Would you trade JO for JJ Redick?

[Eddie20]

I wouldn't.

Redick is a 2 and we already have West there. Unless the plan is completely bench Nate is move West to 1. However, I still don't like it. Plus, it's very unlikely that two contending teams makes a move with each other.

[Finkelskyhook]

The real question should be this: would Orlando trade JJ Redick for JO?

I think you would find that the answer is a big fat NO. At this point, he is worth more than a has-been big man who just came off knee surgery and is yet to make any meaningful contribution to this team.

I agree, and on top of that, trading JO to the magic would eliminate their biggest weakness since their revamping, backup center. No way, let them find a backup to Howard from someone else.

O'Neal would shore up their center position the same way he's shoring up our's.  O'Neal's value will be next season when there's a contract on the line.  Whether he's here or in Orlando he'll be a waste of a roster spot this season.  I'd do the trade in a heartbeat.

[Roy H.]

We've had Semih Erden starting games.  I'm not interested in trading in any of our big men.

Also, I think J.O.'s demise is being prematurely reported.  He was an above-average center last year.  I don't think he's going from that level to that of a scrub in a quarter of a season.

[2short]

Yep.  Semih has proven he can give us minutes at c.  Come playoff time a rotation of shaq, perk and erden with kg and davis is good by me.  Redick I always thought was shorter, someone pointed out to me last year his height.  Would love to get him AND we could use nate to trade for someone else once delonte is healthy.  'Sheed is waiting for playoffs, right?  
course this trade isn't going to happen anyways
Jermaine's trade value is about an all time low now.  Knowing how danny builds guys up he wouldn't trade him until he was on the court looking good.

[hpantazo]

The real question should be this: would Orlando trade JJ Redick for JO?

I think you would find that the answer is a big fat NO. At this point, he is worth more than a has-been big man who just came off knee surgery and is yet to make any meaningful contribution to this team.

I agree, and on top of that, trading JO to the magic would eliminate their biggest weakness since their revamping, backup center. No way, let them find a backup to Howard from someone else.

O'Neal would shore up their center position the same way he's shoring up our's.  O'Neal's value will be next season when there's a contract on the line.  Whether he's here or in Orlando he'll be a waste of a roster spot this season.  I'd do the trade in a heartbeat.

as Roy said, don't count JO out yet. He is too proud a player and too close to some of the guys on this team to mail it in until his contract year. He will be very productive when fully recovered. Our main advantage over the magic, heat, and even LA is our size when healthy. I wouldn't give that up for an additional SG who would play behind Ray, Nate, Dwest, and Daniels.

[Celtics4ever]

I would after seeing the game on Xmas.  Jermaine had worse hands on offense than KP and I didn't think that was possible.  I know its early to write him off but he has always been a something of an under-achiever as I see it so I am not so sure this faith him is well founded.

Trouble is Orlando would not do it.   JJ is better than West I think.  He clearly is a better shooter hands down its not even close.   With Rondo who would you rather have on a spot up jumper?  For me it would be JJ over Delonte and its not even close.

Trouble is we are thin on bigs.   I would offer Erden and West and see if we could make it work with some filler.  However, JJ cannot decline any trades he doesn't like.

[wdleehi]

I would after seeing the game on Xmas.  Jermaine had worse hands on offense than KP and I didn't think that was possible.  I know its early to write him off but he has always been a something of an under-achiever as I see it so I am not so sure this faith him is well founded.

Trouble is Orlando would not do it.   JJ is better than West I think.  He clearly is a better shooter hands down its not even close.   With Rondo who would you rather have on a spot up jumper?  For me it would be JJ over Delonte and its not even close.

Trouble is we are thin on bigs.   I would offer Erden and West and see if we could make it work with some filler.  However, JJ cannot decline any trades he doesn't like.

First game back from a long term injury and we know all that he can offer? 

And don't over look West's value to the 2nd team.  He is not just a spot up shooter.  He is suppose to be the one running the offense when Rondo is out, not Nate or Pierce.  He frees those two up to be scorers when Rondo is out.

[slamtheking]

I would after seeing the game on Xmas.  Jermaine had worse hands on offense than KP and I didn't think that was possible.  I know its early to write him off but he has always been a something of an under-achiever as I see it so I am not so sure this faith him is well founded.

Trouble is Orlando would not do it.   JJ is better than West I think.  He clearly is a better shooter hands down its not even close.   With Rondo who would you rather have on a spot up jumper?  For me it would be JJ over Delonte and its not even close.

Trouble is we are thin on bigs.   I would offer Erden and West and see if we could make it work with some filler.  However, JJ cannot decline any trades he doesn't like.

Erden and West?     seriously? 

I'd be hardpressed to consider sending just one of them for Reddick.  Erden shows too much promise as a back up big man after JO and Shaq are gone and West is better overall than Reddick.  JJ's a better shooter but West is a very tough defender, better ballhandler and passer. 

[KungPoweChicken]

A bench backcourt of West and Redick is far more formidable than Robinson and West.

[slamtheking]

A bench backcourt of West and Redick is far more formidable than Robinson and West.

yes, but a Orlando C combo of Dwight and JO is more formidable than just Dwight.  Don't forget we have Robinson, west, Daniels and Bradley than can back up the 2 spot.  (granted, Bradley is a "break glass only in case of emergency' situation)

[twistedrico]

Yes I would, but Orlando would have to be crazy to make that deal...

[KobeGotRondoD]

yes but no way orlando would

[housecall]

I look at what the team's weaknesses are at the time of a possible trade and just like last season we are a poor rebounding team(presently rank 26th).A healtier JO could probably contribute close to(5)boards a game in a backup role with a block or two here and there.JJ would only strengthen our shooting in instances when he's hot.He goes thru some cold spells like Nate.In the playoffs possessions are at a premium and each rebound grabbed gives us an extra opportunity to score.

[Finkelskyhook]

The real question should be this: would Orlando trade JJ Redick for JO?

I think you would find that the answer is a big fat NO. At this point, he is worth more than a has-been big man who just came off knee surgery and is yet to make any meaningful contribution to this team.

I agree, and on top of that, trading JO to the magic would eliminate their biggest weakness since their revamping, backup center. No way, let them find a backup to Howard from someone else.

O'Neal would shore up their center position the same way he's shoring up our's.  O'Neal's value will be next season when there's a contract on the line.  Whether he's here or in Orlando he'll be a waste of a roster spot this season.  I'd do the trade in a heartbeat.

as Roy said, don't count JO out yet. He is too proud a player and too close to some of the guys on this team to mail it in until his contract year. He will be very productive when fully recovered. Our main advantage over the magic, heat, and even LA is our size when healthy. I wouldn't give that up for an additional SG who would play behind Ray, Nate, Dwest, and Daniels.

The one area where I agree with Roy is that I don't think O'Neal is close to being washed up yet.  Where we differ is that I think he tanks in non-contract years.  I watched him admittedly only a few games last year beyond our's.  He looked last year like he was putting up numbers in his sleep.  He's that talented.  In a lot of ways, talented like Shaq where if he gets on the court he'll put up numbers.  

He's going to put up 10 and 8 next year for somebody.  Maybe better.  

I think O'Neal's demeanor and zest for the game changed after the brawl.  He put up good numbers last season in his sleep.  At no point when I saw him did he ever look like he was busting his butt.  He's that talented.  He can do it going through the motions.....As long as he has something to play for.  He, IMHO, doesn't play for the love of the game...Or for championships.  He has the greatest opportunity for a championship he's ever had on this team...And he's out of shape.  He, IMHO, plays for the money.  

I don't think we'll see any of that this season because he's simply not in shape.  Look at him.  He looks about 30 lbs bigger than last season.  Opposed to Perk, who had a major knee injury...Looks chisled.

Next season will mirror last season for O'Neal.  So if he's not traded, Danny essentially signed him for a 1 year, 11.8m contract.

[wdleehi]

I look at what the team's weaknesses are at the time of a possible trade and just like last season we are a poor rebounding team(presently rank 26th).A healtier JO could probably contribute close to(5)boards a game in a backup role with a block or two here and there.JJ would only strengthen our shooting in instances when he's hot.He goes thru some cold spells like Nate.In the playoffs possessions are at a premium and each rebound grabbed gives us an extra opportunity to score.

The Celtic's are 9th in rebound differential.  (+1.3)

The defensive rebounding is really strong.  The offensive rebounding is weak because the Celtics put emphasis on getting back on defense vs. chasing offensive rebounds.