Alvin Gentry has "lost respect" for KG

[NoraG1]

Once there was this guy I was fencing. We were using sabers and they can be a little whippy.  So the guy hits me pretty much harder than I've ever been hit right on the arm where there is the least padding. The very next action it happens again. He's a good fencer. What are the odds of that happening accidentally two times in a row? I wait for an opening. I put my whole arm, back, and wrist into it and it whips all the way around his chest and back and he keels over. The next hit he hits my arm again very intentionally, but not as hard as the first two times.  There weren't any problems after that.

This whole "What did I do act" by KG is getting old. Sometimes players aren't trying to cause problems but they aren't trying to be careful either.  You will maintain a safety zone and use safe tactics near me or I guarantee I will not be safe with you.


Accidents are contagious. I can have them too.  It might be a blessing for KG if he gets ejected in these cases.

What angers me is KG to an intentional shot to the head/throat by Pietrus and he was not ejected. If that does not warrant ejection nothing should have warranted ejection.

[NoraG1]

KG has been hit in the head in at least 3 of last 4 games. Why is there no outrage about this. Apparently because so many find him 'dirty' it is alright. This kind of thing is what gets on my nerves. Any other player can do these things and it is hardly even mentioned. I bet if everyone observed one individual player as much as everyone observes KG they could find ALOT that that they do that is not exactly clean.

[Bahku]

What KG did was a "hand-check" and had no force behind it to do intentional damage or cause pain ... they happen a thousand times during a game and some, unfortunately, happen in that area of the anatomy. If he had truly been hit as hard as he feigned, there's no way he would have been able to hop up to confront KG. The fact that Gentry is using this to throw more negative detritus in the direction of KG, shows how small he is, and how little he knows of this very physical game called "basketball".

I mean, were his eyes closed during the rest of the game, when Pietrus blatantly threw an elbow into KG's throat? I'm here to say that to do that can easily kill someone, and he should have been immediately tossed. An inadvertant hand-check to the groin, in comparison, is a joke. Sorry, Alvin, but in the midst of this absurd whining, many of us have lost respect for you!



"Dirty Basketball" - See: Bill Laimbeer, Bruce Bowen, Ron Artest, Derek Fisher, etc..

[Eja117]

Once there was this guy I was fencing. We were using sabers and they can be a little whippy.  So the guy hits me pretty much harder than I've ever been hit right on the arm where there is the least padding. The very next action it happens again. He's a good fencer. What are the odds of that happening accidentally two times in a row? I wait for an opening. I put my whole arm, back, and wrist into it and it whips all the way around his chest and back and he keels over. The next hit he hits my arm again very intentionally, but not as hard as the first two times.  There weren't any problems after that.

This whole "What did I do act" by KG is getting old. Sometimes players aren't trying to cause problems but they aren't trying to be careful either.  You will maintain a safety zone and use safe tactics near me or I guarantee I will not be safe with you.


Accidents are contagious. I can have them too.  It might be a blessing for KG if he gets ejected in these cases.

What angers me is KG to an intentional shot to the head/throat by Pietrus and he was not ejected. If that does not warrant ejection nothing should have warranted ejection.

This is the second time I am seeing something about "Oh well if he's intentionally doing it and trying to hurt people that's different"

No it's not.

To quote Clint Eastwood right before he blew away a sniffling Gene Hackman who was saying he didn't deserve it "Deserving has nothing to do with it."

What if North Korea accidentally nuked San Francisco next week? Oops. Accident. Sorry. Here let us pay reparations or something.

Nice try. I don't think so.

If my teammate or myself get "accidentally" injured or "unintentionally" injured by you than I will just have to "unintentionally" and "accidentally" make a play that could result in various serious injury for you.

Like I said.  KG is way too good of a player for this "What? What did I do?"  Here. Let me show you what you did.  

Yes. It's true that Gentry is being hypocritical.  We shouldn't return the favor.

[Eja117]

Seriously. What do you think would happen if Lakers were "accidentally" getting involved with dangerous plays with himself or his teammates?

Exactly.

If Pietrus threw an elbow then KG needs to throw two at him.  Not give problems to Frye and then be like "What? What's the problem here?"

[NoraG1]

Seriously. What do you think would happen if Lakers were "accidentally" getting involved with dangerous plays with himself or his teammates?

Exactly.

If Pietrus threw an elbow then KG needs to throw two at him.  Not give problems to Frye and then be like "What? What's the problem here?"

Give me a break! You would then be whining about KG throwing those same elbows. KG can't win!!!!Point is this Gentry guy got all out of shape about what KG did even though he says nothing about what Pietrus did which was far worse then anything KG did to Frye. Put other players under the microscope as much as KG and they don't come out clean either.

[vinnie]

KG almost lost it again tonight and I am worried he could get a suspension for pushing the ref. He needs to rein it in a little

[Tai]

Once there was this guy I was fencing. We were using sabers and they can be a little whippy.  So the guy hits me pretty much harder than I've ever been hit right on the arm where there is the least padding. The very next action it happens again. He's a good fencer. What are the odds of that happening accidentally two times in a row? I wait for an opening. I put my whole arm, back, and wrist into it and it whips all the way around his chest and back and he keels over. The next hit he hits my arm again very intentionally, but not as hard as the first two times.  There weren't any problems after that.

This whole "What did I do act" by KG is getting old. Sometimes players aren't trying to cause problems but they aren't trying to be careful either.  You will maintain a safety zone and use safe tactics near me or I guarantee I will not be safe with you.


Accidents are contagious. I can have them too.  It might be a blessing for KG if he gets ejected in these cases.

What angers me is KG to an intentional shot to the head/throat by Pietrus and he was not ejected. If that does not warrant ejection nothing should have warranted ejection.

This is the second time I am seeing something about "Oh well if he's intentionally doing it and trying to hurt people that's different"

No it's not.

To quote Clint Eastwood right before he blew away a sniffling Gene Hackman who was saying he didn't deserve it "Deserving has nothing to do with it."

What if North Korea accidentally nuked San Francisco next week? Oops. Accident. Sorry. Here let us pay reparations or something.

Nice try. I don't think so.

If my teammate or myself get "accidentally" injured or "unintentionally" injured by you than I will just have to "unintentionally" and "accidentally" make a play that could result in various serious injury for you.

Like I said.  KG is way too good of a player for this "What? What did I do?"  Here. Let me show you what you did.  

Yes. It's true that Gentry is being hypocritical.  We shouldn't return the favor.

Then we'll take both cases at face value. Doesn't make a difference, then.

You say we shouldn't condemn Pietrus anymore than KG has been because what Pietrus did has a better argument for being "intentional"? Fine. It still happened, and I find it laughable that Gentry would have the nerve to cry about KG. At best, it's gamesmanship by Gentry. Whatever.

[steve]

Once there was this guy I was fencing. We were using sabers and they can be a little whippy.  So the guy hits me pretty much harder than I've ever been hit right on the arm where there is the least padding. The very next action it happens again. He's a good fencer. What are the odds of that happening accidentally two times in a row? I wait for an opening. I put my whole arm, back, and wrist into it and it whips all the way around his chest and back and he keels over. The next hit he hits my arm again very intentionally, but not as hard as the first two times.  There weren't any problems after that.

This whole "What did I do act" by KG is getting old. Sometimes players aren't trying to cause problems but they aren't trying to be careful either.  You will maintain a safety zone and use safe tactics near me or I guarantee I will not be safe with you.


Accidents are contagious. I can have them too.  It might be a blessing for KG if he gets ejected in these cases.

What angers me is KG to an intentional shot to the head/throat by Pietrus and he was not ejected. If that does not warrant ejection nothing should have warranted ejection.

This is the second time I am seeing something about "Oh well if he's intentionally doing it and trying to hurt people that's different"

No it's not.

To quote Clint Eastwood right before he blew away a sniffling Gene Hackman who was saying he didn't deserve it "Deserving has nothing to do with it."

What if North Korea accidentally nuked San Francisco next week? Oops. Accident. Sorry. Here let us pay reparations or something.

Nice try. I don't think so.

If my teammate or myself get "accidentally" injured or "unintentionally" injured by you than I will just have to "unintentionally" and "accidentally" make a play that could result in various serious injury for you.

Like I said.  KG is way too good of a player for this "What? What did I do?"  Here. Let me show you what you did.  

Yes. It's true that Gentry is being hypocritical.  We shouldn't return the favor.

Sure, if KG ran up to Channing Frye in the middle of the mall and smacked him in the testicles, then yes it wouldn't matter if KG's intention was only to hand check him, because it was a basketball move and Frye was unaware they were playing basketball, just like San Fran would have been unaware that N. Korea was in a war with them.   

But Frye was not in a mall, he was playing basketball vs KG, and in the game of basketball injuries occur, accidentally and sometimes purposley.  As an evolved species we look at the intent of the person who caused the injury... if we deduct that the person had NO intent to injure then we must chalk it up to the contact nature of sport and it's inherant risk of injury. 

[GreenFaith1819]

lol....so now KG can add PHX to the list of haters.

So, thus far it's Detroit, with Villanueva-Gate.

Lakers hate him because of Ballboy-Gate.

Last year, it was Bogut-Gate, with his tie-up with Andrew in the regular season game.

He upset Andre Blatch last year with his comments, too...so we have Dre-Gate with the Wiz.

After watching the replays of the Dallas game, he even had a tie-up with one of the refs??

Ref-gate. Now that isn't good. This was a case of KG getting a little TOO heated.

And now? Frye-Gate.

At the rate KG is going, he'll have half the league despise him by the time he retires.

From watching KG play over the years, I know this man loves to get in player's heads. Physical injury? I don't think he meant to do this to Frye.

KG is happy to demoralize his opponent, but he doesn't go out to physically put someone out.

I think this Frye thing was just an accident.

[twinbree]

Sigh. Take a number Alvin. I wonder if Tyson Chandler will be next.

I think it's time for our PR guys to do some damage control. Perception is everything and the rate at which the legend of KG's villainy is growing cannot be good for him or the team. Refs will give him the short end of the stick, players will start to cheapshot him, then his teammates will get sucked into the drama standing up for him, we'll stockpile even more Ts, lose momentum in close games, give up free points etc. 

KG especially but the whole team team really needs to figure out how to positively channel their intensity on the court. Perk did it a couple of years ago when the team talked to him about hurting them with the Ts and didn't get a T for months. He needs to share whatever he did then. We want to win a championship and these melees we've been having routinely are the kind that bite you in the playoffs.

[Celtics18]

It's a fine line as far as I'm concerned.  KG's intensity has always been what's given him an edge throughout his career, but I feel like he's dangerously close to letting it get the better of him right now. 

I thought that his little incident last night with Barea, Chandler, and then the ref kind of took him out of the rest of that game. 

The trick for him is to not let his emotion and intensity get to the point where he starts crossing the line, and then he has to rein it back in. 

I don't really care how anyone perceives Garnett. I love his energy for this team.  I'm only concerned about it getting to the point where he could potentially hurt the them. 

Somewhat ironically, I think Perk might be the one guy who could give him a successful constructive talking to about this issue. 

[Eja117]

Once there was this guy I was fencing. We were using sabers and they can be a little whippy.  So the guy hits me pretty much harder than I've ever been hit right on the arm where there is the least padding. The very next action it happens again. He's a good fencer. What are the odds of that happening accidentally two times in a row? I wait for an opening. I put my whole arm, back, and wrist into it and it whips all the way around his chest and back and he keels over. The next hit he hits my arm again very intentionally, but not as hard as the first two times.  There weren't any problems after that.

This whole "What did I do act" by KG is getting old. Sometimes players aren't trying to cause problems but they aren't trying to be careful either.  You will maintain a safety zone and use safe tactics near me or I guarantee I will not be safe with you.


Accidents are contagious. I can have them too.  It might be a blessing for KG if he gets ejected in these cases.

What angers me is KG to an intentional shot to the head/throat by Pietrus and he was not ejected. If that does not warrant ejection nothing should have warranted ejection.

This is the second time I am seeing something about "Oh well if he's intentionally doing it and trying to hurt people that's different"

No it's not.

To quote Clint Eastwood right before he blew away a sniffling Gene Hackman who was saying he didn't deserve it "Deserving has nothing to do with it."

What if North Korea accidentally nuked San Francisco next week? Oops. Accident. Sorry. Here let us pay reparations or something.

Nice try. I don't think so.

If my teammate or myself get "accidentally" injured or "unintentionally" injured by you than I will just have to "unintentionally" and "accidentally" make a play that could result in various serious injury for you.

Like I said.  KG is way too good of a player for this "What? What did I do?"  Here. Let me show you what you did.  

Yes. It's true that Gentry is being hypocritical.  We shouldn't return the favor.

Then we'll take both cases at face value. Doesn't make a difference, then.

You say we shouldn't condemn Pietrus anymore than KG has been because what Pietrus did has a better argument for being "intentional"? Fine. It still happened, and I find it laughable that Gentry would have the nerve to cry about KG. At best, it's gamesmanship by Gentry. Whatever.

Who said we shouldn't condemn Pietrus? If Pietrus throws an elbow at KG I hope KG does throw an elbow or two at Pietrus

[Eja117]

Once there was this guy I was fencing. We were using sabers and they can be a little whippy.  So the guy hits me pretty much harder than I've ever been hit right on the arm where there is the least padding. The very next action it happens again. He's a good fencer. What are the odds of that happening accidentally two times in a row? I wait for an opening. I put my whole arm, back, and wrist into it and it whips all the way around his chest and back and he keels over. The next hit he hits my arm again very intentionally, but not as hard as the first two times.  There weren't any problems after that.

This whole "What did I do act" by KG is getting old. Sometimes players aren't trying to cause problems but they aren't trying to be careful either.  You will maintain a safety zone and use safe tactics near me or I guarantee I will not be safe with you.


Accidents are contagious. I can have them too.  It might be a blessing for KG if he gets ejected in these cases.

What angers me is KG to an intentional shot to the head/throat by Pietrus and he was not ejected. If that does not warrant ejection nothing should have warranted ejection.

This is the second time I am seeing something about "Oh well if he's intentionally doing it and trying to hurt people that's different"

No it's not.

To quote Clint Eastwood right before he blew away a sniffling Gene Hackman who was saying he didn't deserve it "Deserving has nothing to do with it."

What if North Korea accidentally nuked San Francisco next week? Oops. Accident. Sorry. Here let us pay reparations or something.

Nice try. I don't think so.

If my teammate or myself get "accidentally" injured or "unintentionally" injured by you than I will just have to "unintentionally" and "accidentally" make a play that could result in various serious injury for you.

Like I said.  KG is way too good of a player for this "What? What did I do?"  Here. Let me show you what you did.  

Yes. It's true that Gentry is being hypocritical.  We shouldn't return the favor.

Sure, if KG ran up to Channing Frye in the middle of the mall and smacked him in the testicles, then yes it wouldn't matter if KG's intention was only to hand check him, because it was a basketball move and Frye was unaware they were playing basketball, just like San Fran would have been unaware that N. Korea was in a war with them.   

But Frye was not in a mall, he was playing basketball vs KG, and in the game of basketball injuries occur, accidentally and sometimes purposley.  As an evolved species we look at the intent of the person who caused the injury... if we deduct that the person had NO intent to injure then we must chalk it up to the contact nature of sport and it's inherant risk of injury. 

I don't believe that someone who intends to play the game safely and nonrecklessly will have lots of unintentional accidents.  Even if you do hurt me accidentally....well...that sucked for me....and now I have something that's gonna suck for you. Don't accidents suck?

[ejk3489]

No fine or suspension for KG, but one of his fouls in the Dallas game got upgrated to a flagrant.

Source:
http://espn.go.com/blog/BostonCeltics/post/_/id/4680396/garnett-avoids-fine-upgraded-to-flagrant