Why it was silly to panic

[barefacedmonk]

It's funny that Atlanta is not an elite team (it's true), but I always consider them sort of on the cusp of eliteness. They played very well last year, remember when they swept us?

They are playing worse this season....imo, they've declined steadily since that 2008 playoffs series against us...and on top of that, they gave Joe Johnson that ridiculous contract.

[Mike-Dub]

Agreed,but it still is just one win.

Of course, but like I said it's not so much the win in itself but what the game showed : it could have been a loss for all I care, I would have come out of this game feeling really good (OK, not so good of course since it would be a loss) simply because this game showed what we can expect in the playoffs.

At first I agreed about everything with your post, but was a little skeptical because it was one game.  Here though you are spot on and I agree with you post completely now. 

[Bahku]

I haven't been in a panic, personally.

[angryguy77]

The Celtics won this game because Rondo, Garnett and Davis went 19-25 their shots out of 10ft. That's an efficiency above 75% in long 2s.

If it wasn't for that, it would have been another lackluster performance, very similar to the past ones. Similar in the boards, similar inability to get high percentage shots, similar shot-selection, similar defense. Even a heavily perimeter oriented team like this season Spurs beat them in points in the paint.

Anyone who expects similar performances in the playoffs is going to be sorely disappointed because there's no way such efficiency in long 2s is sustainable.

OP is seeing things that didn't happen and only wrote this post because of the final score. Had they been normal in those long jumpers and lost another game this thread wouldn't exist.
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[Cinzilla]

The Celtics won this game because Rondo, Garnett and Davis went 19-25 their shots out of 10ft. That's an efficiency above 75% in long 2s.

If it wasn't for that, it would have been another lackluster performance, very similar to the past ones. Similar in the boards, similar inability to get high percentage shots, similar shot-selection, similar defense. Even a heavily perimeter oriented team like this season Spurs beat them in points in the paint.

Anyone who expects similar performances in the playoffs is going to be sorely disappointed because there's no way such efficiency in long 2s is sustainable.

OP is seeing things that didn't happen and only wrote this post because of the final score. Had they been normal in those long jumpers and lost another game this thread wouldn't exist.

You're assuming the efficiency on long 2's is unsustainable but the Celtics have proved all season long that when they're healthy and well rested they do have the best shooting percentage in the league. It's not a fluke or a one game thing, it's their trademark and it's due to proper rest and focus, two things which are a big part of the playoffs.

Well, maybe I'm assuming that efficiency is unsustainable because it's never been achieved in the history of league or the playoffs. Do you think it's a good enough reason? What happened today is the definition of fluke. This kind of efficiency in those shots happens a few games per season. You must have no idea about the numbers if you believe this is sustainable.

The Celtics shoot about 41% in their 2pt shots out of 10ft. Rondo makes around 40% of that type (and that's because doesn't shoot contested ones), not 2 out of 3. Garnett hits them at a 44% clip, not 80%.

You are 100% wrong: if they are going to win, it's going to be in a completely different way. By doing what they were doing earlier in the season, dominating their glass, getting high-percentage shots near the rim, getting good looks from beyond the line and defending the paint and the transition. Not by relying on Rondo to hit long 2s at a much better rate than Dirk Nowitzki.

[Cinzilla]

The Celtics won this game because Rondo, Garnett and Davis went 19-25 their shots out of 10ft. That's an efficiency above 75% in long 2s.

If it wasn't for that, it would have been another lackluster performance, very similar to the past ones. Similar in the boards, similar inability to get high percentage shots, similar shot-selection, similar defense. Even a heavily perimeter oriented team like this season Spurs beat them in points in the paint.

Anyone who expects similar performances in the playoffs is going to be sorely disappointed because there's no way such efficiency in long 2s is sustainable.

OP is seeing things that didn't happen and only wrote this post because of the final score. Had they been normal in those long jumpers and lost another game this thread wouldn't exist.

Welcome to cblog. How much do you charge to cross the bridge you guard?

What do you mean?

[angryguy77]

The Celtics won this game because Rondo, Garnett and Davis went 19-25 their shots out of 10ft. That's an efficiency above 75% in long 2s.

If it wasn't for that, it would have been another lackluster performance, very similar to the past ones. Similar in the boards, similar inability to get high percentage shots, similar shot-selection, similar defense. Even a heavily perimeter oriented team like this season Spurs beat them in points in the paint.

Anyone who expects similar performances in the playoffs is going to be sorely disappointed because there's no way such efficiency in long 2s is sustainable.

OP is seeing things that didn't happen and only wrote this post because of the final score. Had they been normal in those long jumpers and lost another game this thread wouldn't exist.

You're assuming the efficiency on long 2's is unsustainable but the Celtics have proved all season long that when they're healthy and well rested they do have the best shooting percentage in the league. It's not a fluke or a one game thing, it's their trademark and it's due to proper rest and focus, two things which are a big part of the playoffs.

Well, maybe I'm assuming that efficiency is unsustainable because it's never been achieved in the history of league or the playoffs. Do you think it's a good enough reason? What happened today is the definition of fluke. This kind of efficiency in those shots happens a few games per season. You must have no idea about the numbers if you believe this is sustainable.

The Celtics shoot about 41% in their 2pt shots out of 10ft. Rondo makes around 40% of that type (and that's because doesn't shoot contested ones), not 2 out of 3. Garnett hits them at a 44% clip, not 80%.

You are 100% wrong: if they are going to win, it's going to be in a completely different way. By doing what they were doing earlier in the season, dominating their glass, getting high-percentage shots near the rim, getting good looks from beyond the line and defending the paint and the transition. Not by relying on Rondo to hit long 2s at a much better rate than Dirk Nowitzki.

You do realize that Romdo basically made up for Rays absence tonight don't you?

Yes we shot well tonight, but as drucci said, we were rested and motivated. This team has the potential to win in different fashions.

And to think, we did this w/o perk

[Q_FBE]

I was never really concerned about the Celtics and I believe that the same team is there plus the O'Neals, Krstic, Delonte, Von Wafer, Murphy, Arroyo, and especially Jeff Green minus Perkins and Tony Allen..... You don't think the O'Neals, Murphy, Green, Delonte can't step it up for the playoffs.

And with that I am back posting to get in shape for the playoffs.

[angryguy77]

The Celtics won this game because Rondo, Garnett and Davis went 19-25 their shots out of 10ft. That's an efficiency above 75% in long 2s.

If it wasn't for that, it would have been another lackluster performance, very similar to the past ones. Similar in the boards, similar inability to get high percentage shots, similar shot-selection, similar defense. Even a heavily perimeter oriented team like this season Spurs beat them in points in the paint.

Anyone who expects similar performances in the playoffs is going to be sorely disappointed because there's no way such efficiency in long 2s is sustainable.

OP is seeing things that didn't happen and only wrote this post because of the final score. Had they been normal in those long jumpers and lost another game this thread wouldn't exist.

Welcome to cblog. How much do you charge to cross the bridge you guard?

What do you mean?

Edited.

Please no attacks.
Every oppinion deserves respect
and he have one stat
why not talk about that

Edgar

[Cinzilla]

The Celtics won this game because Rondo, Garnett and Davis went 19-25 their shots out of 10ft. That's an efficiency above 75% in long 2s.

If it wasn't for that, it would have been another lackluster performance, very similar to the past ones. Similar in the boards, similar inability to get high percentage shots, similar shot-selection, similar defense. Even a heavily perimeter oriented team like this season Spurs beat them in points in the paint.

Anyone who expects similar performances in the playoffs is going to be sorely disappointed because there's no way such efficiency in long 2s is sustainable.

OP is seeing things that didn't happen and only wrote this post because of the final score. Had they been normal in those long jumpers and lost another game this thread wouldn't exist.

Welcome to cblog. How much do you charge to cross the bridge you guard?

What do you mean?

Edited

[Cinzilla]

The Celtics won this game because Rondo, Garnett and Davis went 19-25 their shots out of 10ft. That's an efficiency above 75% in long 2s.

If it wasn't for that, it would have been another lackluster performance, very similar to the past ones. Similar in the boards, similar inability to get high percentage shots, similar shot-selection, similar defense. Even a heavily perimeter oriented team like this season Spurs beat them in points in the paint.

Anyone who expects similar performances in the playoffs is going to be sorely disappointed because there's no way such efficiency in long 2s is sustainable.

OP is seeing things that didn't happen and only wrote this post because of the final score. Had they been normal in those long jumpers and lost another game this thread wouldn't exist.

You're assuming the efficiency on long 2's is unsustainable but the Celtics have proved all season long that when they're healthy and well rested they do have the best shooting percentage in the league. It's not a fluke or a one game thing, it's their trademark and it's due to proper rest and focus, two things which are a big part of the playoffs.

Well, maybe I'm assuming that efficiency is unsustainable because it's never been achieved in the history of league or the playoffs. Do you think it's a good enough reason? What happened today is the definition of fluke. This kind of efficiency in those shots happens a few games per season. You must have no idea about the numbers if you believe this is sustainable.

The Celtics shoot about 41% in their 2pt shots out of 10ft. Rondo makes around 40% of that type (and that's because doesn't shoot contested ones), not 2 out of 3. Garnett hits them at a 44% clip, not 80%.

You are 100% wrong: if they are going to win, it's going to be in a completely different way. By doing what they were doing earlier in the season, dominating their glass, getting high-percentage shots near the rim, getting good looks from beyond the line and defending the paint and the transition. Not by relying on Rondo to hit long 2s at a much better rate than Dirk Nowitzki.

You do realize that Romdo basically made up for Rays absence tonight don't you?

Yes we shot well tonight, but as drucci said, we were rested and motivated. This team has the potential to win in different fashions.

And to think, we did this w/o perk

I'm not sure what's so hard to understand about this: they won't shoot this % on 2pt jumpers regardless of how rested and motivated they are.

To win a championship, they can't rely on this type of game. The way they played tonight is NOT the type of game they were playing earlier in the season. The only common point is the win at the end of the game; the OP allowed that to fool him.

[Edgar]

Please no personal attack
Last call.


My personal oppinion is tha a game based on mid range FG shooting is not the way to go.
It was nice to see they were falling tonight

[thirstyboots18]

I didn't panic either, but I was getting a little worried about absorbing the new guys into the team concept.  Delonte has shown that he can handle the second unit  Rondo is thriving with a little rest.  I expect strong play from the team for the rest of the season and think there is a possibility they can take back #1 seed in the East.  I expect a W tomorrow, the second game of a back to back on the road, to start them in the right direction, and to show the second unit how the team, the whole team, is expected to play.  Even wo Krstic, and with JO possibly not in shape for this kind of challenge so soon in his return.  Win (or lose) the effort should be there.

[chambers]

The Celtics won this game because Rondo, Garnett and Davis went 19-25 their shots out of 10ft. That's an efficiency above 75% in long 2s.

If it wasn't for that, it would have been another lackluster performance, very similar to the past ones. Similar in the boards, similar inability to get high percentage shots, similar shot-selection, similar defense. Even a heavily perimeter oriented team like this season Spurs beat them in points in the paint.

Anyone who expects similar performances in the playoffs is going to be sorely disappointed because there's no way such efficiency in long 2s is sustainable.

OP is seeing things that didn't happen and only wrote this post because of the final score. Had they been normal in those long jumpers and lost another game this thread wouldn't exist.

This is kind of true, but you're also not taking into account how much time KG was on the bench.
We also had a center in his first game back playing critical minutes and our shooting guard played awfully.
Yes they shot well from the perimeter but Rondo in particular was fantastic in penetrating.
The spurs had a full team.
We are still missing our starting center and just lost a back up center.
What OP is saying is that whilst it isn't exactly a perfect game...
We just beat the number 1 team whilst still missing our starting center and KG sitting on the bench, and our star shooting guard having one of his worst games as a Celtic.
In other words, this team was focused and motivated to prove themselves vs an elite team.

But, the Spurs are in a slump too- although they did play well- bar their shooting. They lived and died at the 3 point line.

[jdz101]

There were some shocking refereeing calls.

I distinctly remember a no-call where rondo was decked by Duncan on a layup and parker sprinted up the other end and got a 3 point play in very similar circumstances.

As for the argument about the shooting efficiency, I'm fairly sure this team deserves being called better than a fluke considering they've been the most efficient team from attempts for quite a while. This team gets good open shots when rondo is playing well, and they made them tonight. No fluke involved.