When do Celtics fans get Realistic for the future?

[GreenEnvy]

Id rather trade Wafer for Howard. With the way the Magic are trading away their bigs i saw they go for it.

Are you serious. What is wrong with you people. Don't you remember how well Wafer played for 2 full games?

I'd say maybe for Howard (extend & trade), JRich, and a future first.

Then Danny has to give serious thought to pulling the trigger.

[indeedproceed]

It's all nice to dream of all these future trades/deals to get (insert star player here) to play for the C's so the Celtics don't miss a beat when the Big Three are done.

Realistic fans knew the window of opportunity was small and WE DID GET A CHAMPIONSHIP. But we all knew after it was all over (retirements, decline in play due to age/injuries) that the Celtics were going to be reoccurring lotto team for a few years.

With that said, Does anyone think we can get Kevin Love for Harangody and a 2011 second round pick this year?

  Those would be the same realistic fans that knew that this core's team's window closed well before the playoffs started last year?

Turnabout is fair play. All indications last year were that KG was done, and everyone who said that (including me) is now considered "wrong" and had a giant "W" branded into their forehead by a red-hot coathanger.

Well i just did myself...I assume you guys did it too.

According to whom besides a bunch of posters,and some overly dramatic NBA analysts that KG was done last year?I never heard that thru anyone with real knowledge of what is going on with players.Personally i never felt he was done.

Who besides a bunch of posters and overly dramatic NBA analysts could've watched KG in Jan-Feb and assumed he would ever be 'back'?

I watched those games, nearly all of them. He wasn't exploding, he wasn't rebounding, he wasn't even scoring efficiently, and he was routinely getting blown-by by anyone with the semblance of a handle and a quick first step.

He was 33 yrs old, and recoveries at that age typically don't add up to the regaining of explosiveness or agility.

Some people kept on saying KG was still recovering, but that was at best an informed hope. Turns out it was correct, but that doesn't mean that it was just a foregone conclusion that KG would completely recover.  

[GranTur]

Sports are about fantasy, loyalty, hope, and fun. Only one team in each major sport wins it all...all other fans have to cling to those four things to enjoy themselves.

That's what it's about!

GO Cs!

[ACF]

Does anyone think we can get Kevin Love for Harangody and a 2011 second round pick this year?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jon3q6me5Sg

When do Celtics fans get Realistic for the future?

After Rondo, Dwight Howard, Blake Griffin and Kevin Durant get done hanging Banner 29.

What he said.

[BballTim]

It's all nice to dream of all these future trades/deals to get (insert star player here) to play for the C's so the Celtics don't miss a beat when the Big Three are done.

Realistic fans knew the window of opportunity was small and WE DID GET A CHAMPIONSHIP. But we all knew after it was all over (retirements, decline in play due to age/injuries) that the Celtics were going to be reoccurring lotto team for a few years.

With that said, Does anyone think we can get Kevin Love for Harangody and a 2011 second round pick this year?

  Those would be the same realistic fans that knew that this core's team's window closed well before the playoffs started last year?

Turnabout is fair play. All indications last year were that KG was done, and everyone who said that (including me) is now considered "wrong" and had a giant "W" branded into their forehead by a red-hot coathanger.

Well i just did myself...I assume you guys did it too.

According to whom besides a bunch of posters,and some overly dramatic NBA analysts that KG was done last year?I never heard that thru anyone with real knowledge of what is going on with players.Personally i never felt he was done.

Who besides a bunch of posters and overly dramatic NBA analysts could've watched KG in Jan-Feb and assumed he would ever be 'back'?

  Who besides a bunch of posters and overly dramatic NBA analysts assumed he wouldn't? I heard Danny talking about expecting KG to play better after he's had time to fully recover from knee surgery multiple times and I'm pretty sure I heard Doc say the same thing.

[Junkyard Dawg]

Some people kept on saying KG was still recovering, but that was at best an informed hope. Turns out it was correct, but that doesn't mean that it was just a foregone conclusion that KG would completely recover.

I agree, I was thinking the same thing for much of last year.

But I remember one game, I think it was a Nat'l broadcast, the announcers were talking about how many opposing coaches believed KG was still recovering, and that he would be back the next season.  This gave me hope because it was former players and guys who had been around the game for so long, guys who presumably knew what they were talking about.

[Celtics4ever]

Why worry about the future?  Its a given we will have to rebuild someday.   We are not going simply reload.  I am more worried about winning the title this year than the future.  This thread has a namby pamby or sky is falling tone.  Pitiful.

[wiley]

It's all nice to dream of all these future trades/deals to get (insert star player here) to play for the C's so the Celtics don't miss a beat when the Big Three are done.

Realistic fans knew the window of opportunity was small and WE DID GET A CHAMPIONSHIP. But we all knew after it was all over (retirements, decline in play due to age/injuries) that the Celtics were going to be reoccurring lotto team for a few years.

With that said, Does anyone think we can get Kevin Love for Harangody and a 2011 second round pick this year?

  Those would be the same realistic fans that knew that this core's team's window closed well before the playoffs started last year?

Turnabout is fair play. All indications last year were that KG was done, and everyone who said that (including me) is now considered "wrong" and had a giant "W" branded into their forehead by a red-hot coathanger.

Well i just did myself...I assume you guys did it too.

According to whom besides a bunch of posters,and some overly dramatic NBA analysts that KG was done last year?I never heard that thru anyone with real knowledge of what is going on with players.Personally i never felt he was done.

Who besides a bunch of posters and overly dramatic NBA analysts could've watched KG in Jan-Feb and assumed he would ever be 'back'?

  Who besides a bunch of posters and overly dramatic NBA analysts assumed he wouldn't? I heard Danny talking about expecting KG to play better after he's had time to fully recover from knee surgery multiple times and I'm pretty sure I heard Doc say the same thing.

There were 3 groups talking about KG and whether he would get back to his old self:

1.  Yes he would, just needed to fully recover.
2.  No he wouldn't.  The knee was fried and he was too old to heal or the injury too insidious.
3.  The knee was fine as evidenced by an occasional dunk, KG had just lost it due to age.  He'd played too many minutes and was cooked forever.

Many people argued from the perspective of group 3, ragging on KG's personality in the process.  Made my blood boil, and I consistently argued that there was no possible way that a player with KG's history of energy and intensity would suddenly, after a long, injury-induced layoff (in other words rest), suddenly be sapped of all inner strength and simply have turned lame during his time on the bench.  Rolled my eyes at group 3.

What I didn't and feel couldn't know was whether the knee would allow him to get back to his old self.  Knees tend to suck.  Sometimes they come back, other times not so much....

[Roy H.]

I think there are widely varying views of what is "realistic", but I'm in the group that assumes that we're going to have to go through some growing pains when the "big three" leave. 

Obviously, if we can land Howard, that can probably be avoided, but otherwise, I think there are going to be at least a couple, and maybe more, years in the lottery.  The goal of Danny will be to ensure that this doesn't turn into a repeat of the original Big Three era and its aftermath, where we fluctuated between mediocre and terrible for 20 years. 

[Bahku]

I think they learned a lot of lessons through the "lean years" of the post-'86/Big Three era, and I trust that Danny, et al, are and have been already scoping out and prepping for what is to come when the present Big Three retire. I don't expect to be an immediate championship contender, but I also don't expect it to take another 20 years to get back to that point.

[arctic 3.0]

It's all nice to dream of all these future trades/deals to get (insert star player here) to play for the C's so the Celtics don't miss a beat when the Big Three are done.

Realistic fans knew the window of opportunity was small and WE DID GET A CHAMPIONSHIP. But we all knew after it was all over (retirements, decline in play due to age/injuries) that the Celtics were going to be reoccurring lotto team for a few years.

With that said, Does anyone think we can get Kevin Love for Harangody and a 2011 second round pick this year?

on what level does this make sense?
i've come up with a few unrealistic trade proposals but i couldn't for the life of me top this one.

[Roy H.]

It's all nice to dream of all these future trades/deals to get (insert star player here) to play for the C's so the Celtics don't miss a beat when the Big Three are done.

Realistic fans knew the window of opportunity was small and WE DID GET A CHAMPIONSHIP. But we all knew after it was all over (retirements, decline in play due to age/injuries) that the Celtics were going to be reoccurring lotto team for a few years.

With that said, Does anyone think we can get Kevin Love for Harangody and a 2011 second round pick this year?

on what level does this make sense?
i've come up with a few unrealistic trade proposals but i couldn't for the life of me top this one.

I think it was sarcasm, poking fun at some of the unrealistic trade ideas that get thrown around in our forums.  I think that's the basis for his rant.

[indeedproceed]

It's all nice to dream of all these future trades/deals to get (insert star player here) to play for the C's so the Celtics don't miss a beat when the Big Three are done.

Realistic fans knew the window of opportunity was small and WE DID GET A CHAMPIONSHIP. But we all knew after it was all over (retirements, decline in play due to age/injuries) that the Celtics were going to be reoccurring lotto team for a few years.

With that said, Does anyone think we can get Kevin Love for Harangody and a 2011 second round pick this year?

  Those would be the same realistic fans that knew that this core's team's window closed well before the playoffs started last year?

Turnabout is fair play. All indications last year were that KG was done, and everyone who said that (including me) is now considered "wrong" and had a giant "W" branded into their forehead by a red-hot coathanger.

Well i just did myself...I assume you guys did it too.

According to whom besides a bunch of posters,and some overly dramatic NBA analysts that KG was done last year?I never heard that thru anyone with real knowledge of what is going on with players.Personally i never felt he was done.

Who besides a bunch of posters and overly dramatic NBA analysts could've watched KG in Jan-Feb and assumed he would ever be 'back'?

  Who besides a bunch of posters and overly dramatic NBA analysts assumed he wouldn't? I heard Danny talking about expecting KG to play better after he's had time to fully recover from knee surgery multiple times and I'm pretty sure I heard Doc say the same thing.

Yeah but they were some of the only people saying that by late feb...then when March rolled around and we were still losing games, and KG was moving better, but only a little better, I stopped believing them.

[PosImpos]

It's all nice to dream of all these future trades/deals to get (insert star player here) to play for the C's so the Celtics don't miss a beat when the Big Three are done.

Realistic fans knew the window of opportunity was small and WE DID GET A CHAMPIONSHIP. But we all knew after it was all over (retirements, decline in play due to age/injuries) that the Celtics were going to be reoccurring lotto team for a few years.

With that said, Does anyone think we can get Kevin Love for Harangody and a 2011 second round pick this year?

on what level does this make sense?
i've come up with a few unrealistic trade proposals but i couldn't for the life of me top this one.

the fact that you thought the OP might be serious with that Harangody trade proposal simply proves his point.

there are so many absurdly homer trade proposals on this forum all the time that it's difficult to discern between people who are being serious and those who are being sarcastic.

[arctic 3.0]

It's all nice to dream of all these future trades/deals to get (insert star player here) to play for the C's so the Celtics don't miss a beat when the Big Three are done.

Realistic fans knew the window of opportunity was small and WE DID GET A CHAMPIONSHIP. But we all knew after it was all over (retirements, decline in play due to age/injuries) that the Celtics were going to be reoccurring lotto team for a few years.

With that said, Does anyone think we can get Kevin Love for Harangody and a 2011 second round pick this year?

on what level does this make sense?
i've come up with a few unrealistic trade proposals but i couldn't for the life of me top this one.

the fact that you thought the OP might be serious with that Harangody trade proposal simply proves his point.

there are so many absurdly homer trade proposals on this forum all the time that it's difficult to discern between people who are being serious and those who are being sarcastic.

hard to discern sarcasm... we need a sarcasm emoticon