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Pats poised to dominate Draft
« on: April 12, 2011, 05:23:33 AM »

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 Amazing the kind of players we can Draft this year with all these picks.

 D.E. If Watt, and Cameron Jordan are both gone by 17 than we trade back to select Pouncey, in the Late first, to early second.

 We Trade back with the 28th pick to Select Muhammed Wilkerson, 6'4" 315 pound specimen, that would fit in Perfect on the Pats D Line, Him with a healthy Warren and Wilfolk would look fantastic. 70 tackles 13 tackles for loss and 9.5 sacks last year.

 Then we take Akeem Ayers 6'3 255 OLB I hope the Pats like him as much as I do. 73 Tackles 12.5 TFL 5 sacks 4 Picks 2 Forced fumbles. An All around Linebacker.

 Then are next picks are at 60 and 74 but we parley 74 into another second rounder and we take Titus Young in the fifties who IS Deon Branch all over again, and he's the 8th rated WR on Walterfootball behind AJ Green, Julio Jones, Baldwin, T SMith, Hankerson, Jerrigan, and Randall Cobb, and that's fine by me because I think he can do it all.

 And with pick 60 we take Demarco Murray who had a fantastic 4 year career and caught 70 balls in his final season, and rushed for another 1200 Yards. His Yards Per Carry did dip to 4.4 in his final season but that's due to losing Bradford.

 He can Also return Kicks adding to his Value. He would have been a first rounder without Injuries. And with the other picks, we fill out the depth on the Lines and Maybe another corner.

 If we came out of this draft with

 Muhammed DT

 Pouncey G/C

 A Ayers OLB

 Titus Young WR Speed Demon
 
 Demarco Murray RB Game changer 4.4 speed, great hands

 We would crush the NFL.

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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2011, 07:56:53 AM »

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Great review. Too bad I dont follow enough college (or draft specials) to really know the guys, but I appreciate you taking the time to break it down. I'll look 'em up.

I just know with all our picks this year, we're bound to make out with a few decent prospects.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised to see them trade some picks for some proven talent.

Oh, and I want Moss back in our uniform. He's still a beast.

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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2011, 08:41:00 AM »

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I can never keep up with all the picks and trades that the Pats do on draft day, but that doesn't stop me from watching

I don't even follow college football, but draft day is always fascinating - at least on day one (or night one now?)

as for the later rounds, I typically just wait till the draft is done and see how many guys the Pats get at each position
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2011, 09:02:06 AM »

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I want Ingram

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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2011, 09:11:19 AM »

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I want Ingram

Not really interested in the high pick it will take to get him.  I am a huge proponent of getting as much of a sure thing as you can with your top picks which usually means linemen. 

My thinking is, if you control the line of scrimmage you control the game. 
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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2011, 09:54:37 AM »

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TP to the OP for the analysis.

I agree with your general thoughts on the first couple rounds of the draft.  Namely, that if one of the "close to elite" DEs doesn't fall to them (and I agree that Jordan and Watt are the two with the potential to fall to the Pats -- ie: they are not "5"s, but maybe "4.5"s) that they consider addressing the O-line first, and then using the 28 or 33 to address the DE position -- this is an area that is supposed to be deep so they could still get a "4" at this point. 

Based on my limited understanding about the players in the draft, if the Pats come out of it with the players you list below, I'd be happy.  But that would be the type of "A" on paper type draft.  BB will instead select unheralded people, some of whom will pan out, some of whom won't... ;)

Other thoughts,
-I like the idea of D. Murray, but also S. Vereen out of Cal.
-I like the idea of BB trading back a bit in the first in order to get some quality 2nd and 3rd round picks.  Seems to be plenty of talent there.
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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2011, 09:55:14 AM »

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Who knows who the Patriots will draft but I do not think that we will keep those picks and I'm sorry but when it comes to the draft I don't have a lot of faith in Belichick anymore.

As much as I'd think Titus can make an impact on this team I do not think that WR is a position of need at all. Drafting a WR might stunt any growth of Brandon Tate and Taylor Price. Patriots and Bill are really high on those two and we have enough WR's right now, unless we keep Titus in practice squad or inactive.

What we need is defense and if we have to trade up to get a guy like a Cameron Jordan or Watt then we should. Also would be nice to pick up a RB with the ages/eventual departures of Faulk, Morris and Fred. We also need OL. In the end you must draft the best player on the board, which is key in later rounds but in the early rounds most if not all are talented... you need to pick a player that will make the biggest impact on a position of need.
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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2011, 09:58:17 AM »

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Who knows who the Patriots will draft but I do not think that we will keep those picks and I'm sorry but when it comes to the draft I don't have a lot of faith in Belichick anymore.

As much as I'd think Titus can make an impact on this team I do not think that WR is a position of need at all. Drafting a WR might stunt any growth of Brandon Tate and Taylor Price. Patriots and Bill are really high on those two and we have enough WR's right now, unless we keep Titus in practice squad or inactive.

What we need is defense and if we have to trade up to get a guy like a Cameron Jordan or Watt then we should. Also would be nice to pick up a RB with the ages/eventual departures of Faulk, Morris and Fred. We also need OL. In the end you must draft the best player on the board, which is key in later rounds but in the early rounds most if not all are talented... you need to pick a player that will make the biggest impact on a position of need.

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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2011, 10:28:37 AM »

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Who knows who the Patriots will draft but I do not think that we will keep those picks and I'm sorry but when it comes to the draft I don't have a lot of faith in Belichick anymore.

As much as I'd think Titus can make an impact on this team I do not think that WR is a position of need at all. Drafting a WR might stunt any growth of Brandon Tate and Taylor Price. Patriots and Bill are really high on those two and we have enough WR's right now, unless we keep Titus in practice squad or inactive.

What we need is defense and if we have to trade up to get a guy like a Cameron Jordan or Watt then we should. Also would be nice to pick up a RB with the ages/eventual departures of Faulk, Morris and Fred. We also need OL. In the end you must draft the best player on the board, which is key in later rounds but in the early rounds most if not all are talented... you need to pick a player that will make the biggest impact on a position of need.

Gronkowski, Hernandez, McCourty, and Spikes all have faith in the way that BB drafts

Yeah, last draft he did pretty well and I am happy with who we got. If McCourty keeps getting better then he was a sure steal but he has had plenty of other misses in the past. People always point out that that we traded away from Clay, Oher and even to a lesser degree Jennings but so did other teams so I don't put much into that.

I'll be watching the draft and I am looking forward to it with all the picks we have but I will also have my advil ready for any headaches that might occur. I hope I'm wrong with not trusting Bill and that last years draft was the beginning of him getting better with drafts.
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Sure, he's had some misses but Belichick is still one of the best in the business when it comes to draft whether its personnel or stockpiling assets.  Wouldn't be shocked to see that Pats come out of this draft with an additional first or second rounder in the 2012 draft.  That's just the way he works.  It creates flexability. 

I've been pounding it into the ground on here for months but I want to see them get younger on the OL and address the DL. A pass rushing OLB too.  If they're addressing RB or WR, I prefer they do it in the mid-rounds.   


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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2011, 10:57:28 AM »

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Who knows who the Patriots will draft but I do not think that we will keep those picks and I'm sorry but when it comes to the draft I don't have a lot of faith in Belichick anymore.

Really?  After the last two years, I have renewed faith in BB.
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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2011, 11:30:03 AM »

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Who knows who the Patriots will draft but I do not think that we will keep those picks and I'm sorry but when it comes to the draft I don't have a lot of faith in Belichick anymore.

Really?  After the last two years, I have renewed faith in BB.

I'm just holding from altering my judgment until we see what he does with this draft and having so many picks. Plus this is the year we get to see what he'll turn the Seymour trade into.

While my trust in Bill is shaky I still would not want any other coach. I never did go with the whole "In Bill We Trust" stuff... I was always "In Brady We Trust".

Also while turning a couple picks into a pick next season is a good thing, if you keep doing it every year aren't you just essentially putting off that pick? Much like putting things off till tomorrow. Still a good move to do it sometimes. Agreed Donoghus if we were going to pick a RB or WR I'd rather it be in later rounds cause there are more important positions.
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Also while turning a couple picks into a pick next season is a good thing, if you keep doing it every year aren't you just essentially putting off that pick? Much like putting things off till tomorrow. Still a good move to do it sometimes. Agreed Donoghus if we were going to pick a RB or WR I'd rather it be in later rounds cause there are more important positions.

I think one reason we'll see BB trade at least one pick into next year is that the Pats are already very young at a number of positions.  Using all the picks will make the Pats even younger.  Also, by trading the pick into the future, the Pats give themselves the option of value of using the pick in a trade.  This was one reason they were able to get Wes Welker from Miami in '07.
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In terms of defensive line, we have Ty Warren coming back from injury plus Marcus Stroud added into the depth so no need "reach" at that position.  With 4 picks in the first two rounds, I would like to see us come away with at least 1 pick at OL, DL, and RB (not necessarily in that order).

I think we need some fresh legs in the backfield, depth at OL never hurts, and DL is a position where it is always good to try and get lucky.  After those 4 picks, I won't have heard of any of the players anyway so whatever.

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I don't really follow football because of my basketball obsession but I know Jordan Todman may be a potential draft pick of the Patriots (he worked out for them) and he went to my high school so I knew him personally.

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