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Re: Jeff Green Is Len Bias Reincarnated.
« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2011, 06:44:13 PM »

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Jeff Green is about 25 percent of the player that Len Bias was. Lern Bias was a game changer. Jeff Green backs up Paul Pierce.
Yeah, right!  Len Bias changed the game for the Boston Celtics for 20 years!  There have been lots of high potential gifted athletes picked early in the  first round  who never did anything in the NBA (Case in point, Sam Bowie).  Sad as it is to say, Len Bias has won the top spot in that list.  He never even played one game.  How does that make him better than Green?
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Re: Jeff Green Is Len Bias Reincarnated.
« Reply #31 on: March 05, 2011, 07:22:39 PM »

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Obviously i dont think the OP's trynna say Green will be one of the greatest of all time, but he's saying he can do what Len Bias would've done for those celtics which is extend their basketball lives.

Re: Jeff Green Is Len Bias Reincarnated.
« Reply #32 on: March 05, 2011, 07:25:06 PM »

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Obviously i dont think the OP's trynna say Green will be one of the greatest of all time, but he's saying he can do what Len Bias would've done for those celtics which is extend their basketball lives. "Reincarnated" kinda insinuates someting else and thats the word thats got everyone jumpin off. It should be "Green is playing the role that Len Bias would have"

Re: Jeff Green Is Len Bias Reincarnated.
« Reply #33 on: March 05, 2011, 07:40:08 PM »

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I know this thread means no harm but it doesn't seem right to me.  Len Bias and Green have nothing to do with each other besides the fact they attended the same high school and both should have / do play for the Cs.  It just seems to be in poor taste to me. 

Would people write the same thing about a SG who reminded them of Reggie Lewis?  If they did, I would say that was inappropriate too.  Sorry.

Re: Jeff Green Is Len Bias Reincarnated.
« Reply #34 on: March 05, 2011, 07:43:55 PM »

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Jeff Green is about 25 percent of the player that Len Bias was. Lern Bias was a game changer. Jeff Green backs up Paul Pierce.
Yeah, right!  Len Bias changed the game for the Boston Celtics for 20 years!  There have been lots of high potential gifted athletes picked early in the  first round  who never did anything in the NBA (Case in point, Sam Bowie).  Sad as it is to say, Len Bias has won the top spot in that list.  He never even played one game.  How does that make him better than Green?

How can I even respond to this? The point is that Len Bias was on track to be one of the best players in the NBA. Jeff Green isn't and never will be and it is a joke to compare the potential of the two.

Re: Jeff Green Is Len Bias Reincarnated.
« Reply #35 on: March 05, 2011, 08:03:47 PM »

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woah, I just found out Jeff's middle name is lynn. Jeffery Lynn Green

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Green_%28basketball%29

hmmm   :o

Re: Jeff Green Is Len Bias Reincarnated.
« Reply #36 on: March 05, 2011, 08:04:26 PM »

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Jeff Green is about 25 percent of the player that Len Bias was. Lern Bias was a game changer. Jeff Green backs up Paul Pierce.
Yeah, right!  Len Bias changed the game for the Boston Celtics for 20 years!  There have been lots of high potential gifted athletes picked early in the  first round  who never did anything in the NBA (Case in point, Sam Bowie).  Sad as it is to say, Len Bias has won the top spot in that list.  He never even played one game.  How does that make him better than Green?

I love Jeff on the Green and was very much for the trade because of him. He and RR and possibly AB to a lesser extent together may be our bridge to the future. He's long, versatile offensively (sweet stroke, can run the floor and finish adroitly and sometimes powerfully)and has the physical tools (length, strength, speed and BBIQ to eventually become a premier perimeter defender.

All that being said, Jeff Green may be an eventual all-star, but Lenny Bias was a generational player. If Green is the Zakim Bridge to the future, Lenny Bias was the Golden Gate Bridge.

Lenny Bias' death did impact Celtics basketball for 20 years. His presence alone would have either prolonged the careers of most if not all of the original Big 3 for 5 or 6 years, or maintained their market value for trades for younger pieces. The dynasty would have been perpetuated, barring injury (or death) of course for many years under Red's crafty hand.

No M.L. Carr, No Pitino, no Ron Mercer and perhaps you could argue no PP, who slipped to 10, but Red may have finagled that pick.

I say "Red", because Red probably would have still been at the forefront of the franchise. First Lenny's and then Reggie's deaths and the consequent writing on the wall decline because of the tragedies took their toll, and Red admittedly lost his taste for the big-time managerial duties. Bias had a personal relationship with Lenny Bias because of Red's hoop camps in D.C..His death devastated Red both on a personal and professional level.

Lenny Bias' death, aside from being the single saddest sports tragedy I have experienced in over 50 years of watching sports (Tony C was second)profoundly impacted Celtics basketball for well over a decade and perhaps beyond.

Re: Jeff Green Is Len Bias Reincarnated.
« Reply #37 on: March 05, 2011, 08:12:53 PM »

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I can see comparing their high school or college games, their style, their body type...but I can not see comparing their potential.  One still has potential.  The other does not.  I remember my shock and horror when I heard about Len Bias' death.  It really hit me hard.  However, I don't think it is fair to hold Green up again some imaginary standard that "might have been" Len Bias, and find Green lacking.
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Re: Jeff Green Is Len Bias Reincarnated.
« Reply #38 on: March 05, 2011, 09:13:43 PM »

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I can see comparing their high school or college games, their style, their body type...but I can not see comparing their potential.  One still has potential.  The other does not.  I remember my shock and horror when I heard about Len Bias' death.  It really hit me hard.  However, I don't think it is fair to hold Green up again some imaginary standard that "might have been" Len Bias, and find Green lacking.

I couldn't agree more.  These comparisons are out of line and in poor taste.  Imagine if DA made such a comparison in the media. He would get skewered.   And deservedly so.
 

Re: Jeff Green Is Len Bias Reincarnated.
« Reply #39 on: March 05, 2011, 11:46:15 PM »

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TP for the OP, good thread idea, and great post.

I agree we can't compare Jeff to Len Bias, it's unfair for Jeff as some of you have posted. But I don't see how this is disrespectful for the memory of Bias, and I don't see it as a negative thing.

Almost 25 years after Len's death, we still feel it like somebody owes the Celtic nation something big. And it's true, I'd change a lot of things in the world that are more important than basketball, but I was 12 when it happened, and today I still think to myself, 'how big could have it been with Len Bias and Reggie Lewis for the Celtics?'.

TP's all around, if Len and Reggie's families are reading this thread I'm sure they won't be feeling disrespected. There's no way for them of getting their beloved ones back, but the fact that today Celtic fans still miss Len and Reggie is amazing. It's called Celtic pride, and I love it.

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Re: Jeff Green Is Len Bias Reincarnated.
« Reply #40 on: March 06, 2011, 12:59:25 AM »

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TP for the OP, good thread idea, and great post.

I agree we can't compare Jeff to Len Bias, it's unfair for Jeff as some of you have posted. But I don't see how this is disrespectful for the memory of Bias, and I don't see it as a negative thing.

Almost 25 years after Len's death, we still feel it like somebody owes the Celtic nation something big. And it's true, I'd change a lot of things in the world that are more important than basketball, but I was 12 when it happened, and today I still think to myself, 'how big could have it been with Len Bias and Reggie Lewis for the Celtics?'.

TP's all around, if Len and Reggie's families are reading this thread I'm sure they won't be feeling disrespected. There's no way for them of getting their beloved ones back, but the fact that today Celtic fans still miss Len and Reggie is amazing. It's called Celtic pride, and I love it.


 50th Tp to you aporel. Thank you for making that point.

 This was never in any way meant to disrespect the great Len Bias.

 You said it perfect "we still feel like someones owes Celtic nation something big"

 And that's what it is.

 To me it just feels like this is what was supposed to happen.

 Jeff is in no way as good as Len was.

 What I care about is that we have a 6'8" young athletic player. Who can guard three positions and spell relief for multiple positions for an aging HOF Team.

 Same as Len Bias would have done.

 And to me it just feels right that we have this similar type player, for the first time in 25 years, to go with the team of aging HOF for the first time since Bird and Co. left the stage.

 Oh and don't you think Danny had similar thoughts. Not about Reincarnation. But how Green could tae the load off the Vets. I know I do.

Re: Jeff Green Is Len Bias Reincarnated.
« Reply #41 on: March 06, 2011, 01:15:06 AM »

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Re: Jeff Green Is Len Bias Reincarnated.
« Reply #42 on: March 06, 2011, 03:14:38 AM »

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Re: Jeff Green Is Len Bias Reincarnated.
« Reply #43 on: March 06, 2011, 03:24:51 AM »

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Re: Jeff Green Is Len Bias Reincarnated.
« Reply #44 on: March 06, 2011, 04:04:47 AM »

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Green: 6'9", 235 lbs. '07 Big East Player of the Year, 5th overall pick in 2007 NBA Draft.
College AVG (3 years): 13 PPG, 6 RPG, 3 APG
1st Team All-Rookie

L.Bias: 6'8", 210 lbs. '86 ACC Player of the Year, 2nd overall pick in 1986 NBA Draft.
College AVG (4 years): 16 PPG, 5 RPG, 1APG