Zac Randolph gets supposed four year $71 million deal with Grizzlies...darn it!

[Roy H.]

The word out of Tn (where I live), is that the Grizzlies can't afford three max players. Most thought Zach would be the odd man out. There is no way they are getting rid of Gasol, which leads me to believe Rudy Gay could be had. I could see a team (with cap room) possibly landing Mayo and Gay for a good low salary player and multiple draft picks.

I'll take bad decisions for 300 , Alex.

Right, I think the see how this team is doing with out Rudy and will take there chances without him in the future.  Bad move, IMO.

Yeah, I don't get the logic in a team trading a good starter just because the team has had some moderate success without that starter in the lineup.  It's just not a sensible thing to do.

[dtrader]

The word out of Tn (where I live), is that the Grizzlies can't afford three max players. Most thought Zach would be the odd man out. There is no way they are getting rid of Gasol, which leads me to believe Rudy Gay could be had. I could see a team (with cap room) possibly landing Mayo and Gay for a good low salary player and multiple draft picks.

I'll take bad decisions for 300 , Alex.

Right, I think the see how this team is doing with out Rudy and will take there chances without him in the future.  Bad move, IMO.

Yeah, I don't get the logic in a team trading a good starter just because the team has had some moderate success without that starter in the lineup.  It's just not a sensible thing to do.

To get paid max money (especially in a smaller market), you need to be better than a "good starter".  Gay is a good player with occasional flashes of greatness, who has never shown any real interest in playing defense.  Since Bringing in TA (and moving Mayo out of the starting lineup), the team has a much more blue collar/defense minded style, and it's worked great for them.  They also have a lot of young players who seem to benefit from the increased minutes theyve seen since the roster moves.  

Right now, theyre showing how dangerous they can be with NOONE in the spot Rudy gay filled. If they could trade him for a decent player who's more defense minded, and get a few picks that turn into something, they could become a force in the west (especially with the coming decline of the spurs/lakers/Hornets).

[RedsCeltics34]

Good for Zach, he deserves it. & I dont think the Grizzlies will regret this.

[Marcus13]

Wow.  Certainly not the guy I'd want to invest $70 million in

[hpantazo]

The word out of Tn (where I live), is that the Grizzlies can't afford three max players. Most thought Zach would be the odd man out. There is no way they are getting rid of Gasol, which leads me to believe Rudy Gay could be had. I could see a team (with cap room) possibly landing Mayo and Gay for a good low salary player and multiple draft picks.

I'll take bad decisions for 300 , Alex.

Right, I think the see how this team is doing with out Rudy and will take there chances without him in the future.  Bad move, IMO.

Yeah, I don't get the logic in a team trading a good starter just because the team has had some moderate success without that starter in the lineup.  It's just not a sensible thing to do.

To get paid max money (especially in a smaller market), you need to be better than a "good starter".  Gay is a good player with occasional flashes of greatness, who has never shown any real interest in playing defense.  Since Bringing in TA (and moving Mayo out of the starting lineup), the team has a much more blue collar/defense minded style, and it's worked great for them.  They also have a lot of young players who seem to benefit from the increased minutes theyve seen since the roster moves.  

Right now, theyre showing how dangerous they can be with NOONE in the spot Rudy gay filled. If they could trade him for a decent player who's more defense minded, and get a few picks that turn into something, they could become a force in the west (especially with the coming decline of the spurs/lakers/Hornets).

Gay for Glen Davis then?

[KCattheStripe]

The word out of Tn (where I live), is that the Grizzlies can't afford three max players. Most thought Zach would be the odd man out. There is no way they are getting rid of Gasol, which leads me to believe Rudy Gay could be had. I could see a team (with cap room) possibly landing Mayo and Gay for a good low salary player and multiple draft picks.

I'll take bad decisions for 300 , Alex.

Right, I think the see how this team is doing with out Rudy and will take there chances without him in the future.  Bad move, IMO.

Yeah, I don't get the logic in a team trading a good starter just because the team has had some moderate success without that starter in the lineup.  It's just not a sensible thing to do.

To get paid max money (especially in a smaller market), you need to be better than a "good starter".  Gay is a good player with occasional flashes of greatness, who has never shown any real interest in playing defense.  Since Bringing in TA (and moving Mayo out of the starting lineup), the team has a much more blue collar/defense minded style, and it's worked great for them.  They also have a lot of young players who seem to benefit from the increased minutes theyve seen since the roster moves.  

Right now, theyre showing how dangerous they can be with NOONE in the spot Rudy gay filled. If they could trade him for a decent player who's more defense minded, and get a few picks that turn into something, they could become a force in the west (especially with the coming decline of the spurs/lakers/Hornets).

The Grizz were 30-24 with Rudy in the line up, the reason the Grizz started playing better was the insertion of Tony along side rudy instead of Sam Young. Rudy gets a bad rap for his defense but it's greatly improved the past two years and he and TA were playing monstrously. The slow start of the Grizz  had more to do with Hollins being slow to put OJ on the bench and when he did he put young in as the starter.

[dtrader]

The word out of Tn (where I live), is that the Grizzlies can't afford three max players. Most thought Zach would be the odd man out. There is no way they are getting rid of Gasol, which leads me to believe Rudy Gay could be had. I could see a team (with cap room) possibly landing Mayo and Gay for a good low salary player and multiple draft picks.

I'll take bad decisions for 300 , Alex.

Right, I think the see how this team is doing with out Rudy and will take there chances without him in the future.  Bad move, IMO.

Yeah, I don't get the logic in a team trading a good starter just because the team has had some moderate success without that starter in the lineup.  It's just not a sensible thing to do.

To get paid max money (especially in a smaller market), you need to be better than a "good starter".  Gay is a good player with occasional flashes of greatness, who has never shown any real interest in playing defense.  Since Bringing in TA (and moving Mayo out of the starting lineup), the team has a much more blue collar/defense minded style, and it's worked great for them.  They also have a lot of young players who seem to benefit from the increased minutes theyve seen since the roster moves.  

Right now, theyre showing how dangerous they can be with NOONE in the spot Rudy gay filled. If they could trade him for a decent player who's more defense minded, and get a few picks that turn into something, they could become a force in the west (especially with the coming decline of the spurs/lakers/Hornets).

Gay for Glen Davis then?

No, because they dont need a PF after signing zbo.  Gay for Green, 2 first round picks, and max cash considerations...maybe.  I think that deal could be good for both sides.  

Memphis gets an athletic wing thats used to being a 3rd option and has yet to reach his full potential (along with picks), and we get a proven scorer capable at taking over games, that provides a size advantage versus most teams at the 3 spot (sound like anyone we know lol).  It also gives us youth, and will sell some seats post big 3.

I'll admit that Gay has made strides in his defense. The size he put on last off season certainly helped.  I just feel as though he's become increasingly replaceable with the addition of TA/Battier, and the development of their younsters (young/arthur).  For a small market team, their max players should be irreplaceable....ie durant, CP3,

[EJPLAYA]

Why would you trade Green for Gay when they basically are similar players?! Then give up 2 first round picks and cash to boot?! Keep Green and your picks and your money. Use those picks on some replacements for Ray and KG when they leave and a Center for that matter. Sign Green at a reasonable contract and you've got the same thing. Gay isn't special.

[Roy H.]

Why would you trade Green for Gay when they basically are similar players?! Then give up 2 first round picks and cash to boot?! Keep Green and your picks and your money. Use those picks on some replacements for Ray and KG when they leave and a Center for that matter. Sign Green at a reasonable contract and you've got the same thing. Gay isn't special.

They're similar players, but Gay is better pretty much across the board.  I don't know if the gap is worth two #1s, but I do think that Gay is a better player, and he will be better in the future, as well.

[Rondo2287]

Why would you trade Green for Gay when they basically are similar players?! Then give up 2 first round picks and cash to boot?! Keep Green and your picks and your money. Use those picks on some replacements for Ray and KG when they leave and a Center for that matter. Sign Green at a reasonable contract and you've got the same thing. Gay isn't special.

They're similar players, but Gay is better pretty much across the board.  I don't know if the gap is worth two #1s, but I do think that Gay is a better player, and he will be better in the future, as well.

Kinda curious where we would be at if the Ray and Rondo for Conley and Gay trade went down, Assuming therfore gay didnt go down with an injury since we are fantasy land

[pearljammer10]

I have always loved ZBo... he is a truly great talent and even though he has had some past troubles with being a bonehead he seems to have really turned it around and has a good thing going down in Memphis. The Grizzlies have a great young team and a pretty bright future... I couldnt believe how good they were playing against the Spurs yesterday and were missing their, argueably, best play in Gay.

Conley, Allen, Gay, ZBo, Gasol, Mayo, Battier, and Arthur provide a great young 8 man rotation that can provide great competition for the next few years.

[dtrader]

Why would you trade Green for Gay when they basically are similar players?! Then give up 2 first round picks and cash to boot?! Keep Green and your picks and your money. Use those picks on some replacements for Ray and KG when they leave and a Center for that matter. Sign Green at a reasonable contract and you've got the same thing. Gay isn't special.

They're similar players, but Gay is better pretty much across the board.  I don't know if the gap is worth two #1s, but I do think that Gay is a better player, and he will be better in the future, as well.

My feeling is that 1. - at their respective bests, Gay is still better. And 2.- with Gay, there are FAR fewer instances where he seems to dissappear, due to the aggressive nature of his game.  Two first rounders may be steep compensation, but picks are never a guarantee, and having a young, game changing, physically imposing wing to replace the scoring of an aging big3 could be a perfect bridge (especially if Gay is able to develop on D).  

[Moranis]

Why would you trade Green for Gay when they basically are similar players?! Then give up 2 first round picks and cash to boot?! Keep Green and your picks and your money. Use those picks on some replacements for Ray and KG when they leave and a Center for that matter. Sign Green at a reasonable contract and you've got the same thing. Gay isn't special.

They're similar players, but Gay is better pretty much across the board.  I don't know if the gap is worth two #1s, but I do think that Gay is a better player, and he will be better in the future, as well.

My feeling is that 1. - at their respective bests, Gay is still better. And 2.- with Gay, there are FAR fewer instances where he seems to dissappear, due to the aggressive nature of his game.  Two first rounders may be steep compensation, but picks are never a guarantee, and having a young, game changing, physically imposing wing to replace the scoring of an aging big3 could be a perfect bridge (especially if Gay is able to develop on D).  

first round picks in the high 20's don't have that much value.

[manl_lui]

idk how he will help us on boards

idk why but we have KG, JO, and Shaq this year and Sheed last year who were all supposedly good rebounders...

is it because they are all aging so they can't rebound anymore?? or is it our system prevents us from getting as much boards? I can't help but to think sometimes our offensive plays prevents many offensive rebounds, judging all the screens we set for Ray Ray.

So if Zach comes here and play in our systems, will his rpg go down?

im still learning about basketball so if someone can clear this up that'll be awesome

[Lucky17]

The word out of Tn (where I live), is that the Grizzlies can't afford three max players. Most thought Zach would be the odd man out. There is no way they are getting rid of Gasol, which leads me to believe Rudy Gay could be had. I could see a team (with cap room) possibly landing Mayo and Gay for a good low salary player and multiple draft picks.

The Cavs sure could use some talent. They have a TPE large enough to absorb Gay's contract.

Baron, Rudy, Hickson, and Varejao, plus Jamison's huge expiring contract next year. That's a decent base to build on. I know Gilbert wants a winner in Cleveland again, and is prepared to spend money to do it.