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Stern wants a few rule changes going forward
« on: April 28, 2011, 10:41:15 AM »

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Just read this brief excerpt from a radio interview in Miami, according to this David Stern has a few rule changes in mind. First he wants to adopt the international goaltending rule, meaning that while the ball is resting on the rim it can be grabbed off. I'm not so crazy about this one, I think it takes a bit of the skill out of basketball and just favors the athletes, not to mention how many last second shots could potentially be ruined.

The second one he mentions is one that I am 100% on board with. He wants to remove one or two timeouts per game. I have said for years that the game slows down too much in the fourth quarter, remove a couple of timeouts and teams will have to react on the fly rather than constantly stopping the action and getting set. I think this one makes for a much more interesting game.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/213386/Stern_Favors_International_Goaltending_Rule

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The second one he mentions is one that I am 100% on board with. He wants to remove one or two timeouts per game. I have said for years that the game slows down too much in the fourth quarter, remove a couple of timeouts and teams will have to react on the fly rather than constantly stopping the action and getting set. I think this one makes for a much more interesting game.
The problem isn't how many time outs the coaches have. Its the number of TV time outs they take.

In the fourth quarter there are time outs at what 9,6,3? Not to mention they'll actually go to commercial during 20 second time outs at times (at least that's what it seems like to me)

Plus of the timeouts a team has, some of them are bogus that are mandatory at certain TV breaks. I remember a team getting a technical late in a game because he burned through all of his timeouts before that trying to keep his team in the game.

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The second one he mentions is one that I am 100% on board with. He wants to remove one or two timeouts per game. I have said for years that the game slows down too much in the fourth quarter, remove a couple of timeouts and teams will have to react on the fly rather than constantly stopping the action and getting set. I think this one makes for a much more interesting game.
I'd love to see that happen. Far too many stoppages and too many lengthily stoppages in today's game. Things have been getting worse and worse over the last 20+ years in this regard.

It's great that they are finally addressing it.

I'd love to see them get rid of those replays too. I'd rather live with a few incorrect calls than have games come to a complete halt for 3 minutes while referees group around a TV monitor and watch replays over and over, and over and over again.

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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2011, 10:55:00 AM »

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Just read this brief excerpt from a radio interview in Miami, according to this David Stern has a few rule changes in mind. First he wants to adopt the international goaltending rule, meaning that while the ball is resting on the rim it can be grabbed off. I'm not so crazy about this one, I think it takes a bit of the skill out of basketball and just favors the athletes, not to mention how many last second shots could potentially be ruined.

The second one he mentions is one that I am 100% on board with. He wants to remove one or two timeouts per game. I have said for years that the game slows down too much in the fourth quarter, remove a couple of timeouts and teams will have to react on the fly rather than constantly stopping the action and getting set. I think this one makes for a much more interesting game.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/213386/Stern_Favors_International_Goaltending_Rule

It works both ways since offensive players can also go and dunk the basketball. But yeah, I'm not a fan of it particularly in a league with so many athletic leapers. But I imagine I'd be alright with it, could end up being quite fun.

I don't think we need to speed off the game by limiting time-outs. You want to speed it up? How about you allow the game to be a bit more physical and stop calling all these crappy touch fouls which is as inconsistent as it comes?


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The second one he mentions is one that I am 100% on board with. He wants to remove one or two timeouts per game. I have said for years that the game slows down too much in the fourth quarter, remove a couple of timeouts and teams will have to react on the fly rather than constantly stopping the action and getting set. I think this one makes for a much more interesting game.
I'd love to see that happen. Far too many stoppages and too many lengthily stoppages in today's game. Things have been getting worse and worse over the last 20+ years in this regard.

It's great that they are finally addressing it.

I'd love to see them get rid of those replays too. I'd rather live with a few incorrect calls than have games come to a complete halt for 3 minutes while referees group around a TV monitor and watch replays over and over, and over and over again.

They don't need to get rid of replays, they just need to have a better system. By the time the ref makes a decision everyone knows about 2 minutes before hand what the correct call is. So what they need, if anything, is have a person in charge of monitoring the game.

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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2011, 11:05:21 AM »

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I hate the international goaltending rule and hope they don't implement it.

No problem with eliminating a couple of timeouts, though.  The game slows down way too much.


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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2011, 11:11:19 AM »

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The first one seems to be an attempt to increase the amount of points scored in a game (as they did several years ago with the hand checking rule).  I would think more points and more dunks would appeal to the casual fans a lot more than maybe, players working on their free throws, jump shots or any other of the boring fundamentals.

The timeouts will never happen.  The league is at the mercy of the TV networks.  Look no further than the playoff scheduling if you don't know what I mean.

I wish they'd get rid of of the charge circle.  I get why it's there but I think it forces the refs to call something, no matter how minimal the contact.  Let there be a little contact around the rim.  

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Just read this brief excerpt from a radio interview in Miami, according to this David Stern has a few rule changes in mind. First he wants to adopt the international goaltending rule, meaning that while the ball is resting on the rim it can be grabbed off. I'm not so crazy about this one, I think it takes a bit of the skill out of basketball and just favors the athletes, not to mention how many last second shots could potentially be ruined.

The second one he mentions is one that I am 100% on board with. He wants to remove one or two timeouts per game. I have said for years that the game slows down too much in the fourth quarter, remove a couple of timeouts and teams will have to react on the fly rather than constantly stopping the action and getting set. I think this one makes for a much more interesting game.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/213386/Stern_Favors_International_Goaltending_Rule

It works both ways since offensive players can also go and dunk the basketball. But yeah, I'm not a fan of it particularly in a league with so many athletic leapers. But I imagine I'd be alright with it, could end up being quite fun.

I don't think we need to speed off the game by limiting time-outs. You want to speed it up? How about you allow the game to be a bit more physical and stop calling all these crappy touch fouls which is as inconsistent as it comes?



Well obviously the touch fouls are a joke, the officiating in the NBA is a laughable at every level, but Stern will never address that. He would much rather Lebron score 40 and a B/C level player foul out than call a fair game and have Lebron only put up 25, since he travels, and offensive fouls on almost every play.

The first one seems to be an attempt to increase the amount of points scored in a game (as they did several years ago with the hand checking rule).  I would think more points and more dunks would appeal to the casual fans a lot more than maybe, players working on their free throws, jump shots or any other of the boring fundamentals.

The timeouts will never happen.  The league is at the mercy of the TV networks.  Look no further than the playoff scheduling if you don't know what I mean.

I wish they'd get rid of of the charge circle.  I get why it's there but I think it forces the refs to call something, no matter how minimal the contact.  Let there be a little contact around the rim. 

Agreed the circle is useless, it makes it easy for the refs to just look at a guys feet and never even bother to think about if he just undercut a guy in the air. I loved when players used to try and block shots, play defense and stop undercutting.

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I like the slow 4th quarter. especially in the playoffs. it's becomes like playing chess between the coaches. I think that's one of the most interesting parts.

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I like the slow 4th quarter. especially in the playoffs. it's becomes like playing chess between the coaches. I think that's one of the most interesting parts.

I agree. Maybe cut timeouts throughout the season only.

As for the circle, I actually like it.

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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2011, 12:20:04 PM »

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The second one he mentions is one that I am 100% on board with. He wants to remove one or two timeouts per game. I have said for years that the game slows down too much in the fourth quarter, remove a couple of timeouts and teams will have to react on the fly rather than constantly stopping the action and getting set. I think this one makes for a much more interesting game.
The problem isn't how many time outs the coaches have. Its the number of TV time outs they take.

In the fourth quarter there are time outs at what 9,6,3? Not to mention they'll actually go to commercial during 20 second time outs at times (at least that's what it seems like to me)

Plus of the timeouts a team has, some of them are bogus that are mandatory at certain TV breaks. I remember a team getting a technical late in a game because he burned through all of his timeouts before that trying to keep his team in the game.

Is that true?  I never noticed; I thought it was only at 6 for every quarter.  If so, that is way too much.  I agree, make teams play more on the fly - it's so exciting. 

That last story is hilarious.  What a flawed system.  Penalized for using all of your given timeouts.
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The second one he mentions is one that I am 100% on board with. He wants to remove one or two timeouts per game. I have said for years that the game slows down too much in the fourth quarter, remove a couple of timeouts and teams will have to react on the fly rather than constantly stopping the action and getting set. I think this one makes for a much more interesting game.
I'd love to see that happen. Far too many stoppages and too many lengthily stoppages in today's game. Things have been getting worse and worse over the last 20+ years in this regard.

It's great that they are finally addressing it.

I'd love to see them get rid of those replays too. I'd rather live with a few incorrect calls than have games come to a complete halt for 3 minutes while referees group around a TV monitor and watch replays over and over, and over and over again.

They don't need to get rid of replays, they just need to have a better system. By the time the ref makes a decision everyone knows about 2 minutes before hand what the correct call is. So what they need, if anything, is have a person in charge of monitoring the game.

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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2011, 12:22:24 PM »

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I like the slow 4th quarter. especially in the playoffs. it's becomes like playing chess between the coaches. I think that's one of the most interesting parts.

I agree. Maybe cut timeouts throughout the season only.

As for the circle, I actually like it.
I wasn't a fan of the circle at first but I've come around on it.  It seems to eliminate a lot of the inconsistancy by the refs on those calls.

I don't the goaltending change.  it's a gimmick.

cutting the number of timeouts won't really do much.  I could see if they were limiting the number of timeouts to no more than the number of minutes per game.  For example, only 1 timeout allowed if less than a 1 minute; 2 timeouts if under 2 minutes, etc...   That would keep the game flowing near the end while allowing a coach to use one or two early in the half to stem another team's run.

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I wouldn't mind getting rid of the circle.  I don't care if they keep it but if a guy has the position but is on the line he shouldn't be called for a foul.
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