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Re: Why not Avery Bradley
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2011, 03:57:19 AM »

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I also think Avery would be ate alive at the point in this series. I also don't think Doc should play him over Von at the 2 spot.

I have high hopes for Avery, but he will have to show a lot more than he has to get any burn ahead of any of our other guards!
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Re: Why not Avery Bradley
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2011, 06:49:31 AM »

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If bradley has showing confidence in shooting I'd go along with it, his defensive work full court could come in handy.  He won't see court time til next season.  If rondo can't play it'll be west and arroyo with maybe some sg minutes for wafer.

Re: Why not Avery Bradley
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2011, 07:31:45 AM »

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I know that Doc doesn't really like rookies, but Avery Bradley has been in the C's system all year and he's a quick, dynamic, pass first point guard. His upside is way higher than someone like Arroyo. Why not give him a chance in Game 4 and beyond if Rondo and West can't play - or can't play effectively?
He's not even a point guard, let alone pass-first. He's an undersized shooting guard who can't really shoot. If Rondo or West could _walk_, they're both exponentially better players than Avery Bradley is right now.
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Re: Why not Avery Bradley
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2011, 08:03:29 AM »

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Avery is no where near ready to play in a playoff series, im hoping next year is his year. The series against the knicks we could have used him as a ball presurer agaist anthony carter but not against the heat.
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Re: Why not Avery Bradley
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2011, 08:05:50 AM »

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AB right now is a D-League-level player with NBA talent, not a guy ready to step into the conference semi-finals.

Re: Why not Avery Bradley
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2011, 08:51:14 AM »

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I know that Doc doesn't really like rookies, but Avery Bradley has been in the C's system all year and he's a quick, dynamic, pass first point guard. His upside is way higher than someone like Arroyo. Why not give him a chance in Game 4 and beyond if Rondo and West can't play - or can't play effectively?

Uhhh, no he isn't.

At least not yet.

Yeah he is a dribble first point guard. He has trouble getting passes off never mind shots.

Athletically this kid is a prospect but he needs some serious work on his game confidence out there. He doesnt have much of a handle out there. IF he ever steps on the floor in the playoffs, he will need to be out there with 2 other ballhandlers at a minimum

Re: Why not Avery Bradley
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2011, 09:20:51 AM »

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I'd prefer to see Bradley over Arroyo, though that isn't saying much. Even if Rondo and West were unable to play - and that seems incredibly unlikely - I'd still prefer to keep both out of the lineup.

Re: Why not Avery Bradley
« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2011, 09:28:26 AM »

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As much as we all want him to be, Avery is not a PG. He just has no ball-handling skills, and doesn't quite have the intuitive court vision a PG needs.

Here's hoping he has another growth spurt in him and he can shoot up another 2 inches or so. Then he can slide on over to SG where he belongs.

Well you could say the same for Derrick Rose, and I think he's doing well in the NBA

HOnestly, I think Avery is better off the ball playing alongside Rondo. IMO that would be a great defensive backcourt

Re: Why not Avery Bradley
« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2011, 09:30:17 AM »

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He is a risk indeed at this point but I would want him too see minutes in this series. Actually, I thought Doc could have experimented on Avery in game 2 - the game that I believed to have been used to try some line up and experiments. DWest was awfully slow in game 1. The South Beach boys use speed and athleticism in this series and I think Bradley could somehow contribute in some ways such as slowing down and even challenging the offensive thrust that Chalmers and DWade do. Anyway, if Rondo isnt on the floor all the team needs is someone who brings down the ball as quickly and safely as possible (Bradley in this case) and let PP and Ray do the directing of the plays. Over Rondo, Bradley remains to have a more decent and acceptable jumpshot.

Re: Why not Avery Bradley
« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2011, 09:32:03 AM »

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As much as we all want him to be, Avery is not a PG. He just has no ball-handling skills, and doesn't quite have the intuitive court vision a PG needs.

Here's hoping he has another growth spurt in him and he can shoot up another 2 inches or so. Then he can slide on over to SG where he belongs.



Well you could say the same for Derrick Rose, and I think he's doing well in the NBA

HOnestly, I think Avery is better off the ball playing alongside Rondo. IMO that would be a great defensive backcourt

Derrick Rose is a terrific ball handler. He has the ball in his hands ALL the time and gets to any spot he wants to on the court. Also, his court vision is not elite, but it is pretty dang good. I strongly disagree with your point here.

Re: Why not Avery Bradley
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2011, 09:37:53 AM »

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As much as we all want him to be, Avery is not a PG. He just has no ball-handling skills, and doesn't quite have the intuitive court vision a PG needs.

Here's hoping he has another growth spurt in him and he can shoot up another 2 inches or so. Then he can slide on over to SG where he belongs.



Well you could say the same for Derrick Rose, and I think he's doing well in the NBA

HOnestly, I think Avery is better off the ball playing alongside Rondo. IMO that would be a great defensive backcourt

Derrick Rose is a terrific ball handler. He has the ball in his hands ALL the time and gets to any spot he wants to on the court. Also, his court vision is not elite, but it is pretty dang good. I strongly disagree with your point here.

IMO he has a shooting guard mentality. Score, score, score
He uses his athleticsm to mask his average ball-handling skills. with crossovers and blow-bye's. Can't dribble into traffic. All the things fans criticize about Avery, Rose does the same thing

Re: Why not Avery Bradley
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2011, 09:46:20 AM »

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I know that Doc doesn't really like rookies, but Avery Bradley has been in the C's system all year and he's a quick, dynamic, pass first point guard. His upside is way higher than someone like Arroyo. Why not give him a chance in Game 4 and beyond if Rondo and West can't play - or can't play effectively?

I agree with you
I think Avery should play, maybe in the 10 min range. He would take Mike Bibby and Chalmers out the game with his harassing defense. And he would have a long leash and be as aggressive as he wants. It really doesn't matter if he gets in foul trouble

Re: Why not Avery Bradley
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2011, 09:53:07 AM »

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As much as we all want him to be, Avery is not a PG. He just has no ball-handling skills, and doesn't quite have the intuitive court vision a PG needs.

Here's hoping he has another growth spurt in him and he can shoot up another 2 inches or so. Then he can slide on over to SG where he belongs.



Well you could say the same for Derrick Rose, and I think he's doing well in the NBA

HOnestly, I think Avery is better off the ball playing alongside Rondo. IMO that would be a great defensive backcourt

Derrick Rose is a terrific ball handler. He has the ball in his hands ALL the time and gets to any spot he wants to on the court. Also, his court vision is not elite, but it is pretty dang good. I strongly disagree with your point here.

IMO he has a shooting guard mentality. Score, score, score
He uses his athleticsm to mask his average ball-handling skills. with crossovers and blow-bye's. Can't dribble into traffic. All the things fans criticize about Avery, Rose does the same thing

Were definitely not going to come to agreement on this one.

Derrick Rose LIVES in traffic. How are his ballhandling skills average when he uses crossovers and blow bys? I dont get it. I see Rose dribbling through two three defenders at a time. In the trees.

I guess he doesnt have a traditional Bob Cousy dribble. He keepds the ball high, but he doesnt turn it over a ton.

Bradley is a turnover waiting to happen. He doesnt have the ball skills to get by his defender. He can hit pull up midrange jumpers and play defense. Asking him to do anything else gets him way out of his comfort zone at this point in his career.

Comparing Bradleys shortcomings to Derrick Rose's is a huge overstatement of Rose's flaws, and an understatement of Bradley's.

I like Bradley as a prospect but he has to work on hius game to be anything more than he is right now. A DNPCD in the playoffs.

Re: Why not Avery Bradley
« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2011, 10:00:10 AM »

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I think it could be worth a shot.  Are we really going to roll out Carlos Arroyo against the team who CUT him already this season??  I mean, I know the answer would turn out to be yes.  But how does that sound like a remotely good idea when put in those terms?
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Re: Why not Avery Bradley
« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2011, 10:16:08 AM »

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As much as we all want him to be, Avery is not a PG. He just has no ball-handling skills, and doesn't quite have the intuitive court vision a PG needs.

Here's hoping he has another growth spurt in him and he can shoot up another 2 inches or so. Then he can slide on over to SG where he belongs.



Well you could say the same for Derrick Rose, and I think he's doing well in the NBA

HOnestly, I think Avery is better off the ball playing alongside Rondo. IMO that would be a great defensive backcourt

Derrick Rose is a terrific ball handler. He has the ball in his hands ALL the time and gets to any spot he wants to on the court. Also, his court vision is not elite, but it is pretty dang good. I strongly disagree with your point here.

IMO he has a shooting guard mentality. Score, score, score
He uses his athleticsm to mask his average ball-handling skills. with crossovers and blow-bye's. Can't dribble into traffic. All the things fans criticize about Avery, Rose does the same thing

Were definitely not going to come to agreement on this one.

Derrick Rose LIVES in traffic. How are his ballhandling skills average when he uses crossovers and blow bys? I dont get it. I see Rose dribbling through two three defenders at a time. In the trees.

I guess he doesnt have a traditional Bob Cousy dribble. He keepds the ball high, but he doesnt turn it over a ton.

Bradley is a turnover waiting to happen. He doesnt have the ball skills to get by his defender. He can hit pull up midrange jumpers and play defense. Asking him to do anything else gets him way out of his comfort zone at this point in his career.

Comparing Bradleys shortcomings to Derrick Rose's is a huge overstatement of Rose's flaws, and an understatement of Bradley's.

I like Bradley as a prospect but he has to work on hius game to be anything more than he is right now. A DNPCD in the playoffs.

You got a point that Bradley needs to improve greatly
But his game is a mirror image of Rose

And ball-handling for Rose is average at best. Speed and quickness are a big part of the way he gets by people