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Let's get Javale McGee
« on: April 07, 2011, 10:33:42 PM »

Offline vjcsmoke

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This team needs a real center.  McGee and Blatche's games don't complement each other.  I really think we need to make a play for McGee.  He is the defensive presence this team is missing in the middle.  Kristich and two over the hill O'Neals isn't gonna cut it.  We can offer BBD and two 1st round picks if necessary.  Get a real shotblocker on the C's at any cost!

And the good news for the Celtics?  McGee is signed through 2012/2013 for cheap.  They won't have to pony up the big contract to him for another few years down the road.

Re: Let's get Javale McGee
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2011, 10:36:31 PM »

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Re: Let's get Javale McGee
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2011, 10:38:53 PM »

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Get him a fake I.D. who can he pass of easier as: Troy Murhpy, Sasha Pavlovic, Carlos Arroyo, or Avery Bradley?
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Re: Let's get Javale McGee
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2011, 10:41:15 PM »

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Javale Mcgee is gonna be on the Wizards for a while
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Re: Let's get Javale McGee
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2011, 10:42:51 PM »

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Sign and trade Jeff Green for McGee?  Green would be a great compliment to Wall and Young, and has the Georgetown connection.  Probably not enough value for a young center with McGee's upside, but it is probably the starting point of a conversation.

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« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2011, 10:56:08 PM »

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Sign and trade Jeff Green for McGee?  Green would be a great compliment to Wall and Young, and has the Georgetown connection.  Probably not enough value for a young center with McGee's upside, but it is probably the starting point of a conversation.

There's no package we could put together for Javale.  The Wizards would be unconscionably stupid to trade him for anything we have.
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Re: Let's get Javale McGee
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2011, 11:00:38 PM »

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Sign and trade Jeff Green for McGee?  Green would be a great compliment to Wall and Young, and has the Georgetown connection.  Probably not enough value for a young center with McGee's upside, but it is probably the starting point of a conversation.

There's no package we could put together for Javale.  The Wizards would be unconscionably stupid to trade him for anything we have.

Eh, I am not as high on McGee as most people.  I am not convinced he isn't just another Sammy Dalembert.  Gets on the highlights, blocks a bunch of shots, but is ultimately more flash than substance. 

I would certainly still take him with the hope that I am wrong, but I am not sure he is nearly as valuable as some people think.

Re: Let's get Javale McGee
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2011, 11:07:18 PM »

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Sign and trade Jeff Green for McGee?  Green would be a great compliment to Wall and Young, and has the Georgetown connection.  Probably not enough value for a young center with McGee's upside, but it is probably the starting point of a conversation.

There's no package we could put together for Javale.  The Wizards would be unconscionably stupid to trade him for anything we have.

Eh, I am not as high on McGee as most people.  I am not convinced he isn't just another Sammy Dalembert.  Gets on the highlights, blocks a bunch of shots, but is ultimately more flash than substance. 

I would certainly still take him with the hope that I am wrong, but I am not sure he is nearly as valuable as some people think.

Did you watch the game where he recorded a triple double... with blocks, rebounds, and points?  I think McGee would really help us.  Anybody going in the lane will be thinking of the blocked shot, and even when he doesn't block the shot that will alter/change other shots as well.

I think Washington has their big guy already in Blatche. And they actually take away from each other.  So that's why I think McGee is expendable for them.  McGee should be obtainable with the right package.  Losing Perk hurt us a lot.  McGee has also been pretty healthy for a big man - 75/60/75 games played to date.

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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2011, 11:42:37 PM »

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I hope Javale McGee is on Danny's radar, because I'll put it like this: I think we have a much stronger chance of landing McGee via trade then we do of getting D12 in 2012.
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Re: Let's get Javale McGee
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2011, 11:48:30 PM »

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Boston has been virtually the top ranked team for "opponents points in the paint".

We've done this without Javae McGee all year and without Perk for like 95% of the season.

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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2011, 11:50:35 PM »

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Washington is the 7th worst ranked team for giving up "opponents points in the paint".

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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2011, 12:08:05 AM »

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Sign and trade Jeff Green for McGee?  Green would be a great compliment to Wall and Young, and has the Georgetown connection.  Probably not enough value for a young center with McGee's upside, but it is probably the starting point of a conversation.

There's no package we could put together for Javale.  The Wizards would be unconscionably stupid to trade him for anything we have.

Eh, I am not as high on McGee as most people.  I am not convinced he isn't just another Sammy Dalembert.  Gets on the highlights, blocks a bunch of shots, but is ultimately more flash than substance. 

I would certainly still take him with the hope that I am wrong, but I am not sure he is nearly as valuable as some people think.

Did you watch the game where he recorded a triple double... with blocks, rebounds, and points?  I think McGee would really help us.  Anybody going in the lane will be thinking of the blocked shot, and even when he doesn't block the shot that will alter/change other shots as well.

I think Washington has their big guy already in Blatche. And they actually take away from each other.  So that's why I think McGee is expendable for them.  McGee should be obtainable with the right package.  Losing Perk hurt us a lot.  McGee has also been pretty healthy for a big man - 75/60/75 games played to date.

I did not see it, but it wouldn't have changed my opinion of him.  Like I said, Dalembert blocked a lot of shots, and put up some tremendous lines as well...that never meant he was a very good basketball player though, just a human pogo stick.

But, if he is as good as you say, then it doesnt matter anyways, because Washington won't give him up.  They certainly aren't going to choose Blatche over him, who they are luke warm on at best, with his questionable work ethic, and very inconsistent play.

Re: Let's get Javale McGee
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2011, 12:18:41 AM »

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But we're not talking about getting Dalembert.  We're talking about McGee.  Dalembert has been in the league 9 years.  He's pretty much topped out his ability.  McGee is only in his 3rd year and shows a ton of athleticism and promise.  He looks like a young Marcus Camby.

As for Blatche, you'd be surprised if you had been watching him lately, he's put up 4 straight 20/10 games including a 36 pt 19 rebound effort among those 4 performances.  The noticeable trend to me though is that the two don't seem to coexist well.  The Wizards may have to trade McGee just because A) He's redundant with Blatche there and B) Blatche's larger salary is a lot harder to trade.


And I'd like to make one more observation.  I think the Jeff Green trade was a mistake.  Not because we were giving up Perkins, apparently we had to move him, but what we got back in return.  Jeff Green is just not a very good defensive player.


In contrast compare what Portland gave in the Gerald Wallace trade - Joel Pryzbilla (your proverbial backup center), Dante Cunninham (who?) and a 1st round pick.


Wallace is a tough rebounder, defender, can score, etc.  And the price they gave up, is is arguably less than what Boston gave up in the Perkins trade since Perkins is > Pryzbilla by a good margin.  And the loss of Perkins coupled with the fact that Green isn't really a tough defender exacerbates our situation of having over the hill centers in the two O'neals and a tepid defender in Kristic.  Getting Wallace instead would have made up for losing Perkins somewhat.  He is a tough 3/4 defender. 

But anyways if you lose defense somewhere, you need to get it somewhere else.  Neither Murphy nor Kristic are good defenders by any stretch.  Our middle looked soft and exploited vs the Bulls.  Quote me the numbers, but the eyes don't lie.  How are we going to match up with the likes of Howard, Noah, Bynum, Gasol, or even Boozer in the middle during the playoffs? 

The minute KG takes a breather, Boozer starts to dominate our soft middle, by the time he's back game is already out of hand.  Rose's penetration had a lot to do with the Bull's success for sure, but they had far too many easy scores whereas Thibodeux' defense forced the Celtics into tough jumpers in the second half and slowly throttled us to death.  This is the kind of defense the C's used to play.  Let's get a big man in the middle who can give KG some serious defensive help.
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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2011, 12:40:10 AM »

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Interesting stat: McGee has had more fouls than points in 6 games this season, including fouling out in 9 minutes in his last game.

He's an intriguing prospect, but there's a lot of work to be done with his game. He is not an immediate defensive presence, but could be. His attitude also needs some adjusting, I think, although being stuck on a Wizards team that desperately needs a culture shift is probably starting to wear on him.
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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2011, 08:28:10 PM »

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Sign and trade Jeff Green for McGee?  Green would be a great compliment to Wall and Young, and has the Georgetown connection.  Probably not enough value for a young center with McGee's upside, but it is probably the starting point of a conversation.

There's no package we could put together for Javale.  The Wizards would be unconscionably stupid to trade him for anything we have.

Eh, I am not as high on McGee as most people.  I am not convinced he isn't just another Sammy Dalembert.  Gets on the highlights, blocks a bunch of shots, but is ultimately more flash than substance. 

I would certainly still take him with the hope that I am wrong, but I am not sure he is nearly as valuable as some people think.

Doesn't change my point . . . the Wizards aren't going to trade him for anything we have.
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