After heats latest skid, is Derrek Rose clear favorite for MVP?

[KobeShesNotConsenting!]

Someone explain to me why Dirk Nowitzki keeps gettin disrespected in this conversation? Dont they have a better record than the bulls? and the mavs went 2-7 without him.

[soap07]

Someone explain to me why Dirk Nowitzki keeps gettin disrespected in this conversation? Dont they have a better record than the bulls? and the mavs went 2-7 without him.

Because Dirk's stats are even more pedestrian than Rose's.

23 and 6.6 on 53% shooting? That doesn't scream MVP. He's 8th in the league in PER. He's 6th in Win Shares/48 if you're into that.

I get that he's 2-7, but it's not other MVP candidates' faults that they didn't get injured so they could show how much they mean to a team.

For the stat guys out there, did anyone here know that Dirk led the NBA in Win Shares/48 for three straight years (2005-2007)? That surprised me a bit.

[Fafnir]

Someone explain to me why Dirk Nowitzki keeps gettin disrespected in this conversation? Dont they have a better record than the bulls? and the mavs went 2-7 without him.

Because Dirk's stats are even more pedestrian than Rose's.

23 and 6.6 on 53% shooting? That doesn't scream MVP. He's 8th in the league in PER. He's 6th in Win Shares/48 if you're into that.

I get that he's 2-7, but it's not other MVP candidates' faults that they didn't get injured so they could show how much they mean to a team.

For the stat guys out there, did anyone here know that Dirk led the NBA in Win Shares/48 for three straight years (2005-2007)? That surprised me a bit.

Since when is 23 points on a slower pace team at .600+ TS pedestrian?

His stats are much better than Roses offensively, and its is offense that Rose's MVP case rests on.

Both are dragging their teams to their current level of offensive rating, but Dirk is dragging his team farther.

[Donoghus]

I think with a little less than a 1/4 of the season remaining, it's Derrick Rose's race to lose.

[Fafnir]

I think with a little less than a 1/4 of the season remaining, it's Derrick Rose's race to lose.

This is true, having a season that exceeds expectations is the best way to the MVP.

[KobeShesNotConsenting!]

Someone explain to me why Dirk Nowitzki keeps gettin disrespected in this conversation? Dont they have a better record than the bulls? and the mavs went 2-7 without him.

Because Dirk's stats are even more pedestrian than Rose's.

23 and 6.6 on 53% shooting? That doesn't scream MVP. He's 8th in the league in PER. He's 6th in Win Shares/48 if you're into that.

I get that he's 2-7, but it's not other MVP candidates' faults that they didn't get injured so they could show how much they mean to a team.

For the stat guys out there, did anyone here know that Dirk led the NBA in Win Shares/48 for three straight years (2005-2007)? That surprised me a bit.

Since when is 23 points on a slower pace team at .600+ TS pedestrian?

His stats are much better than Roses offensively, and its is offense that Rose's MVP case rests on.

Both are dragging their teams to their current level of offensive rating, but Dirk is dragging his team farther.

Thank you. And i'm not even sayin Dirk's the MVP but to say Rose is the clear favorite is wrong to me

[KG_ended_Bias]

Kevin Love is the clear MVP! Put Kobe on that team and take Love off & Minnesota misses the playoffs. So if the supposed best player in the league can't win there don't hold it against Love.

[chambers]

Kevin Love is the clear MVP! Put Kobe on that team and take Love off & Minnesota misses the playoffs. So if the supposed best player in the league can't win there don't hold it against Love.

put down the pipe bro!
 

[KG_ended_Bias]

Kevin Love is the clear MVP! Put Kobe on that team and take Love off & Minnesota misses the playoffs. So if the supposed best player in the league can't win there don't hold it against Love.

put down the pipe bro!

MVP should be about who performs the best through an 82 game season. Not who puts up decent stats on a winning team. If that was the case we should wait until the playoffs is over when Boston wins and give MVP to Pierce or Garnett.
 

[zerophase]

Dirk has already won the MVP so they probably don't want to give it to him again. I think Rose deserves it. They're the best break out team and seriously... what is Chicago without him.

[crafty213]

I think Rose wins it but do not think he is the right choice. Chicago's defense is the clear difference maker on that team. Besides the fact I cannot recall an MVP that was not TOP 5 in either PPG, Rebounds, Assists, FG%, or PER.  I'm not even sure if there has been one that did not win player of the month honors once during the course of the year.  My vote would go for Dwight Howard.  That team is nothing without him, he is the best defensive player in the game, and he is Top 5 in several key statistical categories.

[LB3533]

The Heat stars are much younger and in different junctures of their careers compared to the C's Big 3.

They did get caught up in the hype, because their combined talent is much greater than any other 3 combined players in the league.

[KobeShesNotConsenting!]

also since we're on the topic of mvp's, HOW did kobe get mvp over kg in 08? That was bull

[Chelm]

also since we're on the topic of mvp's, HOW did kobe get mvp over kg in 08? That was bull

He had better stats and was on a championship contender.  Plus, I think he got some votes because he had never won it before.  Imagine if KG got it that year... Kobe would be, by far, the best player ever to never win an MVP.

[RJ87]

also since we're on the topic of mvp's, HOW did kobe get mvp over kg in 08? That was bull

He had better stats and was on a championship contender.  Plus, I think he got some votes because he had never won it before.  Imagine if KG got it that year... Kobe would be, by far, the best player ever to never win an MVP.

Eh... I always thought CP3 got robbed that year so the NBA could give Kobe a lifetime achievement award.


BTW, Dwight Howard is the clear MVP favorite, with Rose coming in 2nd IMO.