Zac Randolph gets supposed four year $71 million deal with Grizzlies...darn it!

[Who]

The word out of Tn (where I live), is that the Grizzlies can't afford three max players. Most thought Zach would be the odd man out. There is no way they are getting rid of Gasol, which leads me to believe Rudy Gay could be had.

Marc Gasol is not a max contract player. He is a $9-11 million year guy.

Although Memphis could be forced to overpay and put him in the $12-13 million bracket given the free agent market this summer. Still considerably less than a max contract.

[KungPoweChicken]

Sounds a bit steep for Zac.

[Moranis]

The word out of Tn (where I live), is that the Grizzlies can't afford three max players. Most thought Zach would be the odd man out. There is no way they are getting rid of Gasol, which leads me to believe Rudy Gay could be had.

Marc Gasol is not a max contract player. He is a $9-11 million year guy.

Although Memphis could be forced to overpay and put him in the $12-13 million bracket given the free agent market this summer. Still considerably less than a max contract.

you are seriously under valuing the price of centers in the NBA.

[Lucky17]

The word out of Tn (where I live), is that the Grizzlies can't afford three max players. Most thought Zach would be the odd man out. There is no way they are getting rid of Gasol, which leads me to believe Rudy Gay could be had.

Marc Gasol is not a max contract player. He is a $9-11 million year guy.

Although Memphis could be forced to overpay and put him in the $12-13 million bracket given the free agent market this summer. Still considerably less than a max contract.

you are seriously under valuing the price of centers in the NBA.

$10 mil a year for Gasol seems about right to me, based on his production and his age.

He shouldn't command anywhere close to max money. Somewhere between Varejao's (5 yr, $43 mil) and Bogut's (4 yr, $50 mil) contracts.

[Chief]

The word out of Tn (where I live), is that the Grizzlies can't afford three max players. Most thought Zach would be the odd man out. There is no way they are getting rid of Gasol, which leads me to believe Rudy Gay could be had.

Marc Gasol is not a max contract player. He is a $9-11 million year guy.

Although Memphis could be forced to overpay and put him in the $12-13 million bracket given the free agent market this summer. Still considerably less than a max contract.

you are seriously under valuing the price of centers in the NBA.

I agree. Gasol is pretty darn good too. A young pretty darn good center will earn a lot of money. Heck, Samuel Dalembert got 12 million and he's ok at best. IMO, Marc is as good as Pau. And Mr. Laker makes 17 million a year.

On a side note, in hindsight that Gasol trade does not look so bad for Chris Wallace.

[LooseCannon]

Rudy Gay is no where near a max contract player.  There are some people who would say that Gay was a below-average player prior to this season whose mediocrity was disguised by volume scoring.

Only an idiot would want to trade for Gay without receiving some sort of compensation (draft picks, superstar potential young talent) in order to acquire that albatross of a contract.

[Moranis]

The word out of Tn (where I live), is that the Grizzlies can't afford three max players. Most thought Zach would be the odd man out. There is no way they are getting rid of Gasol, which leads me to believe Rudy Gay could be had.

Marc Gasol is not a max contract player. He is a $9-11 million year guy.

Although Memphis could be forced to overpay and put him in the $12-13 million bracket given the free agent market this summer. Still considerably less than a max contract.

you are seriously under valuing the price of centers in the NBA.

$10 mil a year for Gasol seems about right to me, based on his production and his age.

He shouldn't command anywhere close to max money. Somewhere between Varejao's (5 yr, $43 mil) and Bogut's (4 yr, $50 mil) contracts.

Please put the following players in order of value:

Andrea Bargnani
Andris Biedrins
Tyson Chandler
Samuel Dalembert
Marc Gasol
Chris Kaman
Joakim Noah
Emeka Okafor

[dtrader]

The word out of Tn (where I live), is that the Grizzlies can't afford three max players. Most thought Zach would be the odd man out. There is no way they are getting rid of Gasol, which leads me to believe Rudy Gay could be had.

Marc Gasol is not a max contract player. He is a $9-11 million year guy.

Although Memphis could be forced to overpay and put him in the $12-13 million bracket given the free agent market this summer. Still considerably less than a max contract.

you are seriously under valuing the price of centers in the NBA.

$10 mil a year for Gasol seems about right to me, based on his production and his age.

He shouldn't command anywhere close to max money. Somewhere between Varejao's (5 yr, $43 mil) and Bogut's (4 yr, $50 mil) contracts.

Please put the following players in order of value:

Andrea Bargnani
Andris Biedrins
Tyson Chandler
Samuel Dalembert
Marc Gasol
Chris Kaman
Joakim Noah
Emeka Okafor

Gasol tops everyone on that list except Noah (when playing at his pre-injury level).  If we're talking about Noah since the injury...he tops him too.  Gasol is one of the few big men in the league right now, that really play like traditional big men.  Combining that, his experience overseas, and his age, I think he deserves to be paid more than every other player listed (especially since so many of them are injury prone)

[Lucky17]

The word out of Tn (where I live), is that the Grizzlies can't afford three max players. Most thought Zach would be the odd man out. There is no way they are getting rid of Gasol, which leads me to believe Rudy Gay could be had.

Marc Gasol is not a max contract player. He is a $9-11 million year guy.

Although Memphis could be forced to overpay and put him in the $12-13 million bracket given the free agent market this summer. Still considerably less than a max contract.

you are seriously under valuing the price of centers in the NBA.

$10 mil a year for Gasol seems about right to me, based on his production and his age.

He shouldn't command anywhere close to max money. Somewhere between Varejao's (5 yr, $43 mil) and Bogut's (4 yr, $50 mil) contracts.

Please put the following players in order of value:

Andrea Bargnani
Andris Biedrins
Tyson Chandler
Samuel Dalembert
Marc Gasol
Chris Kaman
Joakim Noah
Emeka Okafor

Bargnani is not a center. His own GM admitted as much in a press conference yesterday. So I'm throwing his name out.

I'd pay Gasol more than Biedrins, but that's it. On a per 38-minute basis, every other center on that list averaged more rebounds and blocks than Gasol last season (including Kaman).

He may be a better prospect/player than others on the list, but that doesn't mean Memphis should have to pay a huge contract in 2011 because a couple of dumb GMs did 4 or 5 years ago.

If someone offers him $12 mil a year, I'd hesitate to match.

BTW, what's Gasol's ceiling? Is he much more than a 12 pts, 7 rebs, 1.5 blocks a game guy?

[Rondo2287]

The word out of Tn (where I live), is that the Grizzlies can't afford three max players. Most thought Zach would be the odd man out. There is no way they are getting rid of Gasol, which leads me to believe Rudy Gay could be had.

Marc Gasol is not a max contract player. He is a $9-11 million year guy.

Although Memphis could be forced to overpay and put him in the $12-13 million bracket given the free agent market this summer. Still considerably less than a max contract.

you are seriously under valuing the price of centers in the NBA.

$10 mil a year for Gasol seems about right to me, based on his production and his age.

He shouldn't command anywhere close to max money. Somewhere between Varejao's (5 yr, $43 mil) and Bogut's (4 yr, $50 mil) contracts.

Please put the following players in order of value:

Andrea Bargnani
Andris Biedrins
Tyson Chandler
Samuel Dalembert
Marc Gasol
Chris Kaman
Joakim Noah
Emeka Okafor

Bargnani is not a center. His own GM admitted as much in a press conference yesterday. So I'm throwing his name out.

I'd pay Gasol more than Biedrins, but that's it. On a per 38-minute basis, every other center on that list averaged more rebounds and blocks than Gasol last season (including Kaman).

He may be a better prospect/player than others on the list, but that doesn't mean Memphis should have to pay a huge contract in 2011 because a couple of dumb GMs did 4 or 5 years ago.

If someone offers him $12 mil a year, I'd hesitate to match.

BTW, what's Gasol's ceiling? Is he much more than a 12 pts, 7 rebs, 1.5 blocks a game guy?

I would say that his facial hair has more promise than Pau's but not by much

[Lucky17]

I would say that his facial hair has more promise than Pau's but not by much

Really? On whiskerability, I think Marc crushes Pau.

Where's Hollinger when you really need him?

[ssspence]

I'm not a believer.  That'll be a regret contract sooner or later.

We all know his history of problems, but how on earth do you let a player of his caliber walk? Best post player in the NBA bar none. Very tricky decision for the Grizz, but I can certainly understand why they did it.

[Moranis]

The word out of Tn (where I live), is that the Grizzlies can't afford three max players. Most thought Zach would be the odd man out. There is no way they are getting rid of Gasol, which leads me to believe Rudy Gay could be had.

Marc Gasol is not a max contract player. He is a $9-11 million year guy.

Although Memphis could be forced to overpay and put him in the $12-13 million bracket given the free agent market this summer. Still considerably less than a max contract.

you are seriously under valuing the price of centers in the NBA.

$10 mil a year for Gasol seems about right to me, based on his production and his age.

He shouldn't command anywhere close to max money. Somewhere between Varejao's (5 yr, $43 mil) and Bogut's (4 yr, $50 mil) contracts.

Please put the following players in order of value:

Andrea Bargnani
Andris Biedrins
Tyson Chandler
Samuel Dalembert
Marc Gasol
Chris Kaman
Joakim Noah
Emeka Okafor

Bargnani is not a center. His own GM admitted as much in a press conference yesterday. So I'm throwing his name out.

I'd pay Gasol more than Biedrins, but that's it. On a per 38-minute basis, every other center on that list averaged more rebounds and blocks than Gasol last season (including Kaman).

He may be a better prospect/player than others on the list, but that doesn't mean Memphis should have to pay a huge contract in 2011 because a couple of dumb GMs did 4 or 5 years ago.

If someone offers him $12 mil a year, I'd hesitate to match.

BTW, what's Gasol's ceiling? Is he much more than a 12 pts, 7 rebs, 1.5 blocks a game guy?

His per 36 have been better then that in every single year he has been in the league (his rookie year he only blocked 1.3 shots per 36).  So I'd say yes he is more then that.

[Lucky17]

If someone offers him $12 mil a year, I'd hesitate to match.

BTW, what's Gasol's ceiling? Is he much more than a 12 pts, 7 rebs, 1.5 blocks a game guy?

His per 36 have been better then that in every single year he has been in the league (his rookie year he only blocked 1.3 shots per 36).  So I'd say yes he is more then that.

OK. But how much more? This season, he averaged 32 minutes a game, so his per-36 puts him at 13/8/2. Will he continue to improve, or has his production begun to level off yet?

I think he's a great complement to Randolph. Hard-nosed, physical, does the dirty work. But is he worth $12 mil a year?

All this could be moot anyways, depending on how the new CBA dictates cap space, contracts, etc. There may be few teams willing and able to seriously out/overbid Memphis for Gasol this summer.

[Chief]

If someone offers him $12 mil a year, I'd hesitate to match.

BTW, what's Gasol's ceiling? Is he much more than a 12 pts, 7 rebs, 1.5 blocks a game guy?

His per 36 have been better then that in every single year he has been in the league (his rookie year he only blocked 1.3 shots per 36).  So I'd say yes he is more then that.

OK. But how much more? This season, he averaged 32 minutes a game, so his per-36 puts him at 13/8/2. Will he continue to improve, or has his production begun to level off yet?

I think he's a great complement to Randolph. Hard-nosed, physical, does the dirty work. But is he worth $12 mil a year?

All this could be moot anyways, depending on how the new CBA dictates cap space, contracts, etc. There may be few teams willing and able to seriously out/overbid Memphis for Gasol this summer.

You can't let a good young center leave. Even if you have to over pay. As for sf, they are a dime a dozen.