Who's gonna blink first? (Love vs. Griffin)

[Eja117]

Just to point out Zach Randolph's stats are very very similar to B Griffin's, and arguably slightly better.

And he doesn't have to steal all his rebounds from DeAndre Jordan. He's competing with Marc Gasol

I'm guessing Blake isn't a totally indifferent defender the way Randolph is.  Also, I'm guessing Blake is a much better passer.  Randolph has probably almost never come close to 10 assists.

They average the same number of steals. Randolph averages .3 blocks per game to Griffin's .6.  Griffin is unquestionably the better passer by more than double. But Griffin gives up an extra TO a game. He also gives up an more fouls and unlike Griffin when Randolph gets fouled he actually makes his free throw.

yes I guess in fantasy they have the same value this year
(thus far)
but in real life
come on eja you know theres no comparisson if you have seen him enough of both playing

Actually I kinda think Blake's value probably comes from the likely fact that the entire defense is trying to stop Blake and not at all Zach. Also he's a rookie, whereas Zach is a seasoned vet.  But Zach is totally underrated and has been for years.

Zach ewasnt overrated in his years on Portland
he ruins his career by himslef becoming a prima donna
the scoring and rebounding hability always there but he never
worries about improving other areas of his game
and become a black hole and black holes are not liked in wining teams.
Not called the LeBrons.

His assists per game are definitely on the very low end. He gets more than D Howard. He's the exact same as Al Jefferson.  But he's one of only 5 20/10 guys in the league. And he doesn't exactly have great teammates to pass to. Shouldn't a 20/10 be a black hole? I mean if not a 20/10 guy then who should be?

[Edgar]

Just to point out Zach Randolph's stats are very very similar to B Griffin's, and arguably slightly better.

And he doesn't have to steal all his rebounds from DeAndre Jordan. He's competing with Marc Gasol

I'm guessing Blake isn't a totally indifferent defender the way Randolph is.  Also, I'm guessing Blake is a much better passer.  Randolph has probably almost never come close to 10 assists.

They average the same number of steals. Randolph averages .3 blocks per game to Griffin's .6.  Griffin is unquestionably the better passer by more than double. But Griffin gives up an extra TO a game. He also gives up an more fouls and unlike Griffin when Randolph gets fouled he actually makes his free throw.

yes I guess in fantasy they have the same value this year
(thus far)
but in real life
come on eja you know theres no comparisson if you have seen him enough of both playing

Actually I kinda think Blake's value probably comes from the likely fact that the entire defense is trying to stop Blake and not at all Zach. Also he's a rookie, whereas Zach is a seasoned vet.  But Zach is totally underrated and has been for years.

Zach ewasnt overrated in his years on Portland
he ruins his career by himslef becoming a prima donna
the scoring and rebounding hability always there but he never
worries about improving other areas of his game
and become a black hole and black holes are not liked in wining teams.
Not called the LeBrons.

His assists per game are definitely on the very low end. He gets more than D Howard. He's the exact same as Al Jefferson.  But he's one of only 5 20/10 guys in the league. And he doesn't exactly have great teammates to pass to. Shouldn't a 20/10 be a black hole? I mean if not a 20/10 guy then who should be?

20 points in how many shots, around 17
opposite PFs score like that on him every other day

[Eja117]

Just to point out Zach Randolph's stats are very very similar to B Griffin's, and arguably slightly better.

And he doesn't have to steal all his rebounds from DeAndre Jordan. He's competing with Marc Gasol

I'm guessing Blake isn't a totally indifferent defender the way Randolph is.  Also, I'm guessing Blake is a much better passer.  Randolph has probably almost never come close to 10 assists.

They average the same number of steals. Randolph averages .3 blocks per game to Griffin's .6.  Griffin is unquestionably the better passer by more than double. But Griffin gives up an extra TO a game. He also gives up an more fouls and unlike Griffin when Randolph gets fouled he actually makes his free throw.

yes I guess in fantasy they have the same value this year
(thus far)
but in real life
come on eja you know theres no comparisson if you have seen him enough of both playing

Actually I kinda think Blake's value probably comes from the likely fact that the entire defense is trying to stop Blake and not at all Zach. Also he's a rookie, whereas Zach is a seasoned vet.  But Zach is totally underrated and has been for years.

Zach ewasnt overrated in his years on Portland
he ruins his career by himslef becoming a prima donna
the scoring and rebounding hability always there but he never
worries about improving other areas of his game
and become a black hole and black holes are not liked in wining teams.
Not called the LeBrons.

His assists per game are definitely on the very low end. He gets more than D Howard. He's the exact same as Al Jefferson.  But he's one of only 5 20/10 guys in the league. And he doesn't exactly have great teammates to pass to. Shouldn't a 20/10 be a black hole? I mean if not a 20/10 guy then who should be?

20 points in how many shots?

49% fg and 72ft%.   That's not too bad.  I mean D Howard is like, what...59% fg 43% ft?

[Edgar]

59% is much better than 49 on paint players

not to mention the 17 millions he charge for those un productive 20-10
last time I checked Orlando was a winning team and LA was on a streak.
Cant remember last time memphis went into one.

[Eja117]

59% is much better than 49 on paint players

not to mention the 17 millions he charge for those un productive 20-10
last time I checked Orlando was a winning team and LA was on a streak.
Cant remember last time memphis went into one.

Nobody is calling the guy a champion or anything.  Although people seem to think Kevin Love is great (as the title of the thread implies), which he is, but Minnesota can't buy a win either.

[xmuscularghandix]

Which one will make the playoffs first?

[mgent]

59% is much better than 49 on paint players

not to mention the 17 millions he charge for those un productive 20-10
last time I checked Orlando was a winning team and LA was on a streak.
Cant remember last time memphis went into one.

He isn't always a paint player though compared to Dwight who doesn't shoot if he's not dunking or right at the rim.  49% ain't that bad.

[barefacedmonk]

Which one will make the playoffs first?

Clippers if I had to pick based on their respective rosters.

[Who]

Which one will make the playoffs first?

Clippers. They have a fair shot at making the playoffs next season.

Wolves are a train wreck. They are years away from making a playoff run.

Much more talent, balanced talent / roster, on the Clippers + Blake Griffin is a much better talent than Kevin Love.

[Edgar]

Which one will make the playoffs first?

Clippers. They have a fair shot at making the playoffs next season.

Wolves are a train wreck. They are years away from making a playoff run.

Much more talent, balanced talent / roster, on the Clippers + Blake Griffin is a much better talent than Kevin Love.

yup and
 healthy or a young pg will be needed
and a factor