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Rip Hamilton destined to be bought out
« on: February 26, 2011, 12:26:18 PM »

Offline footey

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That's just my opinion, based on Woj's article this morning:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=ArIeo2ET.R6Fy37wHTyKvn45nYcB?slug=aw-hamiltonpistons022611

I would be totally shocked if he was not bought out, and available, very soon. However, not sure I would want him on my team, kind of using Manny tactics, it seems to me.

Re: Rip Hamilton destined to be bought out
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2011, 12:29:14 PM »

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another posibility that gives me goosebump

A second unit of

Delonte, Rip, Green, BBD and Kristic is probably better than half the league

a third unit of

Bradley, Wafer, Murphy, JO and A towel can still beat 5 or 6 teams in the league

MAN its almost like dreaming awake
If that happens DAnny IS a Super genious

Rip, Murphy and Powe and this team = No.18,19,20
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Re: Rip Hamilton destined to be bought out
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2011, 12:31:30 PM »

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I think a suspension is more likely than a buyout.  If he wouldn't take $18 million, I think there's little chance Detroit will budge.

Of course, it's better for us if he isn't bought out, since Woj says he's looking to join Chicago.


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Re: Rip Hamilton destined to be bought out
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2011, 12:32:08 PM »

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Assuming Shaq and Dwest come back healthy, the Cs would have one heck of a 2nd unit if they could sign Rip:

Dwest, Rip, Green, BBD, Krystic (slotting Shaq in as starter).

As a starting lineup, that would be a ~.500 team in the East.
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Re: Rip Hamilton destined to be bought out
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2011, 12:32:44 PM »

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another posibility that gives me goosebump

A second unit of

Delonte, Rip, Green, BBD and Kristic is probably better than half the league

a third unit of

Bradley, Wafer, Murphy, JO and A towel can still beat 5 or 6 teams in the league

MAN its almost like dreaming awake
If that happens DAnny IS a Super genious

Rip, Murphy and Powe and this team = No.18,19,20

You beat me to it, Goosebumps.
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Re: Rip Hamilton destined to be bought out
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2011, 12:33:36 PM »

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What gives you the impression he will be bought out?  He already refused an $18m (out of $25) buyout that would also have allowed him to go to the team of his choice.

But I guess something has to give in DET.  I'm thinking the coach will be fired or resign.


Re: Rip Hamilton destined to be bought out
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2011, 12:36:45 PM »

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Absolutely nothing in that article suggests he'll be bought out.

If anything, it suggests he won't be, since he turned down a deal that would have paid him $18 million out of the $25 million owed him.

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Re: Rip Hamilton destined to be bought out
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2011, 12:38:57 PM »

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What gives you the impression he will be bought out?  He already refused an $18m (out of $25) buyout that would also have allowed him to go to the team of his choice.

But I guess something has to give in DET.  I'm thinking the coach will be fired or resign.



He rejected $18 mil?  Wow!  He wasn't confident that he could make $7 mil in 2 years of NBA action?
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Re: Rip Hamilton destined to be bought out
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2011, 12:40:50 PM »

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another posibility that gives me goosebump

A second unit of

Delonte, Rip, Green, BBD and Kristic is probably better than half the league

a third unit of

Bradley, Wafer, Murphy, JO and A towel can still beat 5 or 6 teams in the league

MAN its almost like dreaming awake
If that happens DAnny IS a Super genious

Rip, Murphy and Powe and this team = No.18,19,20

You beat me to it, Goosebumps.
TP.

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Re: Rip Hamilton destined to be bought out
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2011, 12:42:58 PM »

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What gives you the impression he will be bought out?  He already refused an $18m (out of $25) buyout that would also have allowed him to go to the team of his choice.

But I guess something has to give in DET.  I'm thinking the coach will be fired or resign.



He rejected $18 mil?  Wow!  He wasn't confident that he could make $7 mil in 2 years of NBA action?

It's still $7M.  Maybe Rip is holding out for a fatter buyout?  I don't know.
But I do like to daydream ;)
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Re: Rip Hamilton destined to be bought out
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2011, 12:43:25 PM »

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What gives you the impression he will be bought out?  He already refused an $18m (out of $25) buyout that would also have allowed him to go to the team of his choice.

But I guess something has to give in DET.  I'm thinking the coach will be fired or resign.



He rejected $18 mil?  Wow!  He wasn't confident that he could make $7 mil in 2 years of NBA action?

wow, it's pretty tough to turn down 18 million to just leave. No way he gets bought out if that's the case. Total lack of proffesionalism from both the coach and players in detroit right now. I would suspend all of them without pay until they honor their deals and suck it up.

Re: Rip Hamilton destined to be bought out
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2011, 12:48:20 PM »

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I think a suspension is more likely than a buyout.  

Of course, it's better for us if he isn't bought out, since Woj says he's looking to join Chicago.

Roy, I have a question and agree with both statements.

1. Hamilton should be suspended. What he did sounds like rank insubordination to me. What does the CBA allow in terms of suspension by a team and partial salary forfeiture?

Detroit and Dumars should take a stand. Maybe they are hoping Kuester resigns in the wake of all this and it's an easy out for them. Personally, I suspend and fine Hamilton as an example to the younguns. I've lost respect for Dumars here.

2. I agree that he goes to Chicago, if he is bought out. He will immediately be the starter there with a decent chance at a ring this year and for the next few. Here he's Ray's sub.

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« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2011, 12:50:07 PM »

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What gives you the impression he will be bought out?  He already refused an $18m (out of $25) buyout that would also have allowed him to go to the team of his choice.

But I guess something has to give in DET.  I'm thinking the coach will be fired or resign.



He rejected $18 mil?  Wow!  He wasn't confident that he could make $7 mil in 2 years of NBA action?

wow, it's pretty tough to turn down 18 million to just leave. No way he gets bought out if that's the case. Total lack of proffesionalism from both the coach and players in detroit right now. I would suspend all of them without pay until they honor their deals and suck it up.

I expect Dumars to ask for Kuester's resignation after tonight, and suspensions/fines for each of the players involved in the protest.

I wonder if Dumars might wait until after March 1 to release guys like Wilcox and McGrady, who are expiring contracts, and likely won't be back with the club next year. It might damage Dumars' standing around the league with player agents, but it would send a pretty strong message.
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Re: Rip Hamilton destined to be bought out
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2011, 12:53:39 PM »

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What gives you the impression he will be bought out?  He already refused an $18m (out of $25) buyout that would also have allowed him to go to the team of his choice.

But I guess something has to give in DET.  I'm thinking the coach will be fired or resign.



He rejected $18 mil?  Wow!  He wasn't confident that he could make $7 mil in 2 years of NBA action?

wow, it's pretty tough to turn down 18 million to just leave. No way he gets bought out if that's the case. Total lack of proffesionalism from both the coach and players in detroit right now. I would suspend all of them without pay until they honor their deals and suck it up.

I expect Dumars to ask for Kuester's resignation after tonight, and suspensions/fines for each of the players involved in the protest.

I wonder if Dumars might wait until after March 1 to release guys like Wilcox and McGrady, who are expiring contracts, and likely won't be back with the club next year. It might damage Dumars' standing around the league with player agents, but it would send a pretty strong message.

I think those would be excellent moves for Dumars. He has to set a standard that players can't stage revolts against coaches or organizations, they get paid very well to play basketball and should respect the game.

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« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2011, 12:57:14 PM »

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I think a suspension is more likely than a buyout.  

Of course, it's better for us if he isn't bought out, since Woj says he's looking to join Chicago.

Roy, I have a question and agree with both statements.

1. Hamilton should be suspended. What he did sounds like rank insubordination to me. What does the CBA allow in terms of suspension by a team and partial salary forfeiture?

Detroit and Dumars should take a stand. Maybe they are hoping Kuester resigns in the wake of all this and it's an easy out for them. Personally, I suspend and fine Hamilton as an example to the younguns. I've lost respect for Dumars here.

2. I agree that he goes to Chicago, if he is bought out. He will immediately be the starter there with a decent chance at a ring this year and for the next few. Here he's Ray's sub.

Exactly.  Why would they reward him with a buyout?

And even if he does, he's not coming here.  That's what people need to realize.  Even before we got Jeff Green, the best he could've hoped for would be to backup Pierce and Allen.  Now, he'd be stuck playing the 10-15 mpg that Ray doesn't play.  There's zero chance he's going to do that when he could start in Chicago. 

And people need to realize that the same logic extends to pretty much every other position except center.  Few good players are going to want to come play the 10-15 mpg (and let's face it, it's probably even less than that as our 1-4 starters will likely play 35-40 mpg in the playoffs, this notion that any of them are going to play 32 mpg when Doc routinely plays them more than that in the regular season is silly).