How bright is the Celtics future with Rondo/Jeff Green?

[wahz]

I think several ideas from above are right.

Its really the POTENTIAL asset's of Green, Rondo, Baby, Krstic, Bradley, DWest 2 picks (probably) in 2012, and huge cap room by 2012/2013 to sign a superstar. This assumes we kept that larger core intact which I highly doubt happens as it would mean resigning players when DA may have other ideas but for this thread lets pretend.

Rondo
West Bradley
Green Pick
Baby Pick MlE
xxx Krstic

If Bradley pans out(no idea and I submit no one knows), if Green learns to be a solid defender and better rebounder, and Rondo becomes more consistent and that superstar is really great, well you are really onto something. You have the mle too.

Who knows maybe DA is thinking like that but I suspect we will see Baby and Krstic gone and maybe Delonte

[Interceptor]

Too much is being made of the "Big 3" thing.  Did everyone forget how horrible this team looked offensively when Nate was running the point?  Rondo is an excellent player in his own right, and he will adjust.  Maybe we'll see some new tricks, when the geriatrics are gone and he has more people (like Green) that can run the floor with him.

Anyway, while KG's number is almost up, Pierce is still around for a while yet, and Ray can play until he's forty and/or gets tired of being awesome.  I think that the post-three era is going to come gradually, with plenty of time for Rondo to make corrections.

[Marcus13]

Too much is being made of the "Big 3" thing.  Did everyone forget how horrible this team looked offensively when Nate was running the point?   Rondo is an excellent player in his own right, and he will adjust.  Maybe we'll see some new tricks, when the geriatrics are gone and he has more people (like Green) that can run the floor with him.

Anyway, while KG's number is almost up, Pierce is still around for a while yet, and Ray can play until he's forty and/or gets tired of being awesome.  I think that the post-three era is going to come gradually, with plenty of time for Rondo to make corrections.

Better than they have looked for the last few weeks since the trade deadline fiasco

[CoachBo]

Too much is being made of the "Big 3" thing.  Did everyone forget how horrible this team looked offensively when Nate was running the point?  Rondo is an excellent player in his own right, and he will adjust.  Maybe we'll see some new tricks, when the geriatrics are gone and he has more people (like Green) that can run the floor with him.

Anyway, while KG's number is almost up, Pierce is still around for a while yet, and Ray can play until he's forty and/or gets tired of being awesome.  I think that the post-three era is going to come gradually, with plenty of time for Rondo to make corrections.

Garnett's number is hardly up. He's playing at a level we haven't seen since 2008.

[j804]

Too much is being made of the "Big 3" thing.  Did everyone forget how horrible this team looked offensively when Nate was running the point?  Rondo is an excellent player in his own right, and he will adjust.  Maybe we'll see some new tricks, when the geriatrics are gone and he has more people (like Green) that can run the floor with him.

Anyway, while KG's number is almost up, Pierce is still around for a while yet, and Ray can play until he's forty and/or gets tired of being awesome.  I think that the post-three era is going to come gradually, with plenty of time for Rondo to make corrections.

Garnett's number is hardly up. He's playing at a level we haven't seen since 2008.

He has looked great I worry about him running out of gas come playoff time though.

[Interceptor]

Better than they have looked for the last few weeks since the trade deadline fiasco

Maybe so, but there's a clear difference between someone who never makes the offense look good (Nate), and someone who occasionally makes the offense look bad (Rondo).  My point was that this relationship is a two-way street:  sure, Rondo benefits from having a bunch of HOFs on his team to pass to, but those old men also benefit from having an elite point guard to get them the ball.  And you can see what happened when they didn't.

Garnett's number is hardly up. He's playing at a level we haven't seen since 2008.

And he's been in the league since 1995.  I'm not saying that KG is two games away from needing a walker, I'm just pointing out that his NBA career is nearly over, and he's almost certainly going to be the first to go.

[LooseCannon]

Rondo and Jeff Green is not a very good core moving forward.

Do Rondo, Green, and a big who is above average on both offense and defense and worth a max contract make for a good core moving forward?  Does anyone besides Dwight Howard fit that description while being available as a free agent in 2012 or 2013?

[indeedproceed]

Rondo and Jeff Green is not a very good core moving forward.

Do Rondo, Green, and a big who is above average on both offense and defense and worth a max contract make for a good core moving forward?  Does anyone besides Dwight Howard fit that description while being available as a free agent in 2012 or 2013?

Marc Gasol is a restricted FA this season. If he takes the qualifying offer and does not sign an extension, he'll be available. Since Memphis is currently looking at a 5 yr extension with Z-Bo, that's a possibility.

[slamtheking]

how bright is the future with them?  Depends on who Danny puts on the floor with them. 

If Danny finds a legit superstar and a legit second banana to start with them and has also rounded out the roster with a good supporting cast, then the future is bright. 

Anything less than that, we'll be lucky to be a mediocre team that could probably get the 8th seed in the East and just spin in the whirlpool of mediocrity like the Pacers.

[indeedproceed]

Rondo and Jeff Green is not a very good core moving forward.

Do Rondo, Green, and a big who is above average on both offense and defense and worth a max contract make for a good core moving forward?  Does anyone besides Dwight Howard fit that description while being available as a free agent in 2012 or 2013?

Marc Gasol is a restricted FA this season. If he takes the qualifying offer and does not sign an extension, he'll be available. Since Memphis is currently looking at a 5 yr extension with Z-Bo, that's a possibility.

Also Andrew Bynum, Roy Hibbert, JaVale McGee, DeAndre Jordan, Chris Kaman, not any of which are world-beaters, but all solid pieces.

[slamtheking]

Rondo and Jeff Green is not a very good core moving forward.

Do Rondo, Green, and a big who is above average on both offense and defense and worth a max contract make for a good core moving forward?  Does anyone besides Dwight Howard fit that description while being available as a free agent in 2012 or 2013?

Marc Gasol is a restricted FA this season. If he takes the qualifying offer and does not sign an extension, he'll be available. Since Memphis is currently looking at a 5 yr extension with Z-Bo, that's a possibility.

Also Andrew Bynum, Roy Hibbert, JaVale McGee, DeAndre Jordan, Chris Kaman, not any of which are world-beaters, but all solid pieces.

Of that list, I'd be interested in Jordan and Hibbert as centers that still have potential to improve.  Bynum interests me only from the perspective of weakening the Laker frontcourt.  Mcgee's too soft from what I've seen of him and Kaman's a bit older than I want for a player to put with Rondo and Green (as a starter --> as bench help, he'd be fine)

[Celtic#9]

   Since there won't be any All Star SF SG or PF (that i can think of) in the next 2 years in free agency, I would like to see what we can get through trades and the draft. Clearly if we get D12 none of the rest of this post really matters. Anyways, I don't thik Danny is afraid to trade away the Big 3 if it means getting better. In order to get better I think we need to get higher picks for the long run. Hopefully we come out with a star. Depending on how we do this playoff run I think will determine when we start rebuilding.

[Who]

Rondo and Jeff Green is not a very good core moving forward.

Do Rondo, Green, and a big who is above average on both offense and defense and worth a max contract make for a good core moving forward?  Does anyone besides Dwight Howard fit that description while being available as a free agent in 2012 or 2013?

Marc Gasol is a restricted FA this season. If he takes the qualifying offer and does not sign an extension, he'll be available. Since Memphis is currently looking at a 5 yr extension with Z-Bo, that's a possibility.

Also Andrew Bynum, Roy Hibbert, JaVale McGee, DeAndre Jordan, Chris Kaman, not any of which are world-beaters, but all solid pieces.

Of that list, I'd be interested in Jordan and Hibbert as centers that still have potential to improve.  Bynum interests me only from the perspective of weakening the Laker frontcourt.  Mcgee's too soft from what I've seen of him and Kaman's a bit older than I want for a player to put with Rondo and Green (as a starter --> as bench help, he'd be fine)

Roy Hibbert is pretty soft too. Especially since he lost the weight.

Gets pushed around on the block far too easily for a guy his size.

[Who]

Rondo and Jeff Green is not a very good core moving forward.

Do Rondo, Green, and a big who is above average on both offense and defense and worth a max contract make for a good core moving forward?  Does anyone besides Dwight Howard fit that description while being available as a free agent in 2012 or 2013?

Marc Gasol is a restricted FA this season. If he takes the qualifying offer and does not sign an extension, he'll be available. Since Memphis is currently looking at a 5 yr extension with Z-Bo, that's a possibility.

Yeah, I think Marc Gasol is one of those guys who could easily end up with the qualifying offer.

He is a difficult guy to price in that $9-12 million per year range and being a restricted free agent ... teams will have to overpay to get him out of Memphis and players in that price range have a difficult time getting those type of offers. The ones that do are mostly high end potential guys rather than a guy like M.Gasol.

Gasol could easily end up in a position where he struggles to get an offer sheet in the summer ... and if Memphis tries to low ball him once there, Gasol could decide to take the qualifying offer and wait it out until next season.

[slamtheking]

Rondo and Jeff Green is not a very good core moving forward.

Do Rondo, Green, and a big who is above average on both offense and defense and worth a max contract make for a good core moving forward?  Does anyone besides Dwight Howard fit that description while being available as a free agent in 2012 or 2013?

Marc Gasol is a restricted FA this season. If he takes the qualifying offer and does not sign an extension, he'll be available. Since Memphis is currently looking at a 5 yr extension with Z-Bo, that's a possibility.

Also Andrew Bynum, Roy Hibbert, JaVale McGee, DeAndre Jordan, Chris Kaman, not any of which are world-beaters, but all solid pieces.

Of that list, I'd be interested in Jordan and Hibbert as centers that still have potential to improve.  Bynum interests me only from the perspective of weakening the Laker frontcourt.  Mcgee's too soft from what I've seen of him and Kaman's a bit older than I want for a player to put with Rondo and Green (as a starter --> as bench help, he'd be fine)

Roy Hibbert is pretty soft too. Especially since he lost the weight.

Gets pushed around on the block far too easily for a guy his size.

his bulking up is part of what I'd consider in his 'potential to improve'.  I do agree that he needs to develop some strength so that he can't be pushed around and thereby become a solid center and building block.