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Should the Clippers pursue Melo
« on: January 13, 2011, 08:00:02 PM »

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Simmons posted a piece on ESPN in which he believed Melo should go to the Clippers and be the batman to Blake's robin (or vice versa).  It got me to thinking, would either team make this trade

Clippers get Melo
Nuggets get Gordon, Foye, Gomes, Smith (if he agrees), and 2 firsts

The Nuggets would get an exciting young and very good SG in Gordon, 2 firsts to use as they see fit, and some decent young role players on reasonable contracts.

The Clippers get a true superstar and would have a pretty solid rotation with Kaman, Griffin, Anthony, Davis, Bledsoe, Aminu, Jordan, and Cook
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Re: Should the Clippers pursue Melo
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2011, 08:03:26 PM »

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Simmons posted a piece on ESPN in which he believed Melo should go to the Clippers and be the batman to Blake's robin (or vice versa).  It got me to thinking, would either team make this trade

Clippers get Melo
Nuggets get Gordon, Foye, Gomes, Smith (if he agrees), and 2 firsts

The Nuggets would get an exciting young and very good SG in Gordon, 2 firsts to use as they see fit, and some decent young role players on reasonable contracts.

The Clippers get a true superstar and would have a pretty solid rotation with Kaman, Griffin, Anthony, Davis, Bledsoe, Aminu, Jordan, and Cook

if I am Denver, I  would be looking for  a package of Gordon, Kaman or Jordan, Bledsoe or Aminu and 2 first round picks .

Re: Should the Clippers pursue Melo
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2011, 08:08:17 PM »

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Your trade makes a heck of a lot more sense to me than Simmons proposal, where the Clips would hold on to Gordon.

I think your offer is ahead of New York's best offer, but probably still behind a NJ deal centered around Favors.  The big asset the Clips have is Minnesota's first rounder, which I believe is top-ten protected this year, but unprotected next.


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Re: Should the Clippers pursue Melo
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2011, 08:09:19 PM »

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Simmons posted a piece on ESPN in which he believed Melo should go to the Clippers and be the batman to Blake's robin (or vice versa).  It got me to thinking, would either team make this trade

Clippers get Melo
Nuggets get Gordon, Foye, Gomes, Smith (if he agrees), and 2 firsts

The Nuggets would get an exciting young and very good SG in Gordon, 2 firsts to use as they see fit, and some decent young role players on reasonable contracts.

The Clippers get a true superstar and would have a pretty solid rotation with Kaman, Griffin, Anthony, Davis, Bledsoe, Aminu, Jordan, and Cook

if I am Denver, I  would be looking for  a package of Gordon, Kaman or Jordan, Bledsoe or Aminu and 2 first round picks .
The problem the Clippers have is they don't have any crap big contracts to be added for dollars.  Kaman could certainly be swapped in for Foye and Gomes, and you could certainly add Jordan or Bledsoe in for salary instead of Smith, but I don't know if the Clippers are willing to gut the team to get Melo.  Frankly I believe Gordon is better then Favors, though NJ has better draft picks and can take back more salary, and actually think it is a comparable trade.  I have no idea if Melo would actually go to the Clippers, but him and Blake Griffin would be a very strong F combo, especially with Kaman doing the dirty work down low.
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Re: Should the Clippers pursue Melo
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2011, 08:12:30 PM »

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Your trade makes a heck of a lot more sense to me than Simmons proposal, where the Clips would hold on to Gordon.

I think your offer is ahead of New York's best offer, but probably still behind a NJ deal centered around Favors.  The big asset the Clips have is Minnesota's first rounder, which I believe is top-ten protected this year, but unprotected next.
I think the trade I proposed is pretty similar to NJ's offer because Gordon is much better then Favors is right now and still has room to grow (Favors may one day be better but that is a big risk).  Obviously the advantage NJ has is it can take on way more salary because of the contracts it currently has and can put together a better draft pick offer (Golden State is awful this year and it has a lot more in the 2 years to throw at Denver).
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Re: Should the Clippers pursue Melo
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2011, 04:20:36 AM »

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denvers already got a few sg on there team

Re: Should the Clippers pursue Melo
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2011, 04:28:10 AM »

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I don't think Melo would consent to a trade to the Clippers. His comments in the past, he clearly views the Clippers as a second rate franchise that will forever be in the shadow of the LA Lakers.

The reputation of the franchise is terrible. The worst owner in the league. A largely unknown an unaccomplished front office. A young Head Coach who has been heavily criticized.

Wade and LeBron paid no attention to the Clippers in free agency either.

So no, I don't think the Clips should pursue Carmelo. There is no point. He won't agree to an extension.

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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2011, 04:35:05 AM »

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I don't think Melo would consent to a trade to the Clippers. His comments in the past, he clearly views the Clippers as a second rate franchise that will forever be in the shadow of the LA Lakers.

The reputation of the franchise is terrible. The worst owner in the league. A largely unknown an unaccomplished front office. A young Head Coach who has been heavily criticized.

Wade and LeBron paid no attention to the Clippers in free agency either.

So no, I don't think the Clips should pursue Carmelo. There is no point. He won't agree to an extension.

I agree with this ... and I do not see Melo making a move that's not an obvious improvement to his present situation, or that won't put him in real championship contention. The Clippers would not offer that, (at present), the management is a nightmare, and he would never agree to the extension for that big of a question mark.
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Re: Should the Clippers pursue Melo
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2011, 08:07:52 AM »

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Yes!  Stay in the West.  I'm sick of all the stars coming over to the East, making Kobe's life that much easier and making life tougher for the Celtics in the process. >:(
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Re: Should the Clippers pursue Melo
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2011, 09:03:46 AM »

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Is Melo THAT big of an upgrade over Eric Gordon for the Clippers?

Re: Should the Clippers pursue Melo
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2011, 09:09:20 AM »

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I don't think Melo would consent to a trade to the Clippers. His comments in the past, he clearly views the Clippers as a second rate franchise that will forever be in the shadow of the LA Lakers.

The reputation of the franchise is terrible. The worst owner in the league. A largely unknown an unaccomplished front office. A young Head Coach who has been heavily criticized.

Wade and LeBron paid no attention to the Clippers in free agency either.

So no, I don't think the Clips should pursue Carmelo. There is no point. He won't agree to an extension.

I agree with this ... and I do not see Melo making a move that's not an obvious improvement to his present situation, or that won't put him in real championship contention. The Clippers would not offer that, (at present), the management is a nightmare, and he would never agree to the extension for that big of a question mark.
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Re: Should the Clippers pursue Melo
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2011, 09:22:14 AM »

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The Clips would be giving up too much and Melo wouldn't sign an extension.


How good do you think the Clips would have been if they persuaded Pierce to leave Boston? Wade and LeBron were a pipedream because they had this idea in mind for probably more than a year.

Imagine a lineup with Griffin, Gordon, AND Pierce. Throw in his buddy B.Diddy and a healthy Kaman, and that is one formidable starting five.

Then solid guys like Gomes, Bledsoe, Jordan, etc. off the bench....
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« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2011, 09:44:52 AM »

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Yes!  Stay in the West.  I'm sick of all the stars coming over to the East, making Kobe's life that much easier and making life tougher for the Celtics in the process. >:(
I agree...the west seems to be weakening as the season goes.The Mavericks losing Butler for the season,Portland losing Roy for the season,so far the Suns trade is not coming together chemistry wise.I felt they got the worse end of that deal anyhow.At this point the Spurs is there biggest challenge.Hopefully nothing goes wrong in San Antonio the second half of the season.tp

Re: Should the Clippers pursue Melo
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2011, 10:10:40 AM »

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I don't think Melo would consent to a trade to the Clippers. His comments in the past, he clearly views the Clippers as a second rate franchise that will forever be in the shadow of the LA Lakers.

The reputation of the franchise is terrible. The worst owner in the league. A largely unknown an unaccomplished front office. A young Head Coach who has been heavily criticized.

Wade and LeBron paid no attention to the Clippers in free agency either.

So no, I don't think the Clips should pursue Carmelo. There is no point. He won't agree to an extension.

Absolutely correct.

It's clear that 'melo knows where he wants to go, and it's not LA or NJ/Brooklyn.

The only question is, does he lose out in the game of chicken he's playing with Nugg's management as far as the new CBA restricting his future earnings if it ends up that he just walks.

Re: Should the Clippers pursue Melo
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2011, 10:22:55 AM »

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If he would not go to the Nets why would he go to the Clippers, is the same situation only with worse ownership and worse prospects. At least the Nets are getting a new stadium and have shown they want to be a contender. Clippers have not, they will milk Blake G until he leaves (which he will).