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Do The Lakers Miss The Machine?
« on: December 29, 2010, 08:19:35 AM »

Offline Bankshot

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They're just not the same team without Sasha. ;D

I think this is the second time this season they lost 3 in a row. And back to back blowouts? :o  
I don't think they ever did that with Sasha on the team.
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TP for the levity.

They miss him and Luke Walton discussing Kobe's lack of 'trust' in his teammates.  And for your viewing pleasure.  The machines greatest NBA moment to date.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewt_9R-3qes&feature=fvst
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Re: Do The Lakers Miss The Machine?
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2010, 09:36:15 AM »

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They are missing a team fire, especially on defense, and they look slow.  I just wonder how much longer Kobe can blame his team and everyone will act like he is a good leader.

For example this part of an ESPN write up after this game:

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Kobe Bryant lit into the team after the Christmas debacle, telling a room full of reporters how he wasn't going to stand for his team's disinterest and to deliver his message he would "beat it in [his teammates'] heads until it gets through."

It was the type of rhetoric that shaped the stories written by national columnists and the scintillating sound bites that led SportsCenter, but all of Bryant's barking fell on deaf ears.

Did they miss the part where Kobe played badly in all these games?  Or last night where he obviously tried to take over and hogged the ball and completely failed to bring his team back into the game by mostly just jacking up long range shots?  Maybe Kobe should listen to his OWN barking for once and trust his team.  But of course Kobe does no wrong and he has always been the model team mate...  ::)


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Pau Gasol thought the ball should have ended up in his and Andrew Bynum's hands more often.

"We have to take advantage of our size," Gasol said. "That's one of our main strengths of this team and we go away from it, we don't utilize it. It's again, not being smart."

Gasol and Bynum combined for 7-of-12 shooting, which is one less shot attempt than the 13 misses Bryant had in a row from midway through the first quarter until late in the third, the longest empty streak of his career in a single game.

"I just need to put the ball in the [dang] hole when I need to," Bryant said. "It's my responsibility. It's my job and I got to do it."

LOL at that stat on Gasol and Bynum only getting 12 shots and Kobe missing 13 in a row at one point.  And then Kobe says he needed to just make his shots... I think you are missing something Kobe. Maybe you should use what won your team a title last year.

The Spurs game was interesting because the Spurs' stars didn't even play well besides Parker.  And it marks another game where the Lakers got dominated inside, this time by Dejaun Blair. Kobe responds by trying to jack up shots instead of go to his teammates.  I'll be inteested to see when the media starts to rightfully blame Kobe for a lot of this instead of act like his team is letting him down.

Here is what Phil had to say:

"If I was playing, I probably wouldn't pass him the ball the next time," Jackson said, explaining how he would have handled it as a teammate.


Good stuff.  I don't want to jump the gun but we have seen Kobe deteriorating over the last season and this one certainly looks to continue that trend.  I think he is falling off and as he selfishly tries to simply take more of the team on his back as they struggle because of him he will only make it worse.  When he got all up in George Hill's face for boxing him out legally I was so happy to see Hill get up in his face back and not back down from Kobe.  No one is scared of you on San Antonio Kobe. I'm really enjoying these Laker struggles, that is for sure  ;D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-oKNhXvEjg

And of course they T up Hill, who did nothing wrong on the play.
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I'm actually a little sad.  This is starting to resemble 1986 all over again with LA and Magic ducking out the back door and missing Bird's best team. 

So in a weird way I'm rooting for them to right the ship.
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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2010, 09:46:12 AM »

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Yeah, Kobe is shooting his team out of games and then blaming his teammates. LOL
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Thanks for posting that beauty of a play by Ray Allen. I was just watching clips of that game 4 classic last night, coincidentally.

As for LA? lol they are missing something. My guess is that they will get it together. Until someone beats them in a seven game series, they are still the champs.

The only difference is that IF this is their mindset, to just try to plow through the playoffs and blow off the regular season, they'd better hope they can flip the switch. We did it last year.

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Worst thing is he gave himself that nickname.

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at least our team last year, when they lost interest, still got up for the big games against the top teams. The lakers got throttled on xmas by the heat and last night by the spurs, they are bad at the moment.

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at least our team last year, when they lost interest, still got up for the big games against the top teams. The lakers got throttled on xmas by the heat and last night by the spurs, they are bad at the moment.

And what the Celtics did last year was amazing, it was not normal.  I'm not sure the Lakers will be able to do the same thing, especially with the West being much tougher than last year.  They won't have the cakewalk they had last year.  That being said, I think our road is a bit tougher too.
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Worst thing is he gave himself that nickname.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwTDPvXszhw

Hahaha, that was a riot.

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at least our team last year, when they lost interest, still got up for the big games against the top teams. The lakers got throttled on xmas by the heat and last night by the spurs, they are bad at the moment.

Also we didn't have any situation like Kobe blaming his teammates and none of our players were selfishly jacking up shots and ignoring their teammates.  Not saying they can't or won't get things together but it's not the same situation.
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« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2010, 11:18:25 AM »

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Dare I say the Lakers lost their toughness when they lost Sasha. :o

They've played like kitty cats since he was traded.
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Kobe Bryant is currently in his 15th NBA regular season and has the equivalent of nearly 2 and 1/2 more seasons worth of playoff games on his resume.  He may not be as chronologically old as Ray, Paul or KG but he's got just as many if not more miles on him.  The difference is that Kobe still wants to dominate offensively, while the C's old guys are and have been sharing the load.

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« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2010, 11:25:45 AM »

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Kobe Bryant is currently in his 15th NBA regular season and has the equivalent of nearly 2 and 1/2 more seasons worth of playoff games on his resume.  He may not be as chronologically old as Ray, Paul or KG but he's got just as many if not more miles on him.  The difference is that Kobe still wants to dominate offensively, while the C's old guys are and have been sharing the load.

Mike

Too bad Kobe won't allow his teammates to help him.  Gasol was practically begging to be involved. LOL  Kobe is so selfish.
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