Perk vs Green game to game stats

[blackberry33]

Kendrick Perkins stats 28 minutes 4 points 5 rbs 2 blocks -2
Jeff Green stats 17 minutes 4 points O rbs 1 blk +1

I want to keep this up for as long as these two guys continue to advance to the finals.


Perk played Great D
Green hit that huge J putting Boston up 66-64

[blackberry33]

This could also be done between JO and Perk who both play the same position. But wanted to do it with the guys who were the big pieces of the trade......

And yes JO wins yesterdays match up hands down over Perk

[Roy H.]

This could also be done between JO and Perk who both play the same position. But wanted to do it with the guys who were the big pieces of the trade......

And yes JO wins yesterdays match up hands down over Perk

Of course, both of them easily could have been playing on the same team.

I agree that if you're going to compare players, you have to look at the trade principals.  However, I'm not sure that individual statistics are going to give you a clear cut answer.

I mean, here's what we're going to see: 

*  Green is going to score more points, probably significantly more

* Perk is going to grab more rebounds and block more shots, probably significantly more

* Perk will shoot a higher percentage

* Assists will be about equal, with neither player excelling in that category

In essence, it's going to be a replica of what the players have done statistically to date both this year and in their careers.  If, after two months, we haven't resolved the question of who is better, I doubt anybody will let playoff stats change their mind.

[GreenFaith1819]

Great idea here, but it would probably be best served to go with JO vs Perk.

IMO, to go Jeff vs Perk is challenging because they play two different positions and two different roles.

[Fafnir]

Yeah I have to agree with Roy, I don't think box score stats are going to tell you much at this point.

Especially when one is our back up wing/small ball PF and the other is a starting C.

[blackberry33]

Great idea here, but it would probably be best served to go with JO vs Perk.

IMO, to go Jeff vs Perk is challenging because they play two different positions and two different roles.

Maybe it should be JO vs Perk. What does everyone think?

[OsirusCeltics]

If Perkins was there last night, Nene wouldn't have dominated and gotten all of those dunks for the Nuggets!

Oh wait...he was lol

[blackberry33]

If Perkins was there last night, Nene wouldn't have dominated and gotten all of those dunks for the Nuggets!

Oh wait...he was lol

He did get lots of dunks thats for sure

[GreenFaith1819]

If Perkins was there last night, Nene wouldn't have dominated and gotten all of those dunks for the Nuggets!

Oh wait...he was lol

He did get lots of dunks thats for sure

Yeah - Nene is one of those centers that give Perk trouble. He is in a very small number, too.

Nene, Chris Kaman, and Bogut have given Perk a lot of trouble over the years.

Not many others, though.

[Onslaught]

I'm not sure how people can't see that Perk did more then just stats. He did lot's of little things some bad but most good that help and worked well for this team.

I wasn't a fan of the trade. I'm still not sold on it. We just beat the Knicks by the skin of our teeth and I for one don't think that's something to be proud of. I can't say for sure if things would've worked out better last night if we still had Perk.

I for one would like all the Perk talk to just go away. I like the guy, I like how he's more of an old school kind of player that could intimidate people. I think the NBA needs more kids like him who play hard, don't get into trouble and play team ball. I wish him nothing but the best and if Boston can't win it all this year then I want OKC to do it.

[ballin]

I'm not sure how people can't see that Perk did more then just stats. He did lot's of little things some bad but most good that help and worked well for this team.

I wasn't a fan of the trade. I'm still not sold on it. We just beat the Knicks by the skin of our teeth and I for one don't think that's something to be proud of. I can't say for sure if things would've worked out better last night if we still had Perk.

I for one would like all the Perk talk to just go away. I like the guy, I like how he's more of an old school kind of player that could intimidate people. I think the NBA needs more kids like him who play hard, don't get into trouble and play team ball. I wish him nothing but the best and if Boston can't win it all this year then I want OKC to do it.

Agreed, tp.

As for the little things he does that don't show up in the box score, I'll start by mentioning he is one of the best pick-setters in the entire league, and yes that makes a hell of a difference.

But honestly the biggest difference that Perk would have made would have been addition by subtraction... if he were here we wouldn't have had to match Big Baby up against Stoudemire, who got EATEN ALIVE. So if you want to compare stats, how about you start factoring in every ridiculously easy bucket that Davis gives up to Amare?

edit: somebody is definitely gonna come in and propound upon this horrible logical fallacy "But Amare lit up KG too!". Which he did, but that's about the only similarity between KG and BBD guarding Amare. In reality, Amare had to work about 10x harder when KG was on him and he just made some amazing shots (360 layup? that dunk over him and JO? hand-in-face jumpers?) whereas Glen was just giving up layups.

Point is, anybody might've gotten torched by Amare last night since he was on fire, but as the series goes on I might decide to chip in to this thread by counting the number of layups Baby allows Amare to take.

[Fafnir]

I'm not sure how people can't see that Perk did more then just stats. He did lot's of little things some bad but most good that help and worked well for this team.

I wasn't a fan of the trade. I'm still not sold on it. We just beat the Knicks by the skin of our teeth and I for one don't think that's something to be proud of. I can't say for sure if things would've worked out better last night if we still had Perk.

I for one would like all the Perk talk to just go away. I like the guy, I like how he's more of an old school kind of player that could intimidate people. I think the NBA needs more kids like him who play hard, don't get into trouble and play team ball. I wish him nothing but the best and if Boston can't win it all this year then I want OKC to do it.

Agreed, tp.

As for the little things he does that don't show up in the box score, I'll start by mentioning he is one of the best pick-setters in the entire league, and yes that makes a hell of a difference.

But honestly the biggest difference that Perk would have made would have been addition by subtraction... if he were here we wouldn't have had to match Big Baby up against Stoudemire, who got EATEN ALIVE. So if you want to compare stats, how about you start factoring in every ridiculously easy bucket that Davis gives up to Amare?

edit: somebody is definitely gonna come in and propound upon this horrible logical fallacy "But Amare lit up KG too!". Which he did, but that's about the only similarity between KG and BBD guarding Amare. In reality, Amare had to work about 10x harder when KG was on him and he just made some amazing shots (360 layup? that dunk over him and JO? hand-in-face jumpers?) whereas Glen was just giving up layups.

Point is, anybody might've gotten torched by Amare last night since he was on fire, but as the series goes on I might decide to chip in to this thread by counting the number of layups Baby allows Amare to take.

I don't think the C's would have Perkins guard Amar'e even if he was here. They'd rather have Perkisn available to help after Amar'e blows by his primary defender.

[ram]

I watched the first half and Perk did not play well.

What was troubling to me was that I was rooting for him to do poorly. I want him to do well but I can't pull for him. Is that because of all the trade bashing I read? Not sure.

I loved Perk. I might be his biggest fan.

I was devastated by the Perk trade. Back in 1988-89, I was devastated by the Ainge trade (for Klein and Pinkney) and in 1977 the Silas trade (or not resigned, whichever it was). I watched Silas and Ainge as much as I could the rest of their careers and rooted for them as though they were Celtics. Gerald Henderson, too. Non-champion Celtics I have no problem seeing in other uniforms but the champions, they are forever Celtics to me.

[Onslaught]

The only time I get mad here is when some people make it sound as if Perk stinks it up on the floor. Perk is a good player. He's not a great player but he's the kind of guy you need to have on a winning team. You can't make a team out of All Stars and it work out.

I'm done with the trade talk. I hope that Green and the new guys work things out here and help us win. I've got nothing against any of them.

I also hope that Perk finds a good home in OKC. He's on a team with some great players and he should fit in well in time. I kind of like that team so it's easy for me to pull for him. And hey, they could be the ones to kill LA.

I'd like to fly into Boston the first time he's back there playing so I could cheer for him during the intros.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Kendrick Perkins stats 28 minutes 4 points 5 rbs 2 blocks -2
Jeff Green stats 17 minutes 4 points O rbs 1 blk +1

I want to keep this up for as long as these two guys continue to advance to the finals.


Perk played Great D
Green hit that huge J putting Boston up 66-64

Perk's defense was suspect against Nene. Green was huge defensively against Carmelo, let's not ignore that.