If Shaq (gave effort), Z, AV, Dwest, and Mo was still playing for them, I bet that they would be about .500 team. They wouldn't contend w/o LeBron but it would not be all that bad, especially since the new system doesn't revolve around one player. If LeBron was the only missing piece from last season I know they could be at the least 8th seed! "KarmaGate" goes to show how big of an ego boost the Cavs bad playing is for LeBron. His ego is bigger than his play/will to win... I hope it bites him in his butt. Some of these comments mimic LeBrons thoughts... he wins alone while carrying his teammates on his back. Reason why I like the Celtics (aside from Shaq), they realize it takes a TEAM... of course some players are more vital than others but you can't win with ONE player!