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Re: Andrew Bynum
« Reply #45 on: May 08, 2011, 10:47:19 PM »

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what Odom did was bad but no more then a 2 game suspension. this however was on a player up in the air where he could not defend himself. it wouldn't have been as bad if he had just punched Dirk in the face tbh.

that said my guess is 5 games if hes still a Laker and 10 games if hes on the Magic.

Re: Andrew Bynum
« Reply #46 on: May 08, 2011, 10:48:58 PM »

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what Odom did was bad but no more then a 2 game suspension. this however was on a player up in the air where he could not defend himself. it wouldn't have been as bad if he had just punched Dirk in the face tbh.

that said my guess is 5 games if hes still a Laker and 10 games if hes on the Magic.

and 30 games if he somehow ends up a celtic

Re: Andrew Bynum
« Reply #47 on: May 08, 2011, 11:27:44 PM »

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What i find absolutly disturbing beyond belief is the notion that the commentators/news crew "understands" why he would do that.

Just look at the commentary in the vid Roy posted, Andrew Bynum has nothing to do with the legacy of the Lakers, that legacy was earned by others and that somehow makes it understandable that he would do something like that again?

Andrew Bynum should not be viewed in that light, he should be absolutly trashed by anyone and everyone for being what he is, a classless coward that is absolutly doing nothing else but tarnishing the image of the Lakers and to a certain extend Kobe Bryant.

Will anything happen? not likely.. he will be back next season and act like he regrets what he has done and everything will be forgot'en.

Watch the video again, both game commentators IMMEDIATELY condemned him. One even said it was the most bush league thing he'd ever seen. And as much as I detest Kobe Bryant, he looked disgusted immediately after the play and was honest in his disapproval of it in his post-game presser, even supposedly speaking with Barea after the game and apologizing for Bynum's behavior.

Bynum's comments were ridiculous afterward and showed that he has no understanding of the seriousness of that foul. Barea could've been badly injured. Given his history of trying to harm players (because that's what it is at this point), the league needs to come down hard on him.

You dont seem to get the red thread in what im trying to say, ofcourse they would condem the actions of a person deliberatly trying to injure another player, thats all well and fine but following it up with a halfassed excuse for the very same actions less than a minute later kinda defeats the purposs?

This is a rough transcribe of the conversation:

Guy1: That is disgusting
Guy2: Amen to that
Guy2: Amen to that

Guy2: I do so, understanding why this is happening
Guy1: Yes!
Guy2: We are talking about, when you say LA Lakers, your talking about excelense (cant spell that), your talking about titles, your talking about some of the greatest players to have played this game and for a team like this to end a series in this way is a disgrace.

What he is doing and what alot of the media is doing, is with one hand strongly condeming the actions of andrew and with the other trying to say, that its a understandable reaction "because" he's apart of the Lakers with their great tradition and blabla!

The point im trying to make, is that an action such as that is nothing but senseless violence.. had that been someone from the San Antonio Spurs, it would have been in-excuseable but because its the Lakers, it can somehow become rational for a person to react that way because its unbecomming of the Lakers to loose in the fashion they did.

You wont ever get anyone from the media braindead enough to outright come out and say it, that they can rationalize the actions of that lunatic but that will be the underlaying story.

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Re: Andrew Bynum
« Reply #48 on: May 09, 2011, 12:48:34 AM »

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What i find absolutly disturbing beyond belief is the notion that the commentators/news crew "understands" why he would do that.

Just look at the commentary in the vid Roy posted, Andrew Bynum has nothing to do with the legacy of the Lakers, that legacy was earned by others and that somehow makes it understandable that he would do something like that again?

Andrew Bynum should not be viewed in that light, he should be absolutly trashed by anyone and everyone for being what he is, a classless coward that is absolutly doing nothing else but tarnishing the image of the Lakers and to a certain extend Kobe Bryant.

Will anything happen? not likely.. he will be back next season and act like he regrets what he has done and everything will be forgot'en.

Watch the video again, both game commentators IMMEDIATELY condemned him. One even said it was the most bush league thing he'd ever seen. And as much as I detest Kobe Bryant, he looked disgusted immediately after the play and was honest in his disapproval of it in his post-game presser, even supposedly speaking with Barea after the game and apologizing for Bynum's behavior.

Bynum's comments were ridiculous afterward and showed that he has no understanding of the seriousness of that foul. Barea could've been badly injured. Given his history of trying to harm players (because that's what it is at this point), the league needs to come down hard on him.

You dont seem to get the red thread in what im trying to say, ofcourse they would condem the actions of a person deliberatly trying to injure another player, thats all well and fine but following it up with a halfassed excuse for the very same actions less than a minute later kinda defeats the purposs?

This is a rough transcribe of the conversation:

Guy1: That is disgusting
Guy2: Amen to that
Guy2: Amen to that

Guy2: I do so, understanding why this is happening
Guy1: Yes!
Guy2: We are talking about, when you say LA Lakers, your talking about excelense (cant spell that), your talking about titles, your talking about some of the greatest players to have played this game and for a team like this to end a series in this way is a disgrace.

What he is doing and what alot of the media is doing, is with one hand strongly condeming the actions of andrew and with the other trying to say, that its a understandable reaction "because" he's apart of the Lakers with their great tradition and blabla!

The point im trying to make, is that an action such as that is nothing but senseless violence.. had that been someone from the San Antonio Spurs, it would have been in-excuseable but because its the Lakers, it can somehow become rational for a person to react that way because its unbecomming of the Lakers to loose in the fashion they did.

You wont ever get anyone from the media braindead enough to outright come out and say it, that they can rationalize the actions of that lunatic but that will be the underlaying story.



I completely disagree. The immediate reaction I've seen is people saying it was an embarrassment to the organization. James Worthy condemned it saying, "imposters were wearing Lakers uniforms today" and that Bynum "should learn professionalism". Magic was disappointed in him and said it was embarrassing to the Buss family. As I said before, Kobe said "there's no place for that. Ever." I have yet to hear someone say "it's understandable & excusable because he's a Laker."

If you're talking about Phil Jackson saying Bynum was frustrated, and Barea was the guy that frustrated them the most today - Phil also pointed out that that's not the way they should have gone out and it was disappointing.

Everyone seems to be holding Andrew accountable - as they should.
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Re: Andrew Bynum
« Reply #49 on: May 09, 2011, 01:02:15 AM »

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"They were disrespectful fouls, but it just showed their character," Mavs starting shooting guard DeShawn Stevenson said. "I think we kind of took their heart, especially winning on their court the first two games and then coming in here playing the way we are it made them frustrated. I don't think nobody ever played them like that. When people get frustrated people show their real character."

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Re: Andrew Bynum
« Reply #50 on: May 09, 2011, 01:48:02 AM »

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Honestly, this deserves harsher punishment than a 10-20 game suspension. The NBA needs to go off his intent. His intent was to start a conflict on the court with a clear take-down and he has admitted publicly that the take-down was intentional.

The Mav's, luckily for the NBA, kept their composure and did not let the night turn ugly. But Bynum should not be rewarded for Dallas' composure.

This for all intents and purposes should have been a brawl tonight. And would have been if Bynum had his way.

Add it to the fact that Bynum has a history of identical flagrant fouls (elbow it the ribs, with no intent to go for the ball) including one early in April. Not to mention the fact that Bynum shows no remorse for the hit.

This should be a half-season suspension in my opinion, minimum.

Re: Andrew Bynum
« Reply #51 on: May 09, 2011, 01:52:07 AM »

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Over under on Brendan Haywood laying Bynum out next year?

Re: Andrew Bynum
« Reply #52 on: May 10, 2011, 07:52:15 PM »

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Andrew Bynum got a 5 game suspension ($667,000 in forfeited salary .. ouch) and a $25,000 fine.

http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakersblog/2011/05/andrew-bynum-gets-five-game-suspension-and-25000-fine.html

Re: Andrew Bynum
« Reply #53 on: May 10, 2011, 07:58:22 PM »

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Andrew Bynum got a 5 game suspension ($667,000 in forfeited salary .. ouch) and a $25,000 fine.

http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakersblog/2011/05/andrew-bynum-gets-five-game-suspension-and-25000-fine.html

Seems about right. You could maybe argue for a larger fine, although the money lost due to the suspension is punitive.
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Re: Andrew Bynum
« Reply #54 on: May 10, 2011, 08:04:43 PM »

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Andrew Bynum got a 5 game suspension ($667,000 in forfeited salary .. ouch) and a $25,000 fine.

http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakersblog/2011/05/andrew-bynum-gets-five-game-suspension-and-25000-fine.html

Seems about right. You could maybe argue for a larger fine, although the money lost due to the suspension is punitive.

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« Reply #55 on: May 10, 2011, 08:13:01 PM »

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Not enough of a suspension. I mean, this is the guy's THIRD TIME doing the same thing...clearly hitting a player with his forearm. He could have seriously hurt Barea and Beasley, and did seriously injure Gerald Wallace. He should have been suspended 10-20 games. You want to make it clear that dangerous plays like that will not be tolerated, especially from a repeat offender.

Re: Andrew Bynum
« Reply #56 on: May 10, 2011, 09:15:21 PM »

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He should have been suspended 10-20 games.

Agree with this 100%.  How many times does this guy have to attempt to injure someone?  Maybe if Barea broke his arm then these clowns in the league office would decide it's time to get serious.  At minimum he should've gotten 10 games. 

Re: Andrew Bynum
« Reply #57 on: May 10, 2011, 09:43:09 PM »

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He should have been suspended 10-20 games.

Agree with this 100%.  How many times does this guy have to attempt to injure someone?  Maybe if Barea broke his arm then these clowns in the league office would decide it's time to get serious.  At minimum he should've gotten 10 games.  

I agree, too.  The problem from the league's perspective is that it doesn't have a lot of precedent for suspensions of that length, and the union would throw a fit if it was 20 games.  The league's best strategy may be to make 5 games the new norm for intent to injure, and gradually increase penalties.

Of course, I wish the league would just say "screw the union" and go with 20 games or so.  However, I'm not sure it's realistic.

It does seem out of whack, though, that Rashard Lewis gets suspended 10 games for steroids, and Birdman gets kicked out of the league for more than a year for drugs, but Bynum get's suspended for 5 games for an intentional action that easily could have seriously injured another player.


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Re: Andrew Bynum
« Reply #58 on: May 10, 2011, 09:55:24 PM »

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Bynum is a little overrated.. Everyone calls him the 2nd best center in the league. he's not that good.

Re: Andrew Bynum
« Reply #59 on: May 10, 2011, 10:46:20 PM »

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He should have been suspended 10-20 games.

Agree with this 100%.  How many times does this guy have to attempt to injure someone?  Maybe if Barea broke his arm then these clowns in the league office would decide it's time to get serious.  At minimum he should've gotten 10 games.  

I agree, too.  The problem from the league's perspective is that it doesn't have a lot of precedent for suspensions of that length, and the union would throw a fit if it was 20 games.  The league's best strategy may be to make 5 games the new norm for intent to injure, and gradually increase penalties.

Of course, I wish the league would just say "screw the union" and go with 20 games or so.  However, I'm not sure it's realistic.

It does seem out of whack, though, that Rashard Lewis gets suspended 10 games for steroids, and Birdman gets kicked out of the league for more than a year for drugs, but Bynum get's suspended for 5 games for an intentional action that easily could have seriously injured another player.

Your last paragraph really hit the point home.  That foul was a deliberate act to injure another player.  He is an absolute embarrassment to the Lakers.  After seeing the other Bynum take-downs against other players, I definitely feel it should have been at least a 10 game suspension.  Add to that Bynum's interview right after the game showed absolutely NO remorse. 

I like Bynum's potential as a player, he has all the physical tools to be a massively dominant center.  But unfortunately he doesn't have the basketball IQ or the heart to ever be able to be something special.  He is just a big tall thug.  Very glad the Mavs brought their a-game to the lakers.  You gotta win like a champion and LOSE like a champion.  Bynum doesn't understand that at all.