Can Anyone Explain the Semih / Luke Trade?

[Rondo2287]

Tommy is on WEEI and said that from what he has seen and heard, Semih is incredibly homesick and was likely to go back to turkey next year for more money.

[Chris]

Tommy is on WEEI and said that from what he has seen and heard, Semih is incredibly homesick and was likely to go back to turkey next year for more money.

That would make sense.  I think he also has a sick relative over there who he visited over the All Star Break. 

[Chris]

Benefits of the trade:

1.  We got a pretty good second rounder;

2.  We opened up two roster spots;

3.  We saved money under the luxury tax, as we won't have to pay tax on Semih or Luke anymore.

  We only save money on the Semih deal if we don't replace him though, right?

I believe that you save a decent amount this way.  By trade Semih, we don't have to pay luxury tax on any of his salary (even what was already paid to him), since it is calculated by salary on the books at the end of the season, however, if we cut him, we would have owed him the rest of the salary for the season, plus the luxury tax for it.

Plus, I believe (correct me if I am wrong Roy) that if we sign a veteran FA now, we would only pay luxury tax on their pro-rated salary.

[Change]

Benefits of the trade:

1.  We got a pretty good second rounder;

2.  We opened up two roster spots;

3.  We saved money under the luxury tax, as we won't have to pay tax on Semih or Luke anymore.

Point 3 is the only logical explanation.

Semih is no bum. He provided depth at an ever thinning frontline. Ainge practically gave away Semih for Free. At least get something in return for this year's run. Not some irrelevant pick 2years from now. This move is purely saving the Celtics $$$$$. Celtics have the 4th highest payroll in the NBA.

[Chris]

Benefits of the trade:

1.  We got a pretty good second rounder;

2.  We opened up two roster spots;

3.  We saved money under the luxury tax, as we won't have to pay tax on Semih or Luke anymore.

Point 3 is the only logical explanation.

Semih is no bum. He provided depth at an ever thinning frontline. Ainge practically gave away Semih for Free. At least get something in return for this year's run. Not some irrelevant pick 2years from now. This move is purely saving the Celtics $$$$$. Celtics have the 4th highest payroll in the NBA.

Well, I would imagine Danny is not going to leave the spot open.  I don't think its a stretch to think that Danny feels he can get a better player by signing a free agent than he could in a trade for Semih.

[Rondo2287]

Benefits of the trade:

1.  We got a pretty good second rounder;

2.  We opened up two roster spots;

3.  We saved money under the luxury tax, as we won't have to pay tax on Semih or Luke anymore.

Point 3 is the only logical explanation.

Semih is no bum. He provided depth at an ever thinning frontline. Ainge practically gave away Semih for Free. At least get something in return for this year's run. Not some irrelevant pick 2years from now. This move is purely saving the Celtics $$$$$. Celtics have the 4th highest payroll in the NBA.

Ainge also said on the radio last night that a key factor was Semih's health and that he didnt think that Semih would be able to contribute when we needed him to going forward. So their are several logical explanations including 1 and 2 above

[Chief]

Can a team just waive the physical process? There is no way Semih, Perk, or Marquis could pass a physical right now.

[Chris]

Can a team just waive the physical process? There is no way Semih, Perk, or Marquis could pass a physical right now.

They can waive it (I am sure they would for Marquis, but wouldn't for Perk and Semih).  But to pass the physical, it doesn't mean they have to be completely healthy.  It just means they can't find anything beyond the reported ailments.

So, OKC won't block the trade because the physical found a sprained MCL, because they knew about that before the trade.  However, if the physical found that the MCL was actually torn, that would be a different story. 

[Stu]

There's also the side benefit that with a trade, you get to control which team the player goes to.  Not sure if any of the contenders or playoff teams would have been interested in Semih if we just waived him, but we know he won't hurt us with Cleveland.

[Stu]

Semih has had a shoulder injury all year and will need surgery in the off-season. Danny said he didn't know if Semih would make it through the rest of the year.

So he traded him and harongody(who has no value) for the Cavs 2nd rd pick, but it is the 1st pick (most likely)in the second round so it is really a late 1st round pick .

This also opened up a few roster spots, which we will use to pick up a healthy big man for the rest of the year .

The reports I have read say the pick we got from Cleveland is a 2013 2nd round pick, not this year.

[Jon]

While I could see giving away Harangody to save money and potentially pick up a random buyout, the fact that Danny gave away Semih when we could've used him this season leads me to believe that Danny already has verbal confirmation from an even better big man that he will be bought out and that he will come to Boston. 

Otherwise, I can't imagine giving away Erden even if he was leaving next year.  At the very least he would've been useful last night. 

[Fan from VT]

Probably 2 things:

1. anytime you can turn two 50 somthing picks into one 30 something, it's probably a good move. Let's be real, Semih kind of actually sucked. He made a good impression because he sucked less than expected, but he was a major net negative this year. For the future? We'll see.

2. If you can open up roster spaces by getting a free second round draft pick, why not; and Luke/Semih were definitely the guys who would be cut for a buyout candidate.

[csfansince60s]

Maybe the Cavs wouldn't relieve us of the Gody $$$ + tax without us giving up Semih, and considering he may be cooked for this year, Ainge probably pulled the trigger and got the added benefit of saving more $$$ than just Gody

[Marcus13]

Idc about Luke, but this team needs Erden more than ever.

Critical mistake that will cost us in the playoffs, if it was just to dump salary, we could have waited until next year to dump him before all our guys come off the books anyway

[droponov]

I don't think that Chris Johnson guy is significantly worse than Erden. Now or in the future. He isn't as familiar with the team and plays as Semih was, obviously, which is a big disadvantage, but I believe they're the same level of player.