Jeff Green needs the endeavor and heart of Gerald wallace

[GreenEnvy]

I know it is just two games

Its not just two games. He did play in 24-26 regular season games before the playoffs. I understand it doesn't compare to the whole training camp but he is talented enough to produce more than he has thus far.

Since we are just talking about box scores and stats, show me the stat-stuffing that Perk put up with regularity.

By my count, he had precisely ZERO double-doubles in the playoffs last year. His highs were 13 points and 12 rebounds. Hardly dominating. Want to talk about our lack of rebounding? Where was he to help?

Let's wait and see with Green. It was two games. In the regular season I recall seeing him abuse the second units opponents needed instant double-teams.

[barefacedmonk]

I know it is just two games

Its not just two games. He did play in 24-26 regular season games before the playoffs. I understand it doesn't compare to the whole training camp but he is talented enough to produce more than he has thus far.

Since we are just talking about box scores and stats, show me the stat-stuffing that Perk put up with regularity.

Third post...do you seriously even read anything or just jump to conculsions?? I haven't mentioned the trade or Perkins in that post. Read and then reply. Don't jump to conclusions. Not every post that has "Jeff Green" in it is related to the trade.

[vinnie]

I know it is just two games

Its not just two games. He did play in 24-26 regular season games before the playoffs. I understand it doesn't compare to the whole training camp but he is talented enough to produce more than he has thus far.

Since we are just talking about box scores and stats, show me the stat-stuffing that Perk put up with regularity.

By my count, he had precisely ZERO double-doubles in the playoffs last year. His highs were 13 points and 12 rebounds. Hardly dominating. Want to talk about our lack of rebounding? Where was he to help?

Let's wait and see with Green. It was two games. In the regular season I recall seeing him abuse the second units opponents needed instant double-teams.

I would like to know in how many games Jeff Green "abused" the second unit of the opponent. My guess would be 3 or 4 at Max out of 26 games. Not too impressive. If the guy is not scoring, he really is offering nothing to this team. And the fact that Doc only played him 12 minutes tonight sends a pretty loud message.

[celtic -_- pride]

I know it is just two games

Its not just two games. He did play in 24-26 regular season games before the playoffs. I understand it doesn't compare to the whole training camp but he is talented enough to produce more than he has thus far.

Since we are just talking about box scores and stats, show me the stat-stuffing that Perk put up with regularity.

By my count, he had precisely ZERO double-doubles in the playoffs last year. His highs were 13 points and 12 rebounds. Hardly dominating. Want to talk about our lack of rebounding? Where was he to help?

Let's wait and see with Green. It was two games. In the regular season I recall seeing him abuse the second units opponents needed instant double-teams.

I would like to know in how many games Jeff Green "abused" the second unit of the opponent. My guess would be 3 or 4 at Max out of 26 games. Not too impressive. If the guy is not scoring, he really is offering nothing to this team. And the fact that Doc only played him 12 minutes tonight sends a pretty loud message.

he was in foul trouble... i expect jeff green to win us a playoff game somewhere. one good game in the playoffs can set off his confidence which we desperately need

[Kuberski1]

And if he is to have such a breakout game, it would probably come on the road.  He's playing like he was the center-piece of a controversial trade, which sent away a much beloved player, and on whom the home crowd has very high expectations.  Maybe he will loosen up some in MSG, where everyone wants him to fail....

[GreenEnvy]

I know it is just two games

Its not just two games. He did play in 24-26 regular season games before the playoffs. I understand it doesn't compare to the whole training camp but he is talented enough to produce more than he has thus far.

Since we are just talking about box scores and stats, show me the stat-stuffing that Perk put up with regularity.

By my count, he had precisely ZERO double-doubles in the playoffs last year. His highs were 13 points and 12 rebounds. Hardly dominating. Want to talk about our lack of rebounding? Where was he to help?

Let's wait and see with Green. It was two games. In the regular season I recall seeing him abuse the second units opponents needed instant double-teams.

I would like to know in how many games Jeff Green "abused" the second unit of the opponent. My guess would be 3 or 4 at Max out of 26 games. Not too impressive. If the guy is not scoring, he really is offering nothing to this team. And the fact that Doc only played him 12 minutes tonight sends a pretty loud message.

See, that's the thing, it doesn't scream out at you in the box scores, much like Perks impact (which was my point).

I will assume you watch all/most C's games. He has few opportunities to take over because of the play-calling and his PT. Remember against Miami, he subbed in and went right at Miller and totally took advantage. Mike Miller CANNOT guard Jeff Green, for this I am positive. The box score may not reflect it, but anytime Miller is in against us (assuming both teams advance), please Doc put Green in.

Green is an unusual player. Maybe he isn't emotional enough for some, but he can do many things on the court. People like to talk about his rebounding, but in his first start for us he grabbed a team-high 15 boards. It's not easy going from a starter your whole life to getting minutes here and there throughout a game and having fans expect the world out of you.

And then Perk's 6-point, 7-rebound, 1-block, 0-assist, 3-turnover games are gems.

[17wasEZ]

12 minutes for "the best player in the deal" tonight, and he shot a sizzling 2-8 from the floor and 1-2 from the line. Meanwhile, his partner in crime played 3 minutes and contributed a big goose egg. Right now, this trade looks worse than it ever had. Unbelievable.

You should get 10 TP's. I am glad to see that he was aggressive enough to take 8 shots in 12 minutes.  That tells me his teammates/coaches are telling him to shoot when he is open.

[jdub1660]

12 minutes for "the best player in the deal" tonight, and he shot a sizzling 2-8 from the floor and 1-2 from the line. Meanwhile, his partner in crime played 3 minutes and contributed a big goose egg. Right now, this trade looks worse than it ever had. Unbelievable.

Can we please for the love of god not bring this around to the trade again?

Keep it on topic.

You are right. So far, Jeff Green has been pretty much a bust for the Celtics. Most passive player I have ever seen.

Passive? He attempted 8 shots in 12 minutes.

If Glen Davis had done the same, this would be another "Baby = Black Hole" threads. 

From what I have seen, his whole approach to the game is to lay back and watch what happens. Yes, he took 8 shots tonight, which is a lot for him. Normally he takes 3-4. When I talk passive, I basically mean a guy without a killer instinct. That is Jeff Green. The one thing good for the Celts is if they want to keep him, he has probably lowered his value since coming here.

TP. Noway he's worth 8-10 mil per year. We need to get him on a contract somewhere above the MidLvlExp, if there is one next year. Otherwise, trade him to Memphis with the Clipper pick and another 1st for Rudy Gay

[LooseCannon]

Rudy Gay is a player who is being paid more than twice what he is worth.  Ainge should insist on receiving draft picks to compensate for taking on that contract.

Green feels to me like the kind of player who needs a well-defined role under a
"system" coach.  I also think he would benefit from having a pass-first point guard in the second unit.

[celtic -_- pride]

boston needs to embrace jeff green more because whether you like it or not perkins isnt coming back. kid just needs confidence and what a better way than to get the crowd behind him

[BudweiserCeltic]

I think the Knicks' long arms are bothering him. I'd like to see him play more in the 3spot and then post him up as it seems like playing him in the 4 against this Knicks team won't be of much use unless he's being used to stand around at the 3point line, which I don't like.

[Jeff]

I think it is totally fair to expect more out of Jeff Green - he needs to step up more for our second unit

this guy was a starter on a playoff contender - he should be able to step up when we need him in the playoffs

I still think he will, but I'm tired of waiting

[vinnie]

boston needs to embrace jeff green more because whether you like it or not perkins isnt coming back. kid just needs confidence and what a better way than to get the crowd behind him

I think Jeff Green will be part of a trade down the line. At least I hope he is.

[celtics2]

Green has talent for starting. He has been taken out of his element and now it's all Greek to him. He needs some couch time big time. Can't ya tell he loves Boston. The weather and the style of shoving, grabbing and just how uncivilized we are. He eats his lunch with a napkin tucked in his shirt. Amazing long ago the West was tough. Now we are the Beasts.

[ThaPreacher]

boston needs to embrace jeff green more because whether you like it or not perkins isnt coming back. kid just needs confidence and what a better way than to get the crowd behind him

Come on!  This is Boston!  When one of or beloved gets traded, we don't embrace the new guy.
We design to judge too severely, we are overcritical, ostentatious, and intolerant.  We scrutinize their every move.  If they play well, we are skeptical, brooding over it.  If they play poorly or fail to live up to expectation we rant.  Then if that is not enough, We cut them just to see if they bleed.  


Jeff Green is a multi-talented individual.  Be patient Boston.  Embrace him. 
Accentuate the positive, so he can eliminate the negative.