Am i the only one who hates the way Rondo plays defense?

[EJPLAYA]

No. I've said from day one he was overrated on d. Maybe the better word is an underperformer on d, but he does create problems many times due to his poor defensive habits.

[Birdbrain]

  I just compared his Opponent Production stats vs the other starting point guards in the league. Rondo's first in the league in lowest eFG% allowed and fewest assists and rebounds allowed. He's second in lowest PER allowed and 4th in turnovers forced per 48 minutes.

  I went to hoopdata to see the average production for point guards who have played 20+ games and 25+ minutes a game. Listed below are what Rondo allows per48 vs what the average starting pg produces (in parenthesis):

Points 17.9 (21)
eFG% .435 (.483)
Reb 3.7 (4.9)
Ast 8.0 (10.0)
TO 4.5 (3.6)
PER 12.6 (17.0)

  He also has the best defensive rating of any pg among the league leaders on basketballreference.

Thanks for the facts.  Nothing like a bad game to blow things of proportion.

[Chris]

  I just compared his Opponent Production stats vs the other starting point guards in the league. Rondo's first in the league in lowest eFG% allowed and fewest assists and rebounds allowed. He's second in lowest PER allowed and 4th in turnovers forced per 48 minutes.

  I went to hoopdata to see the average production for point guards who have played 20+ games and 25+ minutes a game. Listed below are what Rondo allows per48 vs what the average starting pg produces (in parenthesis):

Points 17.9 (21)
eFG% .435 (.483)
Reb 3.7 (4.9)
Ast 8.0 (10.0)
TO 4.5 (3.6)
PER 12.6 (17.0)

  He also has the best defensive rating of any pg among the league leaders on basketballreference.

To be fair, he also has something most other PG's don't have...KG.

But your point is legit.  The numbers bear out that he is a heck of a defender.  However, that doesn't change the fact that he could be significantly better if he consistently dug in, and didn't get caught on picks so easily. 

He could go from arguably the best defensive PG in the league (which is not saying much), to being one of the best perimeter defenders in the history of the league. 

Now, part of this is not his fault.  When he consistently plays 38-42 minutes per game, without a reliable backup, you can't expect him to consistently go 100 mph on both ends of the floor.  Its just not possible.  And I really hope with the signing of Arroyo (and West hopefully returning), Doc can cut those minutes so he can go harder when he is out there.  But still, it is frustrating to watch when you know how dominating he can be when he is locked in.

  How many of those best perimeter defenders in history had to play when they couldn't put their hands on their opponents?

While thats a good point, we see Rondo be absolutely dominating at times on defense, while playing within the rules.  So, that is not what is stopping him.  He just does not put the effort (and may not be able to, playing so many minutes) to keep up that pace game in and game out.  

[BballTim]

  I just compared his Opponent Production stats vs the other starting point guards in the league. Rondo's first in the league in lowest eFG% allowed and fewest assists and rebounds allowed. He's second in lowest PER allowed and 4th in turnovers forced per 48 minutes.

  I went to hoopdata to see the average production for point guards who have played 20+ games and 25+ minutes a game. Listed below are what Rondo allows per48 vs what the average starting pg produces (in parenthesis):

Points 17.9 (21)
eFG% .435 (.483)
Reb 3.7 (4.9)
Ast 8.0 (10.0)
TO 4.5 (3.6)
PER 12.6 (17.0)

  He also has the best defensive rating of any pg among the league leaders on basketballreference.

To be fair, he also has something most other PG's don't have...KG.

But your point is legit.  The numbers bear out that he is a heck of a defender.  However, that doesn't change the fact that he could be significantly better if he consistently dug in, and didn't get caught on picks so easily. 

He could go from arguably the best defensive PG in the league (which is not saying much), to being one of the best perimeter defenders in the history of the league. 

Now, part of this is not his fault.  When he consistently plays 38-42 minutes per game, without a reliable backup, you can't expect him to consistently go 100 mph on both ends of the floor.  Its just not possible.  And I really hope with the signing of Arroyo (and West hopefully returning), Doc can cut those minutes so he can go harder when he is out there.  But still, it is frustrating to watch when you know how dominating he can be when he is locked in.

  How many of those best perimeter defenders in history had to play when they couldn't put their hands on their opponents?

While thats a good point, we see Rondo be absolutely dominating at times on defense, while playing within the rules.  So, that is not what is stopping him.  He just does not put the effort (and may not be able to, playing so many minutes) to keep up that pace game in and game out.  

  He plays big minutes, he's a big part of our offense and he has to stay out of foul trouble. Plus it wouldn't be surprising if his plantar fasciatis was bothering him from time to time. Perk didn't always look great the year he had it. Not saying he never coasts, but that certainly doesn't separate him from the rest of the big four.

[looseball]

I for one can't stand Rondo when he does this. Nice to take the D behind you for granted, but he got torched by Rose when KG was out and let's scrubs like Fisher get into the lane for floaters and easy jumpers.

He's quick and long enough to keep his man in front of him and make his job hard, so do that. I know he likes to assist-hunt, but stop looking to rack up steals too.

But it's the steals that get you voted onto the all-defensive team.

[BballTim]

I for one can't stand Rondo when he does this. Nice to take the D behind you for granted, but he got torched by Rose when KG was out and let's scrubs like Fisher get into the lane for floaters and easy jumpers.

He's quick and long enough to keep his man in front of him and make his job hard, so do that. I know he likes to assist-hunt, but stop looking to rack up steals too.

But it's the steals that get you voted onto the all-defensive team.

  Is that what gets KG and Howard voted onto the all-defensive team, or did they get voted onto it by blocking shots?

[mgent]

I for one can't stand Rondo when he does this. Nice to take the D behind you for granted, but he got torched by Rose when KG was out and let's scrubs like Fisher get into the lane for floaters and easy jumpers.

He's quick and long enough to keep his man in front of him and make his job hard, so do that. I know he likes to assist-hunt, but stop looking to rack up steals too.

But it's the steals that get you voted onto the all-defensive team.

  Is that what gets KG and Howard voted onto the all-defensive team, or did they get voted onto it by blocking shots?

There might be a case to be made about Chris Paul.