for like 5-10 min.I think that rest could go a long way for Paul/Ray.


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Miami has been better then Boston when Boston goes small. 

I am not sure I necessarily agree with this.  I actually think the C's have played pretty well in this series when they had Green at PF along with most of the other starters. 

Re: Lineup tweaks
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2011, 03:31:00 PM »

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The problem with that is that not only is Wafer mistake prone, he is not used to playing with these guys that much

I disagree to some extent. Wafer is mistake prone when he plays extended minutes. He is explosive and energetic and in limited minutes can be very effective, especially since we are so outmatched athletically.
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Re: Lineup tweaks
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2011, 03:41:31 PM »

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Only fair to keep starting JO; he's played well.

Jeff Green is only good for six fouls against LeBron.  Totally ineffective at the 4.  Needs to be spoon-fed on offense.

BBD may be slumping, but under no circumstances should Troy Murphy enter a competitive game.  Kristic... give him three minutes and see how it goes.

I can also see getting Wafer a couple minutes here and there for energy.  Ray needs rest.

Re: Lineup tweaks
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2011, 03:44:20 PM »

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maybe it's too much to ask a guy to change positions and change teams.  Play Jeff Green alot at the 4 where he's used to playing, letting him eat into Baby's minutes.  I think Jeff will play better the longer he's on the floor.

Then do something creative to make sure Paul doesn't play too many minutes

Re: Lineup tweaks
« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2011, 03:56:16 PM »

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No, JO has earned the starting job and it would be wrong to take it away from him.

However if I were Doc I would love to see Jeff Green first off the bench playing the 4. Also I know this will never happen but I want to see Wafer in the game for like 5-10 min.I think that rest could go a long way for Paul/Ray.


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Miami has been better then Boston when Boston goes small. 

I am not sure I necessarily agree with this.  I actually think the C's have played pretty well in this series when they had Green at PF along with most of the other starters. 

It depends.  When Doc refuses to match up with Miami's small ball lineup (like he did in Game 1 and 2), then yes Boston is at a huge disadvantage. But when Doc matches up, with either Delonte (moving Paul to PF) or Jeff (playing at PF), then that's perhaps Boston's best offensive lineup.

The key adjustment Doc made between Game 2 and 3 was deciding to matchup with Miami's small lineup.  Matching up w/Miami has several advantages for Boston.  First, it keeps KG on Bosh at all times, meaning Bosh gets shut down and our best interior help defender and rebounder is close to the basket and not forced to guard James Jones at the 3 point line.  Second, it spreads the court, so KG can work against single coverage in the post (instead of being doubled by JO or Baby's defender), and Green or West can spot up for 3s if they bring a help defender from the perimeter.  Third, playing with the Big 4 unleashes the offensive potential of West and Green, something that's needed since it's hard for them to get on track playing with the other reserves.

The other big adjustment is having Shaq back for 10 minutes a night.  He might be laboring up and down the court, but his mere presence brings swag to that second unit, and brings an intimidation factor that makes the Heat think twice about driving the lane.

Shaq's return and Doc's decision to go small could be the turning points in this series.  Miami seems primed to start Anthony and Chalmers, but I tend to think those changes will have little effect on this series.  The value of starting Big Z and Bibby for 6 minutes each half had more to do with how it set up Miami's rotation for the next 18 minutes of the game. 

Doc's adjustment to go small completely minimized Miami's advantage going small, so Miami will likely now try to play big with their 2nd unit, something that could limit Shaq's impact, but something that might spark Baby to one of those 15 point, 8 rebound games.  Miami has basically shut down Glen because Anthony's energy and length were too much for Glen to combat--but if Glen can get some minutes against Big Z or Dampier, I think it could awaken him. 
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