ESPN Fab Five Documentary

[Mike-Dub]

I woulda watched but I don't even have a TV in my dorm anymore..  .  Thank god for the internet though so I can watch my teams. 

I woulda liked to watch the UNLV document too.

[greg683x]

that was a really well put together documentary.   Howard, Rose, and Webber were all players I hated as pros.  Though Rose, and Webber especially, I think are really great basketball analysts.

I've cracked so many jokes about Webber over the years about calling that time out, but man, after seeing all that footage and being a bit older now, I couldnt help but feel sorry for the guy.

I cant imagine what it would be like having the whole world (or at least a good portion of it) wanting you to fail and not only giving them what they wanted to see, but also be directly responsible for it on the biggest possible stage....and on top of all that, only be 19 years old.

I dont look at this as being like the Miami Heat.  Lebron, Bosh, and Wade are already established stars and making millions and millions of dollars.  These guys were friends for the most part who wanted to play together.

Also, just a few remarks about Webber again, he seems so well spoken and mild mannered now a days, it's pretty easy to forget what a knucklehead he was when he was young, both at Michigan and in his first few years in the NBA with GS and the Bullets.  Man I hated him back in the day.

[Eja117]

I think a big difference between the Fab 5 and Miami is that it seems unlikely to me that Miami will have to vacate anything.

[greg683x]

I think a big difference between the Fab 5 and Miami is that it seems unlikely to me that Miami will have to vacate anything.

ehh it depends on your opinion of what they vacated to begin with.  They didnt win any national championships (at least as far as the fab 5 is concerned), they just had final four banners.

to me that would be the equivalent of the Heat raising a Eastern Conference Champions banner after losing in the finals.  I know some teams do it, but as Celtics fans Im sure we can all agree that we would laugh at the idea of doing it

[Eja117]

I think a big difference between the Fab 5 and Miami is that it seems unlikely to me that Miami will have to vacate anything.

ehh it depends on your opinion of what they vacated to begin with.  They didnt win any national championships (at least as far as the fab 5 is concerned), they just had final four banners.

to me that would be the equivalent of the Heat raising a Eastern Conference Champions banner after losing in the finals.  I know some teams do it, but as Celtics fans Im sure we can all agree that we would laugh at the idea of doing it

You're right about that although they did it with freshmen and sophomores. It would be like doing that in the NBA with 5 rookies.

[sportsfreak]

I think a big difference between the Fab 5 and Miami is that it seems unlikely to me that Miami will have to vacate anything.

ehh it depends on your opinion of what they vacated to begin with.  They didnt win any national championships (at least as far as the fab 5 is concerned), they just had final four banners.

to me that would be the equivalent of the Heat raising a Eastern Conference Champions banner after losing in the finals.  I know some teams do it, but as Celtics fans Im sure we can all agree that we would laugh at the idea of doing it

You're right about that although they did it with freshmen and sophomores. It would be like doing that in the NBA with 5 rookies.

Yeah, that is true doing it with 5 rookies. But the draft prevents that from happening so the next closest thing is free agency, thats why i brought up the Miami reference.

I wonder if there will be a 30 for 30 on Red or the Lakers Celtics rivalries in the past. They did one on the Yankees and Steinbrenner and also one on Reggie Miller and The Knicks. Maybe a whole bunch of us can convince Bill Simmons to see if he can find someone for that story.

[bdm860]

I enjoyed it, but didn't think it was anything great.  The book that came out like 18 years ago was way better.

[barefacedmonk]

Grant Hill's response to Jalen Rose's comments in the documentary. It's a good read, imo.

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[Larry Pistol]

Grant Hill's response to Jalen Rose's comments in the documentary. It's a good read, imo.

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TP.

Great response by Grant Hill as well.

[Megatron]

Grant Hill's response to Jalen Rose's comments in the documentary. It's a good read, imo.

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TP.

Great response by Grant Hill as well.

Grant Hills response was an overreaction in my opinion and proves that he cant relate to the other side. Its clear he has been hearing these types of insults his entire life, and chose this time after the Fab Five documentary to make his statement.

[Donoghus]

Grant Hill's response to Jalen Rose's comments in the documentary. It's a good read, imo.

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TP.

Great response by Grant Hill as well.

Grant Hills response was an overreaction in my opinion and proves that he cant relate to the other side. Its clear he has been hearing these types of insults his entire life, and chose this time after the Fab Five documentary to make his statement.

C'mon, an "overreaction"?

The guy was called an "uncle Tom" on a nationally televised program.  That's pretty offensive to some.  He had every right to come back the way he did. 

I don't think you could handle it much better than Grant Hill right there.

[Chief]

I love Michigan, Chris Webber, and the Fab Five. But after watching, I was very disappointed in Webber not being involved. To me, it showed real guilt. Having said that, I love him and McHale on NBA tv.

[jr_3421]

Grant Hill's response to Jalen Rose's comments in the documentary. It's a good read, imo.

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TP.

Great response by Grant Hill as well.

Grant Hills response was an overreaction in my opinion and proves that he cant relate to the other side. Its clear he has been hearing these types of insults his entire life, and chose this time after the Fab Five documentary to make his statement.

C'mon, an "overreaction"?

The guy was called an "uncle Tom" on a nationally televised program.  That's pretty offensive to some.  He had every right to come back the way he did. 

I don't think you could handle it much better than Grant Hill right there.

No it was an overreaction. If you break it down, this is a 38 year old man responding to a 20 year old kid's comments. Not that heroic. Jalen admitted that these were feelings that he had when he was playing, not now. He was jealous of someone in a better home situation and therefore took it out on him irrationally. Jalen admitted this was wrong, end of story. Grant Hill would have impressed me if he just didn't respond at all.

[yelkao]

Grant Hill's response to Jalen Rose's comments in the documentary. It's a good read, imo.

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TP.

Great response by Grant Hill as well.

Grant Hills response was an overreaction in my opinion and proves that he cant relate to the other side. Its clear he has been hearing these types of insults his entire life, and chose this time after the Fab Five documentary to make his statement.

C'mon, an "overreaction"?

The guy was called an "uncle Tom" on a nationally televised program.  That's pretty offensive to some.  He had every right to come back the way he did. 

I don't think you could handle it much better than Grant Hill right there.

No it was an overreaction. If you break it down, this is a 38 year old man responding to a 20 year old kid's comments. Not that heroic. Jalen admitted that these were feelings that he had when he was playing, not now. He was jealous of someone in a better home situation and therefore took it out on him irrationally. Jalen admitted this was wrong, end of story. Grant Hill would have impressed me if he just didn't respond at all.

I have to agree that it's an overreaction. jalen rose didn't call grant hill an "Uncle Tom" on national TV, he said he called him that almost 20 years ago...big difference

[Megatron]

Grant Hill's response to Jalen Rose's comments in the documentary. It's a good read, imo.

Link

TP.

Great response by Grant Hill as well.

Grant Hills response was an overreaction in my opinion and proves that he cant relate to the other side. Its clear he has been hearing these types of insults his entire life, and chose this time after the Fab Five documentary to make his statement.

C'mon, an "overreaction"?

The guy was called an "uncle Tom" on a nationally televised program.  That's pretty offensive to some.  He had every right to come back the way he did. 

I don't think you could handle it much better than Grant Hill right there.

Ive been called things far worse then an "uncle tom" and im sure Grant Hill has as well.

Hill was responding to a poor 19 year old kid from the ghetto who was jealous and bitter of Hill and his perfect life.