Buyouts Are Starting

[billysan]

Just noticed Peja is getting bought out by the Raptors. I would love to add him to our roster as a bench wing player ahead of Von Wafer.

There will be others soon including possibly Troy Murphy.

I think Danny needs to be agressive with available upgrades and not wait to see who is going to be healthy. These guys are all nothing but rentals till we see what next season brings anyway. We would have the inside track on nearly any of them this season, but not necessarily next.

[LooseCannon]

These guys are all nothing but rentals till we see what next season brings anyway.

The Celtics whose contracts expire after this season are Kendrick Perkins, Glen Davis, Marquis Daniels, Delonte West, and Von Wafer.

At this point, I think the player most likely to get cut in favor of an upgrade is Delonte West, since it is possible that he may re-injure himself or fail to work his way back into the rotation.  If West plays sub-par upon his return to active duty, that will be an interesting debate on here between people who want to cut him in favor of a short term upgrade and people who want to give him the rest of the regular season to try and play through any problems.

[Surferdad]

These guys are all nothing but rentals till we see what next season brings anyway.

The Celtics whose contracts expire after this season are Kendrick Perkins, Glen Davis, Marquis Daniels, Delonte West, and Von Wafer.

At this point, I think the player most likely to get cut in favor of an upgrade is Delonte West, since it is possible that he may re-injure himself or fail to work his way back into the rotation.  If West plays sub-par upon his return to active duty, that will be an interesting debate on here between people who want to cut him in favor of a short term upgrade and people who want to give him the rest of the regular season to try and play through any problems.

It'll be between West and Wafer, though I'd love to keep both.  However, a lot will depend on our center spot status, i.e. how Perk looks, Shaq's nagging injuries and whether JO can reasonably expect to come back in a month.  If 2 of those 3 are still iszsues, I would wager than Ainge goes out and gets a big body.  The wing spot is manageable.  In any case, I don't want Peja.  He doesn't fit with this defensive-minded team.  "KG will not stand for it", as Doc says.

[The DarkPassenger]

Peja is rumored to be headed to Dallas. I wouldn't want him anyway.

[billysan]

Peja is rumored to be headed to Dallas. I wouldn't want him anyway.

I am pretty sure Peja will sign with Dallas. This further illustrates my point, knowing a guy is going to likely be bought out and that he is a still somewhat skilled veteran player who can upgrade your roster for small dollars, the Mavericks went after him aggressively.

He may not be a superstar now(never said he was) and we can make comparisons all day but the point is, how many teams can use a shooter of his skill level off the bench for a playoff run in place of an end of the bench guy who hasnt cracked the rotation anyway.

I think there are likely to be a few guys like him in the next few weeks becoming available. I understand the team needs issue and the chemistry issue that must be considered. I am interested to see if Danny will move on one of these guys. I think we could easliy make the case that a player will be bought out that can help us for this season.

[Eddie20]

Rip buyout? I would love to see him on the C's, even if it means cutting Wafer.

Speaking of Hamilton, who hasn't played for the Pistons since Jan. 10 while the trade talks swirled, a buyout might be his best chance of getting out of Detroit. As of Wednesday night, when Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov backed out of the Anthony trade, Pistons president Joe Dumars had not yet engaged other potential suitors for Hamilton. Heading into what some executives are beginning to fear will be a hard-cap system, few -- if any -- teams will be willing to take on $21.5 million in guaranteed money over the next two seasons for a player who will turn 33 next month. The problem for Dumars is that a buyout will have to be an ownership decision, and the Pistons are in the midst of an ownership change. Going from saving $17 million in the deal that would've sent Hamilton to New Jersey to eating close to that amount in a buyout will be tough for any prospective owner to swallow.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/14584064/postups-nene-impatient-with-nuggets-focus-on-melo

[pearljammer10]

Pejas going to Dallas. I dont think the Celts are going to be signing any buyouts. That would mean cutting a player and I dont think the Celtics are going to go down that road with every players contract now guaranteed.

[the_Bird]

Peja = Michael Finley II, an aging guy that can still put the ball in the rim from outside but who is so horrible, horrible defensively at this point in their career that you simply cannot put them on the floor.

Rip Hamilton, he's not the player he once was but he could still be a very solid rotation player.  Not sure he's as desperately needed as we might have though early in the year, since Quis has mostly kept himself injury-free all season (knock on wood). 

Still, who to unload to bring in someone?  Wafer's playing better, but is probably still the most expendable once Delonte's back.  Next up would probably be 'Gody, but it's hard to see them just cutting him for a couple-month rental on Rip. 

And, I don't see much in trades; Nate would be expendable with Delonte back (and with Rip and Quis still in the rotation), but it would either have to be a trade to a team with cap space/a trade exemption or a 2-1 deal.  BBD, I know a lot of people are hating on but he's versatile, helps back up both the 4 and the 5, and can still help us win some games.  He's flawed, but more useful to us than to most other teams.

I don't know...  I think they try and see if Delonte's going to be good to go for the rest of the season, and if so Wafer's still the most expendable.

Sure wouldn't unload him to sign Peja, though, or to bring back 'Sheed.  I would absolutely to bring in Rip, but unless he's willing to leave a lot of money on the table for Detroit, it's real hard to see how they'll end up buying him out.

Why would Detroit do a buyout, anyway?  If there's no basketball next year because of a lockout, they aren't going to be paying him in '11 - '12 anyway.

[LarryForThree]

I think Wafer and Gody are the two obvious players that would be dropped.

I wouldn't want Peja. I think this thread is showing is that the C's don't have a whole lot of room to just pick up players.

Therefor, the C's should be very careful and chose ONE player that makes the most sense and not just the first player whose somewhat attractive.

[ScoobyDoo]

I think if we brought anyone in as an upgrade at off guard that DWest would be moved to official back up point duties with Nate in thw wings. Wafer would get waived.

If it was Rip we got ( total long shot, but let's just say) then you come off the bench with DWest and Rip. Or you could switch it up with Nate at point with West or Rip at off.

A guard rotation of
Rip and Ray with Nate and Dwest ( bradley in the wings) would be sick.

I disagree that Gody would be waived. he has much better potential, long term, to be a good steady role player, than Von Wafer does. This being said, I appreciate the effort and improvement I've seen out of Wafer this far this season. He has grown.

I would still keep Gody over hima t this point though.

[CoachBo]

Disagree entirely. Harangody is a vastly below average defender. Doc and Danny aren't going to keep below average defenders for long. I don't expect him on this roster next season.

[Chris]

Disagree entirely. Harangody is a vastly below average defender. Doc and Danny aren't going to keep below average defenders for long. I don't expect him on this roster next season.

I disagree.  I think he is improving defensively, and is an average PF defender (obviously, it depends on the particular matchup).

I think he has a great chance to be on this roster next season, mainly because Davis will likely be gone, and they could use him as depth off the bench.

[ScoobyDoo]

I think both Wafer and Gody are subpar defenders at this point. Though, as Chris mentioned, I think Goday has shown improvement. For that matter, so has Von Wafer , which is what should happen when you're on a team that preaches D I guess.

But for me, I would take Gody over Wafer, without a moment's hesitation. Harangody is a rare "energy player" with a nose for the ball who isn't afriad to get dirty. That's not super easy to find.

He'll probably never be a great defender, perhaps not even a "good defender" - but he definately is a guy who will help you win games in the right situations -
* If you don't put a body on him, he'll get 12 boards on you.
* if you don't guard him, he'll put up twenty on you
*No matter what, he'll be in your grill every second he's on the floor.

I hope he's with the Celts for a long, long time in a 9th or 10th man role.

he also seems like the ultimate team guy - great motor, unselfish, dirty work guy who will do anything you ask him to. I like him.   

[ScoobyDoo]

I liked Leon Powe for the same reasons.

[greenpride32]

Disagree entirely. Harangody is a vastly below average defender. Doc and Danny aren't going to keep below average defenders for long. I don't expect him on this roster next season.

I disagree.  I think he is improving defensively, and is an average PF defender (obviously, it depends on the particular matchup).

I think he has a great chance to be on this roster next season, mainly because Davis will likely be gone, and they could use him as depth off the bench.

Ryan Anderson lit up Luke to the tune of 14 of his 16 total points in the ORL game last Monday in about a 4-5 minute stretch.  That was 4 three pointers and an inside hoop.  All the 3's were very good looks.  It might just be that Luke isn't accustomed to defending perimter bigs but still; bottom line he got torched.