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Re: Is Rondos lack of effort due to the trading of Perk?
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2011, 11:15:35 AM »

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This is how Rondo has played his entire career.  He plays sloppy, often lazy basketball in just about every game that is not against an elite PG or elite team.  He just does not have the focus that he has against the Paul's and Rose's or Heat and Lakers. 

And, given the number of minutes he has been playing lately with West out, it is magnified, since he is also pacing himself in games, and not taking unnecessary risks where he could get hurt or in foul trouble. 

This is just something that needs to be accepted about Rondo's game.  It has nothing to do with Perk.

Agree. theres the answer tp.

I don't agree. He picks his spots for sure, but I have never seen him so careless with the ball over a stretch of games like this. There may be evidence to the contrary, but man, he really looks sad out there.

Re: Is Rondos lack of effort due to the trading of Perk?
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2011, 11:20:01 AM »

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All I know is that Rondo usually outplays the opposing PG's.

Jennings kinda spanked us last night.

Just saying...

Re: Is Rondos lack of effort due to the trading of Perk?
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2011, 11:35:20 AM »

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This is how Rondo has played his entire career.  He plays sloppy, often lazy basketball in just about every game that is not against an elite PG or elite team.  He just does not have the focus that he has against the Paul's and Rose's or Heat and Lakers. 

And, given the number of minutes he has been playing lately with West out, it is magnified, since he is also pacing himself in games, and not taking unnecessary risks where he could get hurt or in foul trouble. 

This is just something that needs to be accepted about Rondo's game.  It has nothing to do with Perk.

Agree. theres the answer tp.

I don't agree. He picks his spots for sure, but I have never seen him so careless with the ball over a stretch of games like this. There may be evidence to the contrary, but man, he really looks sad out there.

Its tough to quantify this stuff, so I am not going to try to, but I think there are so many things against him here (huge minutes, no backup, long road trip), that it is really hard to point to the trade as a reason for his lack of effort.

Re: Is Rondos lack of effort due to the trading of Perk?
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2011, 11:42:19 AM »

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Amazing ... Big Baby was the bash of the month up until his injury ... now he's passed the torch to Rondo! :P

Rondo's not perfect, folks, nor is anyone on this team ... if you want to take the time, you can research the results and come up with half-a-dozen lousy games played by every member of this team. Seriously, last week there were at least six or seven negative Glen Davis threads, now there's at least as many negative Rondo threads!

Basketball is not about perfection, not even close, and despite the fact we are leading the Eastern Conference and in second place in the NBA, we're still finding plenty of reasons to dump on our core players. I just do not get it.
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Re: Is Rondos lack of effort due to the trading of Perk?
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2011, 11:47:59 AM »

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Amazing ... Big Baby was the bash of the month up until his injury ... now he's passed the torch to Rondo! :P

Rondo's not perfect, folks, nor is anyone on this team ... if you want to take the time, you can research the results and come up with half-a-dozen lousy games played by every member of this team. Seriously, last week there were at least six or seven negative Glen Davis threads, now there's at least as many negative Rondo threads!

Basketball is not about perfection, not even close, and despite the fact we are leading the Eastern Conference and in second place in the NBA, we're still finding plenty of reasons to dump on our core players. I just do not get it.

Yeah, I don't really understand this myself.  Some of us have been on Rondo for years for his inconsistency (and how it coincidently never shows up in elite matchups), but I don't see why suddenly there is anything different...particularly since they have been winning these games, and frankly, over the last couple weeks, he has had more reason than ever, due to the injuries, to pace himself.

Re: Is Rondos lack of effort due to the trading of Perk?
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2011, 11:55:53 AM »

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Amazing ... Big Baby was the bash of the month up until his injury ... now he's passed the torch to Rondo! :P

Rondo's not perfect, folks, nor is anyone on this team ... if you want to take the time, you can research the results and come up with half-a-dozen lousy games played by every member of this team. Seriously, last week there were at least six or seven negative Glen Davis threads, now there's at least as many negative Rondo threads!

Basketball is not about perfection, not even close, and despite the fact we are leading the Eastern Conference and in second place in the NBA, we're still finding plenty of reasons to dump on our core players. I just do not get it.

Yeah, I don't really understand this myself.  Some of us have been on Rondo for years for his inconsistency (and how it coincidently never shows up in elite matchups), but I don't see why suddenly there is anything different...particularly since they have been winning these games, and frankly, over the last couple weeks, he has had more reason than ever, due to the injuries, to pace himself.

Part why I hold up on judging Rondo until the playoffs. Over the past two years he has elevated his game overall in the playoffs. Plus the way I want him playing I wouldn't  want him playing like all year. But the least I ask is focus and effort, and that's an up and down thing for him.

Some of my favorite games from Rondo he has shot the ball quite poorly and didn't even rack up many assists, but he did a good job overall with the pace and kept the ball moving, and the effort defensively were there.

Biggest problem with him is that he simply controls the ball a lot for this team, and when he's not making things happen, it hurts us. It just comes with the responsibilities he has at hand.

Re: Is Rondos lack of effort due to the trading of Perk?
« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2011, 12:02:29 PM »

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Amazing ... Big Baby was the bash of the month up until his injury ... now he's passed the torch to Rondo! :P

Rondo's not perfect, folks, nor is anyone on this team ... if you want to take the time, you can research the results and come up with half-a-dozen lousy games played by every member of this team. Seriously, last week there were at least six or seven negative Glen Davis threads, now there's at least as many negative Rondo threads!

Basketball is not about perfection, not even close, and despite the fact we are leading the Eastern Conference and in second place in the NBA, we're still finding plenty of reasons to dump on our core players. I just do not get it.

Yeah, I don't really understand this myself.  Some of us have been on Rondo for years for his inconsistency (and how it coincidently never shows up in elite matchups), but I don't see why suddenly there is anything different...particularly since they have been winning these games, and frankly, over the last couple weeks, he has had more reason than ever, due to the injuries, to pace himself.

Part why I hold up on judging Rondo until the playoffs. Over the past two years he has elevated his game overall in the playoffs. Plus the way I want him playing I wouldn't  want him playing like all year. But the least I ask is focus and effort, and that's an up and down thing for him.

Some of my favorite games from Rondo he has shot the ball quite poorly and didn't even rack up many assists, but he did a good job overall with the pace and kept the ball moving, and the effort defensively were there.

Biggest problem with him is that he simply controls the ball a lot for this team, and when he's not making things happen, it hurts us. It just comes with the responsibilities he has at hand.

This is where I am now.  I am just over being bothered by this routine.  It is just who he is now, and the way he turns it on in the big games makes me think maybe its a necessary evil to keep his legs (and health) for the playoffs.

I do still think this will be a big knock against him once he is not surrounded by hall of famers who can pick him up, and he will need to change this to make the leap to the next level.  But for what this team needs from him now, I am OK with this (even if it is frustrating).

Re: Is Rondos lack of effort due to the trading of Perk?
« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2011, 12:10:34 PM »

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What everyone else said who didn't bash Rondo.

In the first five minutes of the game last night, he didn't play great.  Frankly, the entire team didn't have energy until that timeout when they were down 20-10.  Then he and everyone else picked up their game just fine.  Then in came Bradley to give the Bucks back the lead.  And then once he was banished to the bench, they played better again for the rest of the game.

In addition to what people said about his playing a lot of minutes, he also has to play a lot of minutes with the bench, since he has no effective backup.  That's not going to help his play much, when he runs an offense with three guys who don't know the offense, and it probably has some carryover effect for even when he's in with the rest of the regular starters.

And I don't agree with those he say he bails on lesser teams because he's lazy/careless/distracted/cocky/whatever.  At the beginning of the year, he was torching those cupcakes.  If he's backed off them at all, which is certainly debatable in itself, it's because he is hurt and tired, and is saving it for when it counts.

Please give Rondo the love he deserves, and hope that his jumper continues to improve this summer.

Re: Is Rondos lack of effort due to the trading of Perk?
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2011, 12:36:44 PM »

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it could be a contributing factor -- the whole team seems to have had the wind sucked out of them since the trades

Re: Is Rondos lack of effort due to the trading of Perk?
« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2011, 12:38:58 PM »

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Fatigue, and he is preserving himself for the postseason. There is a reason why Doc insisted on getting a backup PG, he has to rest Rondo. Plus Rondo is partly playing "bored" with half efforts but I'm fine with it as long as it's not like that every game and we keep winning. Everything to keep him fresh for the playoffs, he is the key!

Re: Is Rondos lack of effort due to the trading of Perk?
« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2011, 01:33:11 PM »

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I have to admit that this idea has crossed my mind. Since the Perk trade, Rondo has seemed disinterested more often.  It's happened before, but it's possible that it has something to do with it.

Disillusionment can be tough and some people don't handle it well.

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« Reply #26 on: March 07, 2011, 01:35:45 PM »

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I have to admit that this idea has crossed my mind. Since the Perk trade, Rondo has seemed disinterested more often.  It's happened before, but it's possible that it has something to do with it.

Disillusionment can be tough and some people don't handle it well.

He'll be fine as the season goes on. I'm looking forward to see him in the playoffs, that's when it'll matter what he's doing or not doing for that matter.

But it's a bit concerning if a trade can affect him this much if he can't put it all back together, particularly if you have him as a building block of the future. But considering that it was his best friend from all told, quite understandable for the time being.

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« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2011, 02:34:51 PM »

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Someone said in another topic about Rondo that his game against Golden State (supposedly a good one) didn't count cause they're a sucky team. Now, I'm reading in this topic he's lazy against bad teams?

Lol, like I always say, it seems to depend on who you ask.  ::)
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Re: Is Rondos lack of effort due to the trading of Perk?
« Reply #28 on: March 07, 2011, 02:59:13 PM »

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