Green and Pierce

[j804]

Doc is still trying to figure out how to best use Jeff Green - Link- Nice article.

But this part is a little concerning:

"If you're drafted fifth overall, and you play well, and you're 24 and your team comes to you with an extension offer, if it's not a max deal or near a max deal, there's really no incentive to do it,'' said David Falk, Green's agent. "He might not have been the No. 2 guy in Oklahoma City, but there are a teams out there that might look at him as their No. 2."

I hope we are able to re-sign him to a reasonable contract.

doubt it

but if he's a big piece on our way to 18 by all means he'll deserve it

[barefacedmonk]

Doc is still trying to figure out how to best use Jeff Green - Link- Nice article.

But this part is a little concerning:

"If you're drafted fifth overall, and you play well, and you're 24 and your team comes to you with an extension offer, if it's not a max deal or near a max deal, there's really no incentive to do it,'' said David Falk, Green's agent. "He might not have been the No. 2 guy in Oklahoma City, but there are a teams out there that might look at him as their No. 2."

I hope we are able to re-sign him to a reasonable contract.

doubt it

but if he's a big piece on our way to 18 by all means he'll deserve it

He rejected a 10m/yr deal that OKC had offered...I wonder how much we'll have to pay to get him to re-sign.

[BballTim]

i mentioned this in an earlier thread, but having green at the 3 and pierce at the 2 really screws things up for the lakers when they are on defense. because pierce is so much bigger than ray allen, fisher cant guard pierce, so they have to put him back on rondo and kobe is forced to guard either the bigger pierce or green (artest guarding the other). i think green can post kobe and hopefully draw fouls on him, while rondo will run fisher outta the gym.

  Fisher couldn't cover Ray either.

[Kane3387]

i mentioned this in an earlier thread, but having green at the 3 and pierce at the 2 really screws things up for the lakers when they are on defense. because pierce is so much bigger than ray allen, fisher cant guard pierce, so they have to put him back on rondo and kobe is forced to guard either the bigger pierce or green (artest guarding the other). i think green can post kobe and hopefully draw fouls on him, while rondo will run fisher outta the gym.

BAM!!!! Right on the money here!!! Everyone says this team made us worse against the lakers...

Assuming an Oneal  or two comes back then their size won't be that tough to combat and they can no longer afford to have Kobe on Rondo.

TP!!!!

[Kane3387]

i mentioned this in an earlier thread, but having green at the 3 and pierce at the 2 really screws things up for the lakers when they are on defense. because pierce is so much bigger than ray allen, fisher cant guard pierce, so they have to put him back on rondo and kobe is forced to guard either the bigger pierce or green (artest guarding the other). i think green can post kobe and hopefully draw fouls on him, while rondo will run fisher outta the gym.

  Fisher couldn't cover Ray either.

He could when Ray's shot went to the trash after game 2. Ray doesn't have the size to abuse Fisher.

LA would have to put Odom at the PG and play big with Odom, Kobe, Artest, Gasol, and Bynum.

While Odom is a point forward I think a full court press would cause him issues. Especially with Rondo's greedy hands lol.

The chess match between Phil and Doc in the rubber match would be fun to watch. 

[mgent]

Doc is still trying to figure out how to best use Jeff Green - Link- Nice article.

But this part is a little concerning:

"If you're drafted fifth overall, and you play well, and you're 24 and your team comes to you with an extension offer, if it's not a max deal or near a max deal, there's really no incentive to do it,'' said David Falk, Green's agent. "He might not have been the No. 2 guy in Oklahoma City, but there are a teams out there that might look at him as their No. 2."

I hope we are able to re-sign him to a reasonable contract.

doubt it

but if he's a big piece on our way to 18 by all means he'll deserve it

He doesn't deserve a huge contract that will hurt us in the future just because he played a role in winning a champion ONE YEAR.  Do you think Posey deserved the contract he wanted for helping us win 17?

If his agent meant a number 2 on a team like the Timberwolves, maybe.  But he is definitely not a number 2 option on a championship team right now, or even a good one.  In our case we'd be paying more for him than our number 1 option Rondo.  Rondo+Green is not a team to build around especially with 1+2s like Lebron+Wade, Durant+Westbrook, Kobe+Gasol, Melo+Amare out there.

[kozlodoev]

i mentioned this in an earlier thread, but having green at the 3 and pierce at the 2 really screws things up for the lakers when they are on defense. because pierce is so much bigger than ray allen, fisher cant guard pierce, so they have to put him back on rondo and kobe is forced to guard either the bigger pierce or green (artest guarding the other). i think green can post kobe and hopefully draw fouls on him, while rondo will run fisher outta the gym.

Either that, or they can just field Kobe, Artest, Odom, Gasol, and Bynum.

[OsirusCeltics]

i mentioned this in an earlier thread, but having green at the 3 and pierce at the 2 really screws things up for the lakers when they are on defense. because pierce is so much bigger than ray allen, fisher cant guard pierce, so they have to put him back on rondo and kobe is forced to guard either the bigger pierce or green (artest guarding the other). i think green can post kobe and hopefully draw fouls on him, while rondo will run fisher outta the gym.

Either that, or they can just field Kobe, Artest, Odom, Gasol, and Bynum.

Kobe would now have to guard Rondo which would tire him out. Then he would not be able to be effective on the offensive end

[ballin]

Doc is still trying to figure out how to best use Jeff Green - Link- Nice article.

But this part is a little concerning:

"If you're drafted fifth overall, and you play well, and you're 24 and your team comes to you with an extension offer, if it's not a max deal or near a max deal, there's really no incentive to do it,'' said David Falk, Green's agent. "He might not have been the No. 2 guy in Oklahoma City, but there are a teams out there that might look at him as their No. 2."

I hope we are able to re-sign him to a reasonable contract.

doubt it

but if he's a big piece on our way to 18 by all means he'll deserve it

He doesn't deserve a huge contract that will hurt us in the future just because he played a role in winning a champion ONE YEAR.  Do you think Posey deserved the contract he wanted for helping us win 17?

If his agent meant a number 2 on a team like the Timberwolves, maybe.  But he is definitely not a number 2 option on a championship team right now, or even a good one.  In our case we'd be paying more for him than our number 1 option Rondo.  Rondo+Green is not a team to build around especially with 1+2s like Lebron+Wade, Durant+Westbrook, Kobe+Gasol, Melo+Amare out there.

I agree. I wouldn't sign Green for very much at all to be honest. He's got "potential", sure, whatever that means, but he's honestly a bench player on a contending team (literally, as in right now on the Celtics). If he had to be a starter on a contending team, that team wouldn't be a contender unless he were the 4th option at best.

[wiley]

Doc is still trying to figure out how to best use Jeff Green - Link- Nice article.

But this part is a little concerning:

"If you're drafted fifth overall, and you play well, and you're 24 and your team comes to you with an extension offer, if it's not a max deal or near a max deal, there's really no incentive to do it,'' said David Falk, Green's agent. "He might not have been the No. 2 guy in Oklahoma City, but there are a teams out there that might look at him as their No. 2."

I hope we are able to re-sign him to a reasonable contract.

doubt it

but if he's a big piece on our way to 18 by all means he'll deserve it

He doesn't deserve a huge contract that will hurt us in the future just because he played a role in winning a champion ONE YEAR.  Do you think Posey deserved the contract he wanted for helping us win 17?

If his agent meant a number 2 on a team like the Timberwolves, maybe.  But he is definitely not a number 2 option on a championship team right now, or even a good one.  In our case we'd be paying more for him than our number 1 option Rondo.  Rondo+Green is not a team to build around especially with 1+2s like Lebron+Wade, Durant+Westbrook, Kobe+Gasol, Melo+Amare out there.

I agree. I wouldn't sign Green for very much at all to be honest. He's got "potential", sure, whatever that means, but he's honestly a bench player on a contending team (literally, as in right now on the Celtics). If he had to be a starter on a contending team, that team wouldn't be a contender unless he were the 4th option at best.

He'd make a great  3rd or 4th option as a starter on a contending team imo......
I mean, if Durant were a 2-guard Green would have been able to start at the 3 and be the third option behind Durant and Westbrook....no problem there....

He could start at the 3 for the Lakers and be the third option behind Kobe and Pau.  etc..etc...

I don't know what he's worth, but I know he's good enough to be a starter on any team, contender or not.  He's not here, yet, only because we still have a hall of famer playing high level ball at his position

[Fafnir]

i mentioned this in an earlier thread, but having green at the 3 and pierce at the 2 really screws things up for the lakers when they are on defense. because pierce is so much bigger than ray allen, fisher cant guard pierce, so they have to put him back on rondo and kobe is forced to guard either the bigger pierce or green (artest guarding the other). i think green can post kobe and hopefully draw fouls on him, while rondo will run fisher outta the gym.

Either that, or they can just field Kobe, Artest, Odom, Gasol, and Bynum.

They might try that it'd work defensively, doubt it would be an effective counter on the offense end though. Their offense would be completely disrupted.

[Carhole]

i mentioned this in an earlier thread, but having green at the 3 and pierce at the 2 really screws things up for the lakers when they are on defense. because pierce is so much bigger than ray allen, fisher cant guard pierce, so they have to put him back on rondo and kobe is forced to guard either the bigger pierce or green (artest guarding the other). i think green can post kobe and hopefully draw fouls on him, while rondo will run fisher outta the gym.

Either that, or they can just field Kobe, Artest, Odom, Gasol, and Bynum.

Kobe would now have to guard Rondo which would tire him out. Then he would not be able to be effective on the offensive end

Kobe guards rondo everytime we play them and in all 7 games last year. He doesnt get tired he just stands at the free throw line and cheats toward the play side of the floor.

[arctic 3.0]

i mentioned this in an earlier thread, but having green at the 3 and pierce at the 2 really screws things up for the lakers when they are on defense. because pierce is so much bigger than ray allen, fisher cant guard pierce, so they have to put him back on rondo and kobe is forced to guard either the bigger pierce or green (artest guarding the other). i think green can post kobe and hopefully draw fouls on him, while rondo will run fisher outta the gym.

good post tp

[KevinGamble]

i mentioned this in an earlier thread, but having green at the 3 and pierce at the 2 really screws things up for the lakers when they are on defense. because pierce is so much bigger than ray allen, fisher cant guard pierce, so they have to put him back on rondo and kobe is forced to guard either the bigger pierce or green (artest guarding the other). i think green can post kobe and hopefully draw fouls on him, while rondo will run fisher outta the gym.

+1
this would be a dream come true to get 18 on the lakers.  soooo sweet.  can they make it out the west?   
how about celtics on defense vs. the lakers? 
rondo on fish, think game 6 in 08
pierce on kobe worked out pretty good for us!
Green on Artest?  doesn't have to do much, really?

good post tp

[zerophase]

Doc is still trying to figure out how to best use Jeff Green - Link- Nice article.

But this part is a little concerning:

"If you're drafted fifth overall, and you play well, and you're 24 and your team comes to you with an extension offer, if it's not a max deal or near a max deal, there's really no incentive to do it,'' said David Falk, Green's agent. "He might not have been the No. 2 guy in Oklahoma City, but there are a teams out there that might look at him as their No. 2."

I hope we are able to re-sign him to a reasonable contract.

doubt it

but if he's a big piece on our way to 18 by all means he'll deserve it

He doesn't deserve a huge contract that will hurt us in the future just because he played a role in winning a champion ONE YEAR.  Do you think Posey deserved the contract he wanted for helping us win 17?

If his agent meant a number 2 on a team like the Timberwolves, maybe.  But he is definitely not a number 2 option on a championship team right now, or even a good one.  In our case we'd be paying more for him than our number 1 option Rondo.  Rondo+Green is not a team to build around especially with 1+2s like Lebron+Wade, Durant+Westbrook, Kobe+Gasol, Melo+Amare out there.

I agree. I wouldn't sign Green for very much at all to be honest. He's got "potential", sure, whatever that means, but he's honestly a bench player on a contending team (literally, as in right now on the Celtics). If he had to be a starter on a contending team, that team wouldn't be a contender unless he were the 4th option at best.

He'd make a great  3rd or 4th option as a starter on a contending team imo......
I mean, if Durant were a 2-guard Green would have been able to start at the 3 and be the third option behind Durant and Westbrook....no problem there....

He could start at the 3 for the Lakers and be the third option behind Kobe and Pau.  etc..etc...

I don't know what he's worth, but I know he's good enough to be a starter on any team, contender or not.  He's not here, yet, only because we still have a hall of famer playing high level ball at his position

Chillax on the agent. His agent is just trying to get his client PAID. I'm pretty sure if he has success here he'll re-sign for a reasonable price. That's just his agent talking, not Green himself. And I'm not worried cause Danny has never been one to really overpay for people (he let Posey walk).