We were terrible at rebounding the ball

[ram]

I don't understand the lineup of
Baby
Green
Pierce
Rondo
West

My high school team was as tall as those 5. Pierce is the best rebounder of the group (Rondo 2nd).

I'd like to see a 2nd unit (that runs, runs and runs some more) of Kristc, Murphy, Green, West with Rondo. My rotation would be Rondo comes out first so he can play at the end of the quarter with the 2nd unit (instead of Ray or PP).

Murphy's best asset is his defensive rebounding and that can start the break. His and Krstic's defensive defiencies might be masked by using their fouls and the other 3 pressuring the perimeter. Then run off of every miss. Green's best asset is his speed-he's the only player who gets downcourt with Rondo on the break. West can play that way, too.

I'd like to try that. Or, if you are going to go small, Pavlovic for Krstic. But you gotta run with the 2nd unit.

[Marcus13]

Also, when Green and Baby are manning the 4-5 - we have virtually no chance of actually pulling down a rebound...or defending anyone from doing anything in the paint

[slamtheking]

We outrebounded them in Game 1 and we won.

They outrebounded us in Game 2 and we won.

Rebounding is overrated.

it's not overrated, it's a means to an end. 

if the C's had grabbed more defensive rebounds, the Knicks get less second-chance points as a result.  This enables the C's to build more of a cushion down the stretch and not have to rely on a end of game KG shot and steal to seal the win.

[ram]

Also, when Green and Baby are manning the 4-5 - we have virtually no chance of actually pulling down a rebound...or defending anyone from doing anything in the paint
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exactly. They drive to the rim with impunity and get 2nd and 3rd shots.

[Roy H.]

We outrebounded them in Game 1 and we won.

They outrebounded us in Game 2 and we won.

Rebounding is overrated.

The Knicks shot 35.6% from the field, and yet came within a possession of beating us.  Why?  Because they got 7 more shot attempts and 11 more FTAs.  Since they actually had more TOs than us, this disparity in attempts / possessions is pretty much solely due to rebounding.

[BudweiserCeltic]

This is simple, when we crash the boards with the whole team we rebound. When we don't we have trouble.

In the first game, everyone was going after defensive rebounds. Last night not so much, and it showed.

The Knicks have a lot of players with long arms which bothers us, evident with how they're bothering Jeff and Davis on the defensive end, and they make it difficult for us to rebound the ball. So let's get everyone involved.

It also doesn't help when Doc goes small with Davis at the 5.

I don't know why we aren't seeing more of Jeff at the 3 with Paul at the 2.

Because Doc prefers to have Ray Allen on the court.

I'd rather sit and play Pierce when West is in there to get more ball handling, playmaking. And let Ray be in there when Rondo is in the floor.

[ram]

The Knicks shot 35.6% from the field, and yet came within a possession of beating us.  Why?  Because they got 7 more shot attempts and 11 more FTAs.  Since they actually had more TOs than us, this disparity in attempts / possessions is pretty much solely due to rebounding.
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Not only that but they got several wide open 3s to fall coming off offensive rebounds.

[rgreen165]

We outrebounded them in Game 1 and we won.

They outrebounded us in Game 2 and we won.

Rebounding is overrated.

Overrated?? What happened in game 7 of The Finals last year? Lakers shot around 32% and still beat us. They had 23 OFFENSIVE rebounds to our 8, I don't think it's overrated

[kg is king]

We outrebounded them in Game 1 and we won.

They outrebounded us in Game 2 and we won.

Rebounding is overrated.

Overrated?? What happened in game 7 of The Finals last year? Lakers shot around 32% and still beat us. They had 23 OFFENSIVE rebounds to our 8, I don't think it's overrated

We doubled Melo after he got hot, leaving us one man short to crash the boards, that had alot to do with that. As to game 7, we were just straight up out-matched.

[MBunge]

Again, Krstic is mental and dismal defender, when your 7ft and decent size , he needs to stand in there a guard the dang rim. If he fouls out in 10 minutes thats ok, PLEASE grab some rebounds and make a stop or two.  He is scard to take his lumps inside .  He avoids all the contact or runs from it.

At least Davis will mix it up , push and shove , and show effort underneath.

We have plenty of offensive weapons , we need more HARD nose players like KG and Davis and West.

Sorry, but this is just unfair and wrong.  As great a job as Doc has done coaching in other areas this season, he has been a disaster when it comes to handling both Nenad and Green.  I'm not saying those guys don't need to play better, but Doc did a better job at handling Semih than he has Nenad and it's asking a lot of a career starter like Green to be the 3rd or 4th option offensively on the second unit.  Unless he's being guarded by a smaller man in the post, how many times have you ever seen Boston run a play to get Green a shot?  There have been many times this season when Ray and Baby have played like crap during games, but Doc let's them play through it.  Green and especially Nenad get no such chance.

Mike

[Tai]

We outrebounded them in Game 1 and we won.

They outrebounded us in Game 2 and we won.

Rebounding is overrated.

Overrated?? What happened in game 7 of The Finals last year? Lakers shot around 32% and still beat us. They had 23 OFFENSIVE rebounds to our 8, I don't think it's overrated

Agreed. It's one thing if we don't get that many offensive rebounds ourselves since chances are that's because we're always trying to prevent transition points, but the Celtics gave up 20 offensive rebounds in Game 2 against the Knicks, compared to 13 in Game 1. That's awful.

I don't even think giving up 13 offensive rebounds in Game 1 is something to be proud of, even if the Celtics got 15 of their own then. But 20 offensive rebounds given up??? I don't know how to justify that EXCEPT to simply say we won. Still, they can't keep giving up that many offensive rebounds. If we keep giving so many up, I'll agree whole-heartedly with those that say we won't go far this playoffs.

[Chris]

While the bigs (particularly Davis, who was horrible) need to do a much better job rebounding the ball, I think the bigger problem last night was with the perimeter guys.  When the C's are at their best, Rondo and Pierce in particular have a lot of rebounds.  

The C's system really relies heavily on the perimeter guys to defensive rebound, because they ask their bigs to spend so much time blitzing the perimeter (its even worse against a team like the Knicks with such good spacing).  However, last night, they were not crashing down at all, and instead were leaking out.

Now, this certainly helped their offense, and Rondo in particular had more than a handful of easy baskets because of his leaking out.  However, particularly when they didn't have both KG and JO in there, this was a major reason why they kept losing the rebounds.  

With the Knicks, who shoot a ton of long jumpers, there are a lot of long rebounds, and those become easy pickings for the offense when the other team is already leaking out.

Next game is going to be really interesting to see what Doc does about this.  Will he sacrifice some of the fast breaks in order to lock down on the rebounds?  Personally, I think they need to find some sort of balance.  But this is going to be a real challenge for game 3, since it will be a VERY hostile environment, and the energy in the building will be through the hoop.  

[Gianger]

If the only problem, is our rebounding, then we should be happy.
As long as Doc insists using BBD as C we have no chance doing something good.
The only thing, right now, this team needs, is a decent Center.
I can’t stand anymore watching this BBD making all the other teams big guys happy.
I also don’t understand why this team has forgotten what a good player J.Green is.
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The games with Knicks don’t count for me, because these guys always will find a way to lose

Regards from greece

[StartOrien]

Anyone have the number on the final rebounding rate? I know close to the end the Knicks were grabbing something like 42% of all available offensive rebounds .

[kozlodoev]

We outrebounded them in Game 1 and we won.

They outrebounded us in Game 2 and we won.

Rebounding is overrated.

The Knicks shot 35.6% from the field, and yet came within a possession of beating us.  Why?  Because they got 7 more shot attempts and 11 more FTAs.  Since they actually had more TOs than us, this disparity in attempts / possessions is pretty much solely due to rebounding.

Actually, I thought it was mostly because they went to the line for every whiff in their direction (some calls on Green and Davis were especially bad). But worse than that, we couldn't get the same calls on the other end in identical situations.

The 20 ORs were bad, but the defense was usually good enough to get multiple stops in those situations.